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Woodrow wrote:
'Hostile prescences'

I'm relatively new posting here, but I have been following the ARG here for a while, practically since it began. I have a bit of a theory on what's going on, related to the line hostile prescences.

What was it J found in Entry 16 at the house? Didn't he find a bullet casing of some kind? That means a gun was probably at some point fired within the house...maybe, at Slender Man?

I believe there was a picture found at one point, by J or otherwise, of a man with a blank face save for a red hole in the center. Perhaps he blood that was seen in Entry 16 is NOT vomit or human blood, but simply the WAY in which Slender Man bleeds?

I'm thinking that Signal means TTA WANTS J to show back up, so he can tell him something important, reveal some information, or otherwise assist J. I also believe TTA is crazy, but a form of ally, or at least neautral in some way.

However, he mentions that there are 'hostile prescences' which J will have to face. Slender Man, perhaps? Mabye this is why TTA's videos are so cryptic; he's being constantly harassed by Slender Man, moreso than anyone we've seen, and so he cannot outright reveal information to J for fear of what Slender Man might do.

HUGE amount of speculation on my part, but it would make things interesting, in my mind. Smile


I think TTA is evil. He clearly mocked J when he fell, and he was lurking like a creeper D: he probably set up the whole thing to get J to come. But why? He could have welcomed J in as a guest and explained everything or just have gave him the information. If you say he's being all secretive with his videos to keep any detection from SM off of him, I think that's bull because when J was inside the video was going all funky..and if Alex lived there then SM clearly is around D:

Eh..well I read this fictional fantasy book series called The Demonata which has nothing to do with SM but it's just a series about demons. There are some people who summon demons because they think they'll get some kind of reward or power...and I kind of think TTA is someone like that D: maybe he summoned SM or lured him on or something.

Maybe MH is not like that but I don't like thinking TTA as a "good guy".

Random note: Alex Kralie...did he have a middle name? totheark.....ARK - Alex R. Krailie.

idk, I saw something like that on a TTA video comment.[/i]

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stormoftara
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J said before he didn't remember Alex's middle name.

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MrHawthorne
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So I've been a lurker for a while, thought I should join in.

The first video to be posted by totheark was a response to Entry #9, which always made me think that it was very significant.

Those boxes of slashes, and that misaligned CLOSELY, I couldn't dicipher.

Then came Operator and the rest of the videos we've seen. Has anyone thought that maybe totheark was the one character we've only had a glimpse of that was totally written off?

The camera /operator/ in Entry #9?

This mysterious person really hasn't been introduced or talked about, but here's the kicker that got me thinking. That day the operator brought /his/, as Alex clearly pointed out, dog. The only other mention of a dog was rocky (Entry #2). It was strange that Alex kept saying we throoughout that entry. Who else was there? J doesn't mention anyone else.

Perhaps, its the operator? Rocky, is his dog? Maybe this is when Alex and the operator first were targeted by the Slender Man?

I think the operator Entry #9 is ToTheArk, and he was entangled with Alex in this Slender Man Debacle. Perhaps they argued about methods of dealing with the Slender Man.

Alex seems driven to get the Slender Man on tape and puts himself into situations to get the Slender Man closer. Maybe the Operator didn't want to do that, hence he brings his dog along and turns off the tape in the middle of taping.

Well now I'm rambling. Am I looking way to into this?

Also I looked closely at Entry #9 convinced Slender Man was somewhere in there. I saw a large black spot behind the girl's right shoulder when she moves out of the way.

Is this Slender Man or am I just seeing things?

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The Last Gent
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Man, why do you guys cringe at the idea of this being turned into a movie? I think it'd be awesome. A kind of Blair Witch/The Ring type deal with a mystery at the core. The story is about J discovering the tapes, and then going over them, finding the disturbing Slender Man things (J's stuff is normal movie-style, Alex's stuff is Blair Witch style) and trying to unravel the mystery. Then as he does, some of the same things start happening to him, and SM even stalks him. He realises he's in too deep, but for some reason can't stop. The film would become more twisted and surreal as it goes on and he descends into madness. I can't say how it would end yet, but I imagine some sort of mind screw.

That sounds like an awesome film plot.

And then JAF could be the sequel, focusing on unravelling the mystery of the Iraq disaster.

