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There could be loads of hidden messages out there, things you wouldnt imagine of even guessing,

also, the recipe image is different, it has a picture of a face and hidden text which you cant read properly if you mess around with the colour....

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I see the word the and that is about it right now.

eta: in the source are:

img src="recipetrue.jpg"
So this is the full one obviously.

alt="how many were supposed to see this?"

and

<!-- What's even worse is that there are more -->
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Gah, brilliant work A Champ! Such a simple solution you'd think everyone would have got it right away... nice thinking outside the box there. I'm going to start searching for other pages now. I'm sure his other errors are probably intentional and may be clues.

I sent him an email last night. He Twittered today but I got no reply to my email, so he could be avoiding it or just hasn't got around to answering yet... We'll see.
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kevrock wrote:
OMG, anything having to do w/ Twin Peaks gives me a geekgasm. Smile


Me too! I can hardly stay in my seat! Man, I'd love a nice piece of cherry pie.

Nice job A Champ... so temporal time travel hmmm...there have been a couple games related to this, however with Vicarious' excellent description on dissociative disorder it seems less important.

Just something I'm still a having trouble wrapping my grape around, is this the journal of the Watcher of Carl or Carl or Hatshoe the emailer or someone completely different?
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I told HS:

Quote:
the rest of the recipe has been found.


he replied with:

Quote:
Thank you!
Now we can finally move ahead.
You have my appreciation.

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whitecross8 wrote:

Nice job A Champ... so temporal time travel hmmm...there have been a couple games related to this, however with Vicarious' excellent description on dissociative disorder it seems less important.

Just something I'm still a having trouble wrapping my grape around, is this the journal of the Watcher of Carl or Carl or Hatshoe the emailer or someone completely different?


Thanks much, I really enjoy psychology so I leapt at the chance to explore the possiblilty of mental illness' role in Hatshoe. Let's not rule anything out completely though!

But your last point really jumpstarted my brain because I never really questioned that Watcher of Carl is our narrator/author/emailer. But is there a possibility that the author of the entries IS Carl, and someone else is watching HIM, that someone else being the emailer/Twitterer?... Is there a way we can confirm that Watcher of Carl is also the author of the entries?

teh_lisa wrote:
I told HS:

Quote:
the rest of the recipe has been found.


he replied with:

Quote:
Thank you!
Now we can finally move ahead.
You have my appreciation.


Ohh, maybe we're getting somewhere!
How did you contact him? He seems to be ingnoring the email I sent him.
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Just through email. Some he answers and some he does not.

I emailed him back and told him I was thinking of following the directions.
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teh_lisa wrote:
Just through email. Some he answers and some he does not.

I emailed him back and told him I was thinking of following the directions.


Good idea. I'm starting to suspect that to progress further, someone needs to follow that Recipe.
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HS:

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Please send me pictures if you do!
I've only ever seen three different models.


To which I replied:
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Can you draw them? I would like mine to be unique yet still be true to form and function.

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I found the face A Champ was mentioning. I think it says HELP. I'll keep working on a clearer version.
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It says a whole lot. I am still playing with it but I for certain see part that says something like "the eyes were what gave the whole thing away it was like they weren't even part of the face". You need to rotate the image on its side.

eta: I also see "there was something about the neck" and "I might/don't remember being/seeing a mouth(?)" and maybe something like "the eyes/head just stared". It is obviously a drawing of a person who something has happened to and notes about those changes?

eta2: there also looks to be something (an image or a stain) on the bottom right corner if you are looking at the original orientation. (man I am really bored at work today it seems Smile
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Catalog of punctuation, etc. errors I see in the documents:

Castles
- last "s" in assassins is scratched out
- no period at the end of the last sentence
Breathing
- its instead of it's
Sleepwalk
- double without
X-Com
- no period at end of "fucking jackhammer"
- ignoring various seemingly intentional errors ("WAT!")
Chest Hair
- crossed out: "And feel badass enough to take my wooly armaments to the gates of Valhalla"
Favourite Thing:
- scratched out error in the word "the"
Sleeping Pill:
- many errors, sloppy document; e.g. "purified" instead of "purifier"
Weird Movie:
- interupts
Station:
- losing words and letters from sentence to sentence
- scratched out "V are", maybe "We are"?
Door Unlock:
- various errors, sloppy: scratched out "sp"
- scratched out "I"
- scratched out "don't ever w"
- others: "at", "do" scratched out
Notes:
- "background isn't": no period
Spider:
- "loct" scratched out
- error in "n" in now
Bone:
- Skeleter
Outlander:
- interesting
- "like so many other things in this movie" scratched out
Dog Lady:
- with
Natural:
- Evasion capitalized
Recipe:
- pour all of salt: missing "the"
- Pour 1 1/2 of the water: missing "cups"
- aluminum
- mirrors
Baking Soda:
- odd capitalization
- scratched out poor, wise
Love:
- scratched out underneath "she", can't tell what it says
Grave:
- Kurt Cobain


Feel free to add to this list.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:14 pm
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Sleeping pill also seems to have the bottom cut off, like recipe.

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lostthegame wrote:
Sleeping pill also seems to have the bottom cut off, like recipe.


Good call, I hadn't noticed there are only 2 holes in the paper.
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This is my reading of the image:

"The head just ended

The eyes are what gave the whole thing away. It was like they weren't even part of the face.

I do not remember seeing a (??)

There was something about the neck"

Also, probably irrelevant but interesting note: recipe.jpg is *not* just a crop of recipetrue.jpg with the overlaid words. If you try to subtract the images from each other you'll see they don't quite line up. Either Hatshoe scanned the paper two separate times, or somehow in messing with the image he ended up moving things around, or ... ?

I should mention that I have been receiving messages from Hatshoe. I haven't disclosed them here because I promised him/her I wouldn't (in the hopes that would make him/her open up more). It's possible that I'm the one he has mentioned as "not finding the bright". I could never figure out what any of his messages meant, really, which is why I didn't post. But the character of his messages was positive.

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