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dopeoplethink
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Yougottaloseallhope wrote:
Sirdangolot5 wrote:
Don't forget, we still haven't connected JAF and MH.


Fine, fine, fine.

im still getting a hang of this shit so bear with me.


We all want this to be a beautiful union of ARGs (or what ever MH qualifies as) with so much crazy shit that it would make us implode from the sheer awesomeness of it all.

Edit: I own this page too.

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False. I, for one, don't want the two to merge.


agreed.

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 		i dunno, if it was handled well, it could be pretty awesome

though it'd have to be written into both plots, not just some random slash-in

or they could just do it an april fool's edition Razz

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 		am i the only one who thought "oh shit, Tim is morphing into SM" at the end?
one second he is drinking his water, and the next his face begins to become featureless.
i really thought SM was morphing Tim into himself, and then had his way doing whatever he does to those who cant remember.

maybe the guys a date-raper: drugs you with roofies and then has his way, and will stalk you until you're vunerable again

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 		The theory does seem to make an odd sort of sense.

No head on SM, Tim's head's shadow bugging out...

The water...

The freakout...

But this theory is creeping the fuck out of me!!!

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 		Thing about Tim turning into Slender is kind of silly at this point, due to the fact that this tape was in the bag with the other three-year old tapes, yet as of last month, Tim is as normal as someone in his situation could possibly be. I.E., not Slender Man.

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 		MH-lurker here to spill some theories...
Note that most of the following are theories that assume that the house in 16 IS in fact Alex's house.

Entry 14 in Relation to 16
I'm almost absolutely positive that this has been brought up/suggested before but... Would it be acceptable to assume the blood J sees in the sink in this Entry is from the head wound Alex has in Entry 14? (Actually it HAS been suggested, by "Chaos", according to the Marble Hornets Wikidot page, heh.)

We could assume Alex knew perfectly well that he was bleeding in 14 because:
- Alex changes the tape after 32 minutes, and when it returns the camera is on his face, which is bleeding heavily. Given the fact that he has some blood on his head BEFORE he changes the tape in the first place, he may have been bleeding for a while and just doesn't care anymore. By the time he turns the camera towards himself, the blood could have dripped further down his face, since it looks much worse after the tape change than it did before.
- Maybe the blood flow just wouldn't stop? In between changing tapes, he may have gone to the sink (leaving blood drops on the floor from blood dripping from his head as he went) and therefore left the blood in it. I notice blood drops leading to the pills as well, perhaps they are painkillers that Alex takes to dull the pain of his head wound?


The Mystery Pills
Though as that Wikidot pages mentions "Misery_Machine" as noting, the blood in the sink DOES look like it was splashed in with force, perhaps coughed or vomited up. It doesn't look as if it was dripped into the sink from a head injury.
I immediately thought the blood had something to do with the pills J found in Alex's house:
- Could the pills have made Alex sick enough to cough or vomit blood? Do we know what type of pills they are?
-We know J took some of the pills, for whatever reason... do we know why? Did he feel a compulsion to, possibly because of the presence of Slender Man and some kind of influence SM had on him? It should be common sense not to just ingest a few pills you have randomly found in an abandoned house (with blood in the sink, no less).
- We don't know how the pills affected J or what they were for. Could they have something to do with Slender Man at all? I noticed J's coughing definitely worsened after he ingested the pills.

Suicide Attempt/ Nonrelation to 14
One of the most tentative theories I've had is that Alex attempted suicide by shooting himself in the forehead, perhaps after overdosing on pills failed (hence the forcefully splattered blood, the many pill bottles, the bullet casing, the drips of blood on the floor).
This, of course, would only be plausible if the blood in the sink was NOT from entry 14 - Alex wouldn't survive a bullet shoved directly in his brain, would he?

I have my doubts about the blood being from Alex's head in 14 because it looks so fresh. The blood would definitely have dried by the time J investigated the house if it had been from Alex's head wound in Entry 14.

However, the one thing that tells me this theory is incorrect is the fact that there's no body. If he killed himself, he would be dead at the scene, unless Slender Man removed his body...