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I don't think Entry 18 will be the finale. If anything, it will be the beginning of the next stage of MH. So far, we have been following J's journey with totheark poking at him near the end. J's mission has been to figure out what happened to Alex that freaked him out so badly. After the first 14 entries, he got a fairly good idea of that from the tapes. Four entries later, and he's dug himself deeper into the situation via his own research.

But doesn't totheark have goals and questions too? Maybe the next stage will be totheark's journey.

And how many big reveals can they make in one Entry? I doubt the two of them will have a chat explaining the underlying plot, so it doesn't seem likely that totheark has every answer. Of course, at this point I'm just trying to justify a reason to get more MH videos Very Happy so I'm probably wrong about most of the above.

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J on twitter wrote:
The general consensus is that I should go back to the house. So I'm trying to work out a day to go. Another doctor appointment soon.

Yaaaaaaaay!

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DavFlamerock wrote:
TheAtroxious wrote:
Tell you what, you guys. Let's keep our guns to ourselves, but collectively point them at J if he refuses to do anything interesting in the next video. Pretty effective encouragement, I'd say.

I like this plan.

PS you should swing by the IRC channel from time to time.


Will do.

Woodrow wrote:
'Hostile prescences'

I'm relatively new posting here, but I have been following the ARG here for a while, practically since it began. I have a bit of a theory on what's going on, related to the line hostile prescences.

What was it J found in Entry 16 at the house? Didn't he find a bullet casing of some kind? That means a gun was probably at some point fired within the house...maybe, at Slender Man?

I believe there was a picture found at one point, by J or otherwise, of a man with a blank face save for a red hole in the center. Perhaps he blood that was seen in Entry 16 is NOT vomit or human blood, but simply the WAY in which Slender Man bleeds?

I'm thinking that Signal means TTA WANTS J to show back up, so he can tell him something important, reveal some information, or otherwise assist J. I also believe TTA is crazy, but a form of ally, or at least neautral in some way.

However, he mentions that there are 'hostile prescences' which J will have to face. Slender Man, perhaps? Mabye this is why TTA's videos are so cryptic; he's being constantly harassed by Slender Man, moreso than anyone we've seen, and so he cannot outright reveal information to J for fear of what Slender Man might do.

HUGE amount of speculation on my part, but it would make things interesting, in my mind. Smile


Uh, where did you get the information about the blank-faced figure with a hole through it? I've neither noticed or heard about that.

Yeah, I think that TTA shows some real elements of neutrality, but then again, so does SM. Actually, SM shows more neutrality than anyone else in the series. The other characters all seem to be caught up in their own little obsessions, which is where it seems the plot gets confusing. No one is giving us a straight answer, and it seems no one can really be trusted, as TTA said, because they're human. While characters like SM are alien entities who seem to just be doing what they do without being caught up in the in-fighting among the others.

I have no idea where I'm going with this. Just some more of my reasoning as to why I can't see SM as being evil.

DavFlamerock wrote:
J on twitter wrote:
The general consensus is that I should go back to the house. So I'm trying to work out a day to go. Another doctor appointment soon.

Yaaaaaaaay!


Hm. I wonder if he's been reading these boards.

It's kind of funny because I was just last night thinking about an argument to try and convince J to go to the house. Not that he would have listened, but still.

Oh! Another weird thing I've noticed.

Remember the clicking I was going on about in Entry 17? Well, I noticed it again in Entry 9, beginning at around :17, then continuing intermittently throughout the whole video. Again, it's really quiet and difficult to hear, but it is audible with noise-cancelling earbuds.

The similarities between Entries 17 and 9? Both were actually involved with the Marble Hornets movie, and both had Tim as the focus.

I'm not sure how 15 fits into this. Tim was in that, too, but I didn't hear any clicking, even upon listening for it. The only conclusions I can draw from this is that it wasn't a video intended for the MH project, and it didn't focus on Tim's face.

Am I imagining things? I can't help but see something weird here.

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The consensus does seem to be that Tim and SM are somehow connected. I was thinking about that last night, and how the man with the twisted face and Tim are the only two people seen to be smoking in the series.

But what does that mean? Is there some servant/master relationship between Tim and SM? Who is what? And to what ends?

As for the whole "ark" thing. Alex Kralie works too. A bit of a stretch, just something I noticed.

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Alright I think that I found something else that solidifies my assumption that totheark is the camera operator from entry #9.

The blocks of slashes in Regards have always been a mystery of sorts to me. Today I had an idea. I remembered that the blocks change sizes when they flash. Some thought this was morse code, but I think it's simpler than that.

