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morscata12
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Here's the link to his original post (note that "Ce Gars" is J): http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3150591&userid=129681

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:35 pm
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BaronVonCakeman
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GrimBloodyFable wrote:
TheAtroxious wrote:
Oye, and I thought things were only getting tense in-game.

Personally, I think SM is really paranormal. Not only would it be one of the biggest letdowns in film history if he wasn't, but what reason would the cast and crew of Marble Hornets have to go to such lengths to scare Alex like that? Distort the tapes, stalk him everywhere, day and night, break into his house without making a sound.

I dunno. I think we just need more information is all.

I do enjoy the idea that because Alex was stalking SM at first, SM decided to start stalking Alex in return. A sort of, "Take that, bastard" move.

On another note, I think I passed a little rite of initiation with my first slender man dream. Something about sneaking around the city and getting messages from him. I didn't ever actually see him, though.


I think this is all too elaborate to be a simple prank, but I like the revenge stalking idea.

Also, having a dream about SM isn't a good thing. After a while, if you're anything like me, you'll start seeing him in patches of trees and stuff.


I ride the bus to the college every morning, and home again every afternoon, and I'm always looking for spots in the trees where he might be hiding. I have to catch the 6:55am bus outside my apartment building every morning, so naturally it's dark and spooky. The bus stop is right under a street light next to a creepy ally, so it always reminds me of Entry #2. One day the other week, when I was on my way to the bus stop, I looked towards the bus stop and there was this guy wearing a white hoodie underneath a black jacket, with black pants. He was facing away from me with the hood up and his head tilted to one side. I stopped dead in my tracks for a few seconds until I realized what I was looking at. Needless to say, it scared the crap outta me. /offtopic

Also, wow morscata, that's a lot more in depth than the one in the video. It confirms that Alex is supposed to be out-of-state atm.

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TheAtroxious
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You should have gone up to him and asked him about how Alex was doing, or if he'd scared the shit out of any college kid creeps lately. That would have been fun.

I'd not mind chatting up SM at a bus stop. Though, actually having had a real stalker once, I don't particularly like the idea of anyone following me to my house uninvited.

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Re: Back to the Basics - J's SA introduction to MH

morscata12 wrote:
...J's entire preamble from the SomethingAwful forums...


The way Alex gave J the tapes really makes it seems like Alex had "made it through" the SM ordeal and to start thinking about it again could easily reignite the situation.

It could also give credence to the "passing the buck" theory to J. [If you want to really dig you can say quick nod to "The Ring" is a hint/clue/etc.]

Further it makes Alex's disappearance less mysterious and puts J's search in the light of "I need to find Alex to figure out WTF is going on" instead of "Alex is missing OMG I must save him!"[/b]

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Re: Back to the Basics - J's SA introduction to MH

Two2teps wrote:
morscata12 wrote:
...J's entire preamble from the SomethingAwful forums...


The way Alex gave J the tapes really makes it seems like Alex had "made it through" the SM ordeal and to start thinking about it again could easily reignite the situation.

It could also give credence to the "passing the buck" theory to J. [If you want to really dig you can say quick nod to "The Ring" is a hint/clue/etc.]

Further it makes Alex's disappearance less mysterious and puts J's search in the light of "I need to find Alex to figure out WTF is going on" instead of "Alex is missing OMG I must save him!"[/b]


Indeed. It's easy to forget that Alex survived (at least long enough to give J the tapes) and to think "ZOMG ALEX IS IN TROUBLE" after seeing Entry #14.

EDIT: Rahh, the website keeps logging me out. It's never done that to me before; I used to be able to stay logged in for weeks at a time.

Also, although the bus stop man wasn't SM, he looked sketchy enough for me not to want to be like "LOL HI SM". =P

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Re: Back to the Basics - J's SA introduction to MH

morscata12 wrote:
I filed the tapes separately from my others, and was honestly too freaked out to look at them at the time, and eventually forgot about them. But reading about the slender man has peaked my interest again. Maybe it's what Alex was talking about that day.

So he was kinda expecting to see SM in the videos or what?
I don't think one normally would read about something and make a connection to some videos a friend made Razz

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Re: Back to the Basics - J's SA introduction to MH

Reila wrote:
morscata12 wrote:
I filed the tapes separately from my others, and was honestly too freaked out to look at them at the time, and eventually forgot about them. But reading about the slender man has peaked my interest again. Maybe it's what Alex was talking about that day.

So he was kinda expecting to see SM in the videos or what?
I don't think one normally would read about something and make a connection to some videos a friend made Razz


Agreed. I don't like that; it certainly makes the "game" a lot less realistic.

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pet peeve:
peaked, v., past tense, hit its maximum
piqued, v. past tense, excited (esp. with respect to interest, curiosity)

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TheAtroxious
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'Kay, I'm going to give J the benefit of the doubt here (amazing, innit?).

Haven't you ever heard about, read about, or saw something that either you couldn't process at the time, or your brain blocked out because you were a bit weirded out/grossed out by it, so you forgot about it fairly quickly, but you stumble upon a reference to something that describes something remarkably similar to the original experience, and you suddenly remember it again and decide to pursue it after all?

That's happened to me more times than I can count, and, in fact, something similar happened to me just yesterday. So I'm going to assume that this is the same sort of thing that J is supposed to have experienced.

An alternative explanation would be that he was freaked out by Alex's adamance that there was something wrong with the tapes and location. Sort of an infectious freak-out.