Suicide Attempt/ RELATION to 14
The most far-fetched and ridiculous theory I've had is that the blood IS from 14, IS from a suicide attempt by Alex, but Alex somehow survived. The blood from his head in 14 is from the bullethole in his head.. The blood in the sink is, of course, from the attempt. I noticed that there are drips of blood leading up to where the pills are. It's possible that the pills are painkillers that Alex took after realizing he wasn't dead and was only feeling pain from the wound.

It's kind of silly, I know. I don't think Alex is superhuman or immortal... or that Slender Man would keep him alive somehow. Just a crack theory I suppose.

Other Theories
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) staged Alex's suicide, knowing J was investigating
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) killed Alex and moved his body
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) ATTEMPTED to kill Alex, but failed, and Alex fled
- The blood, and/or the pills, and/or bullet casing is/are all "red herrings"

We also should remember that Entry 17 reveals that J has forgotten some things about the past. Did J himself perhaps have something to do with the blood in the sink or any of the other events that we know of so far?
Was J the first one to be stalked by Slender Man, without knowing it? Did J somehow bring all this onto Alex?

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Vicarious Atonement wrote:
MH-lurker here to spill some theories...
Note that most of the following are theories that assume that the house in 16 IS in fact Alex's house.

Entry 14 in Relation to 16
I'm almost absolutely positive that this has been brought up/suggested before but... Would it be acceptable to assume the blood J sees in the sink in this Entry is from the head wound Alex has in Entry 14? (Actually it HAS been suggested, by "Chaos", according to the Marble Hornets Wikidot page, heh.)

We could assume Alex knew perfectly well that he was bleeding in 14 because:
- Alex changes the tape after 32 minutes, and when it returns the camera is on his face, which is bleeding heavily. Given the fact that he has some blood on his head BEFORE he changes the tape in the first place, he may have been bleeding for a while and just doesn't care anymore. By the time he turns the camera towards himself, the blood could have dripped further down his face, since it looks much worse after the tape change than it did before.
- Maybe the blood flow just wouldn't stop? In between changing tapes, he may have gone to the sink (leaving blood drops on the floor from blood dripping from his head as he went) and therefore left the blood in it. I notice blood drops leading to the pills as well, perhaps they are painkillers that Alex takes to dull the pain of his head wound?


The Mystery Pills
Though as that Wikidot pages mentions "Misery_Machine" as noting, the blood in the sink DOES look like it was splashed in with force, perhaps coughed or vomited up. It doesn't look as if it was dripped into the sink from a head injury.
I immediately thought the blood had something to do with the pills J found in Alex's house:
- Could the pills have made Alex sick enough to cough or vomit blood? Do we know what type of pills they are?
-We know J took some of the pills, for whatever reason... do we know why? Did he feel a compulsion to, possibly because of the presence of Slender Man and some kind of influence SM had on him? It should be common sense not to just ingest a few pills you have randomly found in an abandoned house (with blood in the sink, no less).
- We don't know how the pills affected J or what they were for. Could they have something to do with Slender Man at all? I noticed J's coughing definitely worsened after he ingested the pills.

Suicide Attempt/ Nonrelation to 14
One of the most tentative theories I've had is that Alex attempted suicide by shooting himself in the forehead, perhaps after overdosing on pills failed (hence the forcefully splattered blood, the many pill bottles, the bullet casing, the drips of blood on the floor).
This, of course, would only be plausible if the blood in the sink was NOT from entry 14 - Alex wouldn't survive a bullet shoved directly in his brain, would he?

I have my doubts about the blood being from Alex's head in 14 because it looks so fresh. The blood would definitely have dried by the time J investigated the house if it had been from Alex's head wound in Entry 14.

However, the one thing that tells me this theory is incorrect is the fact that there's no body. If he killed himself, he would be dead at the scene, unless Slender Man removed his body...


Suicide Attempt/ RELATION to 14
The most far-fetched and ridiculous theory I've had is that the blood IS from 14, IS from a suicide attempt by Alex, but Alex somehow survived. The blood from his head in 14 is from the bullethole in his head.. The blood in the sink is, of course, from the attempt. I noticed that there are drips of blood leading up to where the pills are. It's possible that the pills are painkillers that Alex took after realizing he wasn't dead and was only feeling pain from the wound.