From my count the first set of slashes flashes twice, the second flashes twice and the third flashes three times. All together 223.

I immediately thought that this was a timestamp, so I paused Entry #9 at 2:23, and who is in perfect view? The camera operator. Regards.

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TheAtroxious wrote:
DavFlamerock wrote:
J on twitter wrote:
The general consensus is that I should go back to the house. So I'm trying to work out a day to go. Another doctor appointment soon.

Yaaaaaaaay!


Hm. I wonder if he's been reading these boards.

[META]If he's a good PM (though here, the term seems out of place), he (or she) has been reading this forum. However, it's very likely that a lot of people did as I did--when I saw that J was having second thoughts about the house, I immediately replied via twitter & argued that he should go. So there is an in-game reason for his change of mind Wink

EDIT: Heh, it looks like I was correct.

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MrHawthorne wrote:
Alright I think that I found something else that solidifies my assumption that totheark is the camera operator from entry #9.

The blocks of slashes in Regards have always been a mystery of sorts to me. Today I had an idea. I remembered that the blocks change sizes when they flash. Some thought this was morse code, but I think it's simpler than that.

From my count the first set of slashes flashes twice, the second flashes twice and the third flashes three times. All together 223.

I immediately thought that this was a timestamp, so I paused Entry #9 at 2:23, and who is in perfect view? The camera operator. Regards.


Nice work! Sounds like an intentional clue from totheark.

More for the "totheark=cameraman" theory train. The cameraman had access to the tapes, as well as spare camera equipment to film J. Plus if SM was aggravated into bothering Team MH by filming, then the cameraman would be directly involved.

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Nice. This is the exact reason I'm debating getting a Twitter account, even if I only ever use it for MH. (I have a terrible habit of signing up for blogging sites and then never using them again. Quite like what is mentioned in JAF, actually.)

Wow. That's pretty clever, Hawthorne. 223 strikes a vague sort of recognition in me, too, but I can't put my finger on it.

'Course, the obvious answer is that, translated into letters, it spells out "BBC". But somehow I don't think that's what the reference is supposed to be.

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I would like to add my voice to the operator=totheark chorus. A vague sense has been building in me for a while that whoever TTA is, it's first of all somebody very much human and flesh and blood, although potentially insane. Someone that was intimately involved in the events 3 years ago, but (most importantly) someone that J (and, by extension, us) has forgotten about. At first I thought that was implausible because I figured if such a person existed they would have come up by now. But now that we know that there is some amnesia involved, I really think that there was someone involved in MH that everyone (or at least J) has simply forgotten about. And the operator is a logical choice. For some reason this person is still around but scared of openly engaging J, either some facet of his insanity or a genuine fear of beating eaten for SM breakfast, or both.

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The general consensus is that I should go back to the house. So I'm trying to work out a day to go. Another doctor appointment soon.about 4 hours ago from web


I think J should film himself at the doctors office so we know whats up

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TheAtroxious wrote:
DavFlamerock wrote:
TheAtroxious wrote:
Tell you what, you guys. Let's keep our guns to ourselves, but collectively point them at J if he refuses to do anything interesting in the next video. Pretty effective encouragement, I'd say.

I like this plan.

PS you should swing by the IRC channel from time to time.


Will do.

Woodrow wrote:
'Hostile prescences'

I'm relatively new posting here, but I have been following the ARG here for a while, practically since it began. I have a bit of a theory on what's going on, related to the line hostile prescences.

What was it J found in Entry 16 at the house? Didn't he find a bullet casing of some kind? That means a gun was probably at some point fired within the house...maybe, at Slender Man?

I believe there was a picture found at one point, by J or otherwise, of a man with a blank face save for a red hole in the center. Perhaps he blood that was seen in Entry 16 is NOT vomit or human blood, but simply the WAY in which Slender Man bleeds?

I'm thinking that Signal means TTA WANTS J to show back up, so he can tell him something important, reveal some information, or otherwise assist J. I also believe TTA is crazy, but a form of ally, or at least neautral in some way.

However, he mentions that there are 'hostile prescences' which J will have to face. Slender Man, perhaps? Mabye this is why TTA's videos are so cryptic; he's being constantly harassed by Slender Man, moreso than anyone we've seen, and so he cannot outright reveal information to J for fear of what Slender Man might do.

HUGE amount of speculation on my part, but it would make things interesting, in my mind. Smile


Uh, where did you get the information about the blank-faced figure with a hole through it? I've neