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BaronVonCakeman
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TheAtroxious wrote:
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That's something else I've noticed and have been pondering: I wonder if the whole project was made up by Alex just as an excuse to film himself and his friends/other people?


I can't say I like the prank theories at all. They sort of ruin the myths of slender man and cheapen it a bit somehow.

Alex is a film student. He's pretty much guaranteed to have to tape his friends at some point or another. Less a conspiracy/perverted desire than a necessity because film students are just that broke


Don't get me wrong, I hate the prank theories. I absolutely hate them. That would be a terrible ending to this series.

I only meant that perhaps Alex was being stalked by SM, or he wanted to find/catch him or something. So he decides he wants to see if his friends/other people can see or are affected by SM, so as an excuse to film them all (or rationalize having a camera on at all times) he comes up a shitty story, gives it a random name, and starts location scouting/filming.

I'm beginning to like this idea less and less but I just thought I'd put it up because I didn't think it was discussed before and also because I did notice the MH crew/actors comment a few times on the poor quality on the script.

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Ah, then it was a misunderstanding. I guess I can see where you're coming from, but at the same time, Alex filmed some of the videos at a time when he was distinctly not scared of SM. I'd say that the majority of his filming later on was caused by his fear, but at first it seems to be an honest, if god-awful attempt at making a student film.

Fyo, I can see that. Water does seem kind of lame as the creature's greatest weakness, but I'm going to hold out hope that the creators of this give it a better twist than Signs did. The water thing really does seem to be a major theme, but at least I'm hoping they pull it off in a non-groan-inducing way.

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Is anyone else starting to feel a little bit nervous about MH? Kind of like when you start watching a new show on TV, and you really like it, but you just kinda think it isn't gonna make it, and you really want them to explain what the hell is going on before they just go radio silent. I was never all that into Lost but I hear that's how people felt about that. Or The Prisoner, for that matter. I'm concerned about the pace of MH; if you project out at the current pace we'll figure out what's going on right about the time The Simpsons goes off the air. Which, honestly, is fine with me - I'm not in a hurry. But realistically considering real life issues, I'm worried the creators will either get bored, get real jobs, or just run out of steam and we'll be left with videos like the ones at the end of Hallucinine. Every time I see a new MH video I breathe a little sigh of relief that it hasn't just faded away.

Not tryin' to be a downer. Maybe I'm just anxious for answers. Smile

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The end of entry 17 seems to confirm that J did go to Alex's old house in entry 16. This also explains why he calls Alex's name before Brian's.

The distortion around Tim's head's shadow and his pained reaction makes me think that Slender Man was specifically targeting Tim. But why? Was he just messing with him, or channeling something through him? It may be the latter: If water does give SM strength, then having his vessel gulp down a whole water bottle would probably make his powers overload. Maybe that's what wiped everyone's memory, and what screwed up the video footage. All the water-related stuff seems weird to me, so I'm hoping we get a detailed explanation. I doubt the creators would ditch out now, as it seems they are not creating content on the fly. Everything is connecting so wonderfully that I cannot imagine they are able to do that without planning - so I imagine there is a nice ending waiting for us.

For anyone who's watched The Prisoner:
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J pulls off Slender Man's mask to reveal it was J the whole time!


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This may be slightly off topic but I recalled seeing one of the journal pages in Jafool having Yggdrasil written on it. Yggdrasil had its three roots in different bodies of water and drew its power from them. The water also had powers of knowledge but in order to get it you had to sacrifice something. Odin had to give up an eye for example. Maybe if the slender man is connected to that myth then he could very well get power from water and maybe that's why he has no features.

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morscata12 wrote:
The end of entry 17 seems to confirm that J did go to Alex's old house in entry 16. This also explains why he calls Alex's name before Brian's.

The distortion around Tim's head's shadow and his pained reaction makes me think that Slender Man was specifically targeting Tim. But why? Was he just messing with him, or channeling something through him? It may be the latter: If water does give SM strength, then having his vessel gulp down a whole water bottle would probably make his powers overload. Maybe that's what wiped everyone's memory, and what screwed up the video footage. All the water-related stuff seems weird to me, so I'm hoping we get a detailed explanation. I doubt the creators would ditch out now, as it seems they are not creating content on the fly. Everything is connecting so wonderfully that I cannot imagine they are able to do that without planning - so I imagine there is a nice ending waiting for us.


If he was SM target why is he still around 3 years later and Brian and Alex are awol?

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The Atroxious: I enjoy your fetishizing of Slender Man, if only because I've been inclined towards similarly bizarre figures. That said, a bit of casual asking around among my friends and it appears you will have him all to yourself, not because he's creepy as hell or anything, but because all the other ladies are going to be fighting tooth and nail over Tim.

(also J, according to a few people? Go J!)

I'm concerned about the pacing as well, but I actually think the more discussion we get out of this latest video the more it's becoming obvious that a lot was actually put out there. It's opened up the door to more clues about how and when it's possible to see SM (the "only through a camera and/or when he wants you to see him" theory is gaining ground with this latest installment, considering it's apparently a stationary cam), the water link (although whether it's good or bad to SM it's still hard to say), the loss-of-memory thing, more concrete indications that J was already heavily involved in this and simply didn't realize it (what's up with the jacket?!), and more clues that no one was impressed by the contents of MHthefilmproject--although that may actually have nothing to do with the mystery, to be fair.

Granted, a lot of these are more questions than answers, but I think there's more to this entry than meets the eye and I can't wait to see TTA's reply to it.