It's kind of silly, I know. I don't think Alex is superhuman or immortal... or that Slender Man would keep him alive somehow. Just a crack theory I suppose.

Other Theories
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) staged Alex's suicide, knowing J was investigating
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) killed Alex and moved his body
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) ATTEMPTED to kill Alex, but failed, and Alex fled
- The blood, and/or the pills, and/or bullet casing is/are all "red herrings"

We also should remember that Entry 17 reveals that J has forgotten some things about the past. Did J himself perhaps have something to do with the blood in the sink or any of the other events that we know of so far?
Was J the first one to be stalked by Slender Man, without knowing it? Did J somehow bring all this onto Alex?


Okay, well first of all, I think it's extremely unlikely to the point of being impossible that the blood in #16 is from three years ago. Blood doesn't stay that colour, it turns coppery and it looks fairly fresh (like, past few days).

Second, I think that the only way it could have not been coughed up or vomited up is if someone tried to rinse the sink somehow, because it definitely looks like there was more than just dripping or even pouring from a laceration to the head.

Third, I don't think it's implied anywhere that J actually swallowed any of the pills, I believe he just nabbed them and stuffed them in his pocket.

I would like to ask, once again, however: Has anybody heard back from J about the pills he took from the house yet? I know he was asked by at least one person what kind of pills they were/what was on the label. It's usually not like J to ignore such questions, is it? Unless what kind of pills they were is somehow irrelevant. I don't think so, though.

EDIT: I also don't believe it's possible Alex shot himself in the head and survived. And by looking at it, I really don't think his head laceration is from a bullet, unless he was somehow grazed. It just looks like a cut.

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gordon_ramsay wrote:
DavFlamerock wrote:
False. I, for one, don't want the two to merge.


Ditto.

agreed.


Brados wrote:
am i the only one who thought "oh shit, Tim is morphing into SM" at the end?
one second he is drinking his water, and the next his face begins to become featureless.
i really thought SM was morphing Tim into himself, and then had his way doing whatever he does to those who cant remember.

maybe the guys a date-raper: drugs you with roofies and then has his way, and will stalk you until you're vunerable again


Mmm, tentacles.

Nah, I don't think Tim is morphing into the slender man. It seems to me just to be a blurring or overlay of some sort, but I can see how that would be a possible conclusion. But I think that if he really was turning into SM, he'd have been too far gone by now.

Anyway, what's so disturbing about the theory of him turning into SM? Seems to me like one of the more optimistic views of things the original SM could do to you.

Vicarious Atonement wrote:
MH-lurker here to spill some theories...
Note that most of the following are theories that assume that the house in 16 IS in fact Alex's house.

Entry 14 in Relation to 16
I'm almost absolutely positive that this has been brought up/suggested before but... Would it be acceptable to assume the blood J sees in the sink in this Entry is from the head wound Alex has in Entry 14? (Actually it HAS been suggested, by "Chaos", according to the Marble Hornets Wikidot page, heh.)

We could assume Alex knew perfectly well that he was bleeding in 14 because:
- Alex changes the tape after 32 minutes, and when it returns the camera is on his face, which is bleeding heavily. Given the fact that he has some blood on his head BEFORE he changes the tape in the first place, he may have been bleeding for a while and just doesn't care anymore. By the time he turns the camera towards himself, the blood could have dripped further down his face, since it looks much worse after the tape change than it did before.
- Maybe the blood flow just wouldn't stop? In between changing tapes, he may have gone to the sink (leaving blood drops on the floor from blood dripping from his head as he went) and therefore left the blood in it. I notice blood drops leading to the pills as well, perhaps they are painkillers that Alex takes to dull the pain of his head wound?