Also, maybe Alex's fear of the location might be a clue we can use. We keep getting hints like this. In his scribbles he wrote about "These pines," suggesting locale, and obviously he moved away for a reason, leading one to believe that it had something to do with the fact that he had an intense dislike to that area. Whether it was in his own mind, or whether the weird things happening around him were really tied into that area and that he had disturbed something there are up to debate, but certainly it gives more credence to the idea that this is sort of a localised thing. Perhaps he disturbed a site that was holy to SM or something similar. But I'm pretty sure that we probably should focus on what it was that caused all this, keeping in mind the emphasis on locale.

Which, of course, brings us back to.... Climbing wall, anyone?

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morscata12
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I took some notes on J's introduction post. Numbered items are facts based on J's post; bulleted items are my speculation on the numbered item. This should answer some of our questions:

1. Alex's official reason for halting work on MH was that the location presented "unworkable conditions"
- When talking with J, Alex places the blame on some aspect of the location rather than his stalker.

2. Alex lived extremely close (1/2 mile) to the set nearly his whole life
- Alex never ran into Slender Man when he was a child.

3. Alex only had Slender Man problems when he started filming
- Alex started encountering Slender Man shortly after he began filming in the forest.
- Alex doesn't know about Slender Man before filming Marble Hornets. He is not obsessed with Slender Man before encountering him.

4. Alex was only filming Marble Hornets for two months, then kept to himself for two weeks before unloading the tapes on J
- The Entries all occur within a timeframe of two and a half months (at most).

5. After ending MH, Alex seemed distant and kept to himself
- Alex seems incredibly distant in Entry 13. Some of the Entries may have come from the two week period after he stopped filming MH.

6. Alex lost weight and started looking sickly only after ending the project; he looked fine before this
- The bulk of his emotional turmoil was affected on him during the two weeks that he kept to himself.

7. Alex did not deny that his tapes had a similar effect to The Ring when J mentioned it
- The tapes didn't bring anything bad to J's life for two full years when they were in his closet.
- Once J started reviewing the tapes, he started becoming sickly. Alex may have grown sickly from reviewing the tapes as well.

8. Alex was planning on burning his tapes, but gave them to J without much hesitation
- Alex needed to get rid of the tapes to avoid further physical/mental danger.
- Getting rid of the tapes means Alex would not be able to review them.

9. Alex was strict in telling J to never give them back to him, and to never talk about the tapes or their content with him
- Alex is not totheark; he is not interested in getting reinvolved with the subject.
- If reviewing the tapes made Alex sick, he does not want that influence in his life again.

10. Alex warned J not to show the tapes to other people, but implied it was okay that J watch them
- J's insistance drove Alex to agree. J is extremely persistent in the pursuit of his goals, and doesn't take no for an answer.

11. Alex transfered out of state to another college shortly after giving J the tapes
- Alex is attempting to continue attending college. His spirit was not entirely broken.
- Alex is in another state, far away from the location with the "unworkable conditions".

Two Important Points
- Alex became a target for Slender Man's attacks due to filming in the forest.
- Watching the physical tapes causes sickness.

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Both of those "important" points are invalid.

1.) One of the great mysteries of this "ARG" is finding out why Alex/Brian/maybe j are being targeted by SM. We have not been told otherwise.

2.) The tapes do not cause the sickness. The influence of ToT caused the sickness. Remember J didnt get sick all the way up till entry#9.

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Omega_Absolute wrote:
Both of those "important" points are invalid.

1.) One of the great mysteries of this "ARG" is finding out why Alex/Brian/maybe j are being targeted by SM. We have not been told otherwise.

2.) The tapes do not cause the sickness. The influence of ToT caused the sickness. Remember J didnt get sick all the way up till entry#9.


Maybe it takes a while for it to take affect?

Or the deeper he goes into it the worse it becomes.

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incedio wrote:
Omega_Absolute wrote:
Both of those "important" points are invalid.

1.) One of the great mysteries of this "ARG" is finding out why Alex/Brian/maybe j are being targeted by SM. We have not been told otherwise.

2.) The tapes do not cause the sickness. The influence of ToT caused the sickness. Remember J didnt get sick all the way up till entry#9.


Maybe it takes a while for it to take affect?

Or the deeper he goes into it the worse it becomes.


Every time J has gotten sick was exactly the time ToT posted a reply video (or stood right behind him). When J was interviewing Tim, he was not sick at all and fully capable of coherence. The only time J didn't get sick was 3 years ago when (presumably) ToT filmed him getting into the car (But he did get sick when he POSTED the video).

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morscata12 wrote:
2. Alex lived extremely close (1/2 mile) to the set nearly his whole life
- Alex never ran into Slender Man when he was a child.


I think that's too broad of an assumption. More like: Alex did not remember having run into Slender Man when he was a child.

That could be because he never did encounter him, or because he forgot about it, if he had. I think we should leave the door open for the scenario that people can forget about an encounter if they want to, which might explain the reaction or lack thereof of some of the crew. Unless we get some more evidence that shows they knew something was going on and have reacted to it.

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Quinctia wrote:
morscata12 wrote:
2. Alex lived extremely close (1/2 mile) to the set nearly his whole life
- Alex never ran into Slender Man when he was a child.


I think that's too broad of an assumption. More like: Alex did not remember having run into Slender Man when he was a child.

That could be because he never did encounter him, or because he forgot about it, if he had. I think we should leave the door open for the scenario that people can forget about an encounter if they want to, which might explain the reaction or lack thereof of some of the crew. Unless we get some more evidence that shows they knew something was going on and have reacted to it.


It's possible that he suppressed the knowledge of every coming into contact with SM, because of the things he made him do and what not. Maybe he found where SM was located when they were filming, opening the can of worms.

I don't think he got sick because of the TTA videos o.o I still believe the SM - sickness thing.

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