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In the theme of some recent totheark replies are we gonna see footage from the window back into the house?

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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
Ugly Myfanwe wrote:
Man everyone thinks this Marble Hornets film is a load of crap. Check out the look on Tim's face after he finds out Alex wrote all the dialogue and compare that to J's "pretentious film school fare" comment.

Probably irrelevant but I think it's funny and sad that they aren't even trying to be nice about it.

Also the captcha on this site is effing ridiculous. I exceeded my attempts every single time because it's damn near impossible to tell what letter goes where. Every single time I have some stray, half-buried letter overlapping another one and you can't tell where it goes. ARGH.


That's something else I've noticed and have been pondering: I wonder if the whole project was made up by Alex just as an excuse to film himself and his friends/other people?


Holy crap, great idea. Some people say that he must have been paranoid before this too, but we do not have the evidence to suggest that he DIDN'T. We learned that SM can now erase your memory or something, right? Maybe he noticed him stalking him or something, and made the movie as an excuse. Or he noticed how his tapes were getting malfunctions and he started to see him. He made the movie in order to investigate it some more, but he constantly kept losing his memory. Then he would just be a film student making a movie, he wouldn't feel weird. Maybe he noticed it again or left himself clues to remember it, until it came to a point where SM could no longer control him and he went after Alex.

I like the theory that water gives slender man power. It's said that he lives around lake areas and such right? But then again.....totheark...that suggests that there is a flood, and the sanctuary would be the ark. If water was his power, why would you run to the ark? You wouldn't necessarily be safe....but then again if it was his weakness then he would be ON the ark, because he wanted to get away from the water.

Tim's shadow is the first I noticed....I guess it kind of looked like SM was eating his memory or something D:

Maybe he attacked when the film stopped. Then no one remembered it.

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morscata12 wrote:
The end of entry 17 seems to confirm that J did go to Alex's old house in entry 16. This also explains why he calls Alex's name before Brian's.

The distortion around Tim's head's shadow and his pained reaction makes me think that Slender Man was specifically targeting Tim. But why? Was he just messing with him, or channeling something through him? It may be the latter: If water does give SM strength, then having his vessel gulp down a whole water bottle would probably make his powers overload. Maybe that's what wiped everyone's memory, and what screwed up the video footage. All the water-related stuff seems weird to me, so I'm hoping we get a detailed explanation. I doubt the creators would ditch out now, as it seems they are not creating content on the fly. Everything is connecting so wonderfully that I cannot imagine they are able to do that without planning - so I imagine there is a nice ending waiting for us.

For anyone who's watched The Prisoner:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
J pulls off Slender Man's mask to reveal it was J the whole time!


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
That also happens in numerous dream-sequences in the Chzo Mythos, except with the Welder rather than the Tall Man.


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I'm beginning to like the idea that SM channels his powers through water. Thinking about it more and more, we really don't have any real significant clues one way or another whether water is an asset or detriment to SM's power, but there does seem to be an effect when water comes up, and, thinking about it, it seems to me to be more of an amplifier than something to be feared.

Also, Incedio, the thing with your argument is that we've never actually seen TTA being benevolent toward J, so I'm more likely to think that if his reference to an ark is in reference to a boat, then he's more likely trying to lead J into a trap.

For that matter, SM hasn't proven to be completely malevolent on the other hand, either. I think if he would have attacked them, somebody would have noticed something off when their consciousness and/or memory came back. He does seem to want something, but as it seems, everything he does is psionic. There are far worse things he could be doing to get his way.

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You know, I'm starting to wonder how reliable a narrator J is.

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YUtsubara wrote:
This may be slightly off topic but I recalled seeing one of the journal pages in Jafool having Yggdrasil written on it. Yggdrasil had its three roots in different bodies of water and drew its power from them. The water also had powers of knowledge but in order to get it you had to sacrifice something. Odin had to give up an eye for example. Maybe if the slender man is connected to that myth then he could very well get power from water and maybe that's why he has no features.


Hmmm. Thats an interesting connection there!

TheAtroxious wrote:
I'm beginning to like the idea that SM channels his powers through water. Thinking about it more and more, we really don't have any real significant clues one way or another whether water is an asset or detriment to SM's power, but there does seem to be an effect when water comes up, and, thinking about it, it seems to me to be more of an amplifier than something to be feared.


Then how would he have managed to cause such a ruckus in Iraq, an incredibly dry region?

Which now makes me think, why hasn't anyone questioned him being in Iraq. Why was he there at all? I guess a more specific question would be what SM's intensions are...

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Yougottaloseallhope wrote:
Then how would he have managed to cause such a ruckus in Iraq, an incredibly dry region?

Which now makes me think, why hasn't anyone questioned him being in Iraq. Why was he there at all? I guess a more specific question would be what SM's intensions are...


If SM is anything like Indrid Cold of the Mothman Prophecies, of which many parallels have already been drawn, then he appears in conjunction w/ disasters. So the conflict of Iraq may draw him in both in terms of human suffering and/or natural suffering (e.g., burning oil wells).

The jury is still out on why the conjunction: Do they cause the disasters? Are they observers? Are they harbingers? Does the event somehow weaken barriers between dimensions/worlds/whathaveyou?

As for the water, I still think the thirst, fever, forgetfulness, and electromagnetic interference are symptoms of SM's presence rather than intentional acts on his part.

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Don't forget, we still haven't connected JAF and MH.

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