The Mystery Pills
Though as that Wikidot pages mentions "Misery_Machine" as noting, the blood in the sink DOES look like it was splashed in with force, perhaps coughed or vomited up. It doesn't look as if it was dripped into the sink from a head injury.
I immediately thought the blood had something to do with the pills J found in Alex's house:
- Could the pills have made Alex sick enough to cough or vomit blood? Do we know what type of pills they are?
-We know J took some of the pills, for whatever reason... do we know why? Did he feel a compulsion to, possibly because of the presence of Slender Man and some kind of influence SM had on him? It should be common sense not to just ingest a few pills you have randomly found in an abandoned house (with blood in the sink, no less).
- We don't know how the pills affected J or what they were for. Could they have something to do with Slender Man at all? I noticed J's coughing definitely worsened after he ingested the pills.

Suicide Attempt/ Nonrelation to 14
One of the most tentative theories I've had is that Alex attempted suicide by shooting himself in the forehead, perhaps after overdosing on pills failed (hence the forcefully splattered blood, the many pill bottles, the bullet casing, the drips of blood on the floor).
This, of course, would only be plausible if the blood in the sink was NOT from entry 14 - Alex wouldn't survive a bullet shoved directly in his brain, would he?

I have my doubts about the blood being from Alex's head in 14 because it looks so fresh. The blood would definitely have dried by the time J investigated the house if it had been from Alex's head wound in Entry 14.

However, the one thing that tells me this theory is incorrect is the fact that there's no body. If he killed himself, he would be dead at the scene, unless Slender Man removed his body...


Suicide Attempt/ RELATION to 14
The most far-fetched and ridiculous theory I've had is that the blood IS from 14, IS from a suicide attempt by Alex, but Alex somehow survived. The blood from his head in 14 is from the bullethole in his head.. The blood in the sink is, of course, from the attempt. I noticed that there are drips of blood leading up to where the pills are. It's possible that the pills are painkillers that Alex took after realizing he wasn't dead and was only feeling pain from the wound.

It's kind of silly, I know. I don't think Alex is superhuman or immortal... or that Slender Man would keep him alive somehow. Just a crack theory I suppose.

Other Theories
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) staged Alex's suicide, knowing J was investigating
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) killed Alex and moved his body
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) ATTEMPTED to kill Alex, but failed, and Alex fled
- The blood, and/or the pills, and/or bullet casing is/are all "red herrings"

We also should remember that Entry 17 reveals that J has forgotten some things about the past. Did J himself perhaps have something to do with the blood in the sink or any of the other events that we know of so far?
Was J the first one to be stalked by Slender Man, without knowing it? Did J somehow bring all this onto Alex?


Hm, these are some pretty good theories. I dunno, maybe the blood was supposed to be fairly old, 'cause J scratched at it, and it didn't seem to come off. I'm just thinking that most blood substances you can buy or make just don't dry realistically (darken into a brownish color). In fact, I've never seen a kind that does, so we have to take this into consideration when trying to decipher its age.

You did get me thinking, however. This is a pretty big leap of faith here, but the ending of 14 says, "I need to find out where Alex has gone." Is this possibly some sort of indication that this video is supposed to have been taken just before Alex disappeared? Of course, the more logical conclusion is that J saw Alex in a situation that looked dangerous, so he wanted to find him as soon as possible.

Another thing I noticed is based around the fact that he changed the tape after 32 minutes. So, what, he changed it, then stared into the camera, and at the end...turned the whole camera off? Alex turning the camera off at this point, even though it had a new tape inside after he had been obsessively taping himself nonstop previously would be a significant event. Likewise, if J cut the tape between when Alex turned out the light and when he's staring into the lens, and the very end of 14 is when Alex actually changed tapes, then there would be a point where Alex gets up again and waits for the present tape runs out. This would focus a possibility of suspicion on J, because what if there was something important in the missing footage.

Does that make sense?

It's a bit convoluted, and perhaps I'm over-analysing it, but something struck me as fishy the more I thought about it.

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Vicarious Atonement wrote:
MH-lurker here to spill some theories...
Note that most of the following are theories that assume that the house in 16 IS in fact Alex's house.

Entry 14 in Relation to 16
I'm almost absolutely positive that this has been brought up/suggested before but... Would it be acceptable to assume the blood J sees in the sink in this Entry is from the head wound Alex has in Entry 14? (Actually it HAS been suggested, by "Chaos", according to the Marble Hornets Wiki-dot page, heh.)

We could assume Alex knew perfectly well that he was bleeding in 14 because:
- Alex changes the tape after 32 minutes, and when it returns the camera is on his face, which is bleeding heavily. Given the fact that he has some blood on his head BEFORE he changes the tape in the first place, he may have been bleeding for a while and just doesn't care anymore. By the time he turns the camera towards himself, the blood could have dripped further down his face, since it looks much worse after the tape change than it did before.
- Maybe the blood flow just wouldn't stop? In between changing tapes, he may have gone to the sink (leaving blood drops on the floor from blood dripping from his head as he went) and therefore left the blood in it. I notice blood drops leading to the pills as well, perhaps they are painkillers that Alex takes to dull the pain of his head wound?


The Mystery Pills
Though as that Wikidot pages mentions "Misery_Machine" as noting, the blood in the sink DOES look like it was splashed in with force, perhaps coughed or vomited up. It doesn't look as if it was dripped into the sink from a head injury.
I immediately thought the blood had something to do with the pills J found in Alex's house:
- Could the pills have made Alex sick enough to cough or vomit blood? Do we know what type of pills they are?
-We know J took some of the pills, for whatever reason... do we know why? Did he feel a compulsion to, possibly because of the presence of Slender Man and some kind of influence SM had on him? It should be common sense not to just ingest a few pills you have randomly found in an abandoned house (with blood in the sink, no less).
- We don't know how the pills affected J or what they were for. Could they have something to do with Slender Man at all? I noticed J's coughing definitely worsened after he ingested the pills.

Suicide Attempt/ Non-relation to 14
One of the most tentative theories I've had is that Alex attempted suicide by shooting himself in the forehead, perhaps after overdosing on pills failed (hence the forcefully splattered blood, the many pill bottles, the bullet casing, the drips of blood on the floor).
This, of course, would only be plausible if the blood in the sink was NOT from entry 14 - Alex wouldn't survive a bullet shoved directly in his brain, would he?

I have my doubts about the blood being from Alex's head in 14 because it looks so fresh. The blood would definitely have dried by the time J investigated the house if it had been from Alex's head wound in Entry 14.

However, the one thing that tells me this theory is incorrect is the fact that there's no body. If he killed himself, he would be dead at the scene, unless Slender Man removed his body...


Suicide Attempt/ RELATION to 14
The most far-fetched and ridiculous theory I've had is that the blood IS from 14, IS from a suicide attempt by Alex, but Alex somehow survived. The blood from his head in 14 is from the bullethole in his head.. The blood in the sink is, of course, from the attempt. I noticed that there are drips of blood leading up to where the pills are. It's possible that the pills are painkillers that Alex took after realizing he wasn't dead and was only feeling pain from the wound.

It's kind of silly, I know. I don't think Alex is superhuman or immortal... or that Slender Man would keep him alive somehow. Just a crack theory I suppose.

Other Theories
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) staged Alex's suicide, knowing J was investigating
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) killed Alex and moved his body
- Slender Man (or someone else involved) ATTEMPTED to kill Alex, but failed, and Alex fled
- The blood, and/or the pills, and/or bullet casing is/are all "red herrings"

We also should remember that Entry 17 reveals that J has forgotten some things about the past. Did J himself perhaps have something to do with the blood in the sink or any of the other events that we know of so far?
Was J the first one to be stalked by Slender Man, without knowing it? Did J somehow bring all this onto Alex?



I made another post a few pages back which showed a still frame from the entry #14 where you see SM enter Alex's room, some people disregarded it and others said they don't see it, but for me and several others I showed it to, its clearly obvious that the SM guy was holding a gun in his hand when he enters the room, not the hand that pushes the door, but the other hand that stays close to the door frame.

Look closely at the 34-36 seconds mark in the video and you can notice it in his right hand.

I think that is a big clue to the correlation of the bullet found in the house.

Why would SM use a gun?

My THEORY (i know not many will agree with)... is that it is not SM who enters Alex's room that night, but actually Alex instead. I think its a continuation from later in the evening of when SM was outside his house or something. Alex didn't feel safe sleeping so he set his camera up to record what might happen OR it could very well have been Alex under some type of sleepwalking / hypnosis thing. SM seems to move very similarly to a human who had a head trauma, kinda like zombie walking.

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hyenagod wrote:
Why would SM use a gun?

My THEORY (i know not many will agree with)... is that it is not SM who enters Alex's room that night, but actually Alex instead. I think its a continuation from later in the evening of when SM was outside his house or something. Alex didn't feel safe sleeping so he set his camera up to record what might happen OR it could very well have been Alex under some type of sleepwalking / hypnosis thing. SM seems to move very similarly to a human who had a head trauma, kinda like zombie walking.


It would be pretty hard to operate a gun without fingers.

See, the thing about that theory is that the creature walking through the doorway has to duck through to enter the room. Alex doesn't ever seem to be more than average height. Also, shortly afterward, Alex (who is quite a bit shorted than the figure that entered his room) gets up and closes the door, without any of the strange movements that the one who entered his room displayed.

Anyway, pay attention to the shapes of their heads. There is a noticeable difference if you pay attention.

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Okay, well first of all, I think it's extremely unlikely to the point of being impossible that the blood in #16 is from three years ago. Blood doesn't stay that colour, it turns coppery and it looks fairly fresh (like, past few days).

Third, I don't think it's implied anywhere that J actually swallowed any of the pills, I believe he just nabbed them and stuffed them in his pocket.

EDIT: I also don't believe it's possible Alex shot himself in the head and survived. And by looking at it, I really don't think his head laceration is from a bullet, unless he was somehow grazed. It just looks like a cut.


D'oh, how clumsy of me.. I completely forgot about the time gap. Stupid, stupid. Pardon that, I was practically confusing myself with all I was writing down, haha. Thanks for pointing that out. It's always helpful when we can cross something off the list for sure to avoid getting mixed up in more and more improbably theories.

I just assumed he took the pills, but I realize you're absolutely right, we have never been told for sure that he took any at all. Man, I need to start thinking things out more before posting them! I was just excited to start contributing, I suppose.

I agree with you about Alex's wound looking like a cut. I'm almost positive it is some kind of cut. The theory about Alex surviving some kind of suicide attempt was just a "crack theory" like I said. Just something to think about, I guess I'm just really perplexed by the blood and pills and everything. It's very fascinating.


TheAtroxious wrote:


Hm, these are some pretty good theories. I dunno, maybe the blood was supposed to be fairly old, 'cause J scratched at it, and it didn't seem to come off. I'm just thinking that most blood substances you can buy or make just don't dry realistically (darken into a brownish color). In fact, I've never seen a kind that does, so we have to take this into consideration when trying to decipher its age.

Another thing I noticed is based around the fact that he changed the tape after 32 minutes. So, what, he changed it, then stared into the camera, and at the end...turned the whole camera off? Alex turning the camera off at this point, even though it had a new tape inside after he had been obsessively taping himself nonstop previously would be a significant event. Likewise, if J cut the tape between when Alex turned out the light and when he's staring into the lens, and the very end of 14 is when Alex actually changed tapes, then there would be a point where Alex gets up again and waits for the present tape runs out. This would focus a possibility of suspicion on J, because what if there was something important in the missing footage.

Does that make sense?

It's a bit convoluted, and perhaps I'm over-analysing it, but something struck me as fishy the more I thought about it.


Yeah, it completely slipped my mind that he scratched at it and it was dry (not to mention the time gap I forgot too)... I'll get better at this, haha!

But you know, your mentioning Alex just turning off the tape really sounded off alarm bells for me, since it is incredibly odd for him to just switch it off after being so fanatic about having himself on film whenever he could. Especially since he seems unnerved and seems to be looking at something specific off-camera. Not to mention the fact that he's bleeding. You'd think that if there was something there, he'd want to capture whatever happened on film!

The more I think about it, the harder it is not to put at least some suspicion on J. Especially since now we have reason to believe he has forgotten some important things. Isn't it possible that he has erased, destroyed, omitted, or edited important footage but does not remember doing so?
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Okay, well first of all, I think it's extremely unlikely to the point of being impossible that the blood in #16 is from three years ago. Blood doesn't stay that colour, it turns coppery and it looks fairly fresh (like, past few days).

Third, I don't think it's implied anywhere that J actually swallowed any of the pills, I believe he just nabbed them and stuffed them in his pocket.

EDIT: I also don't believe it's possible Alex shot himself in the head and survived. And by looking at it, I really don't think his head laceration is from a bullet, unless he was somehow grazed. It just looks like a cut.


D'oh, how clumsy of me.. I completely forgot about the time gap. Stupid, stupid. Pardon that, I was practically confusing myself with all I was writing down, haha. Thanks for pointing that out. It's always helpful when we can cross something off the list for sure to avoid getting mixed up in more and more improbably theories.

I just assumed he took the pills, but I realize you're absolutely right, we have never been told for sure that he took any at all. Man, I need to start thinking things out more before posting them! I was just excited to start contributing, I suppose.

I agree with you about Alex's wound looking like a cut. I'm almost positive it is some kind of cut. The theory about Alex surviving some kind of suicide attempt was just a "crack theory" like I said. Just something to think about, I guess I'm just really perplexed by the blood and pills and everything. It's very fascinating.


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Hm, these are some pretty good theories. I dunno, maybe the blood was supposed to be fairly old, 'cause J scratched at it, and it didn't seem to come off. I'm just thinking that most blood substances you can buy or make just don't dry realistically (darken into a brownish color). In fact, I've never seen a kind that does, so we have to take this into consideration when trying to decipher its age.

Another thing I noticed is based around the fact that he changed the tape after 32 minutes. So, what, he changed it, then stared into the camera, and at the end...turned the whole camera off? Alex turning the camera off at this point, even though it had a new tape inside after he had been obsessively taping himself nonstop previously would be a significant event. Likewise, if J cut the tape between when Alex turned out the light and when he's staring into the lens, and the very end of 14 is when Alex actually changed tapes, then there would be a point where Alex gets up again and waits for the present tape runs out. This would focus a possibility of suspicion on J, because what if there was something important in the missing footage.

Does that make sense?

It's a bit convoluted, and perhaps I'm over-analysing it, but something struck me as fishy the more I thought about it.


Yeah, it completely slipped my mind that he scratched at it and it was dry (not to mention the time gap I forgot too)... I'll get better at this, haha!

But you know, your mentioning Alex just turning off the tape really sounded off alarm bells for me, since it is incredibly odd for him to just switch it off after being so fanatic about having himself on film whenever he could. Especially since he seems unnerved and seems to be looking at something specific off-camera. Not to mention the fact that he's bleeding. You'd think that if there was something there, he'd want to capture whatever happened on film!

The more I think about it, the harder it is not to put at least some suspicion on J. Especially since now we have reason to believe he has forgotten some important things. Isn't it possible that he has erased, destroyed, omitted, or edited important footage but does not remember doing so?


Haha, yeah, no problem dude. I'm sorry if I sounded rude or something, I didn't mean to shoot down all your ideas or anything. =P

Also, I sometimes forget this isn't IRL so I suppose it is possible that it's the same blood, or rather, from the same time, I just don't see how that kind of mess could have been made from that small of a wound. It really looks like cough-up/throw up to me.

As for the Slender Man having a gun thing... no. It's completely out of place and I don't see anything remotely resembling a gun (or even alluding to a gun) in any of the Entries (aside from the casing, but that was from a larger weapon than a handgun). I also think it's impossible or at the very least extremely unlikely that that was Alex. Take into consideration the height of SM as he enters the room, and the time it would take him to remove all of his business suit attire off-camera. I just don't think it happened.

EDIT: I watched Entry #14 again, and yes, I can see how you could think it's a gun, but it's his hand. He bends it ever so slightly when he puts it on the door frame.

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I always thought those were thumbs but he wouldn't have thumbs right? D: not sure. I suppose I suck at paying attention to detail. I think Alex did try to suicide at some point....what if he recorded those 32 minutes on another tape? idk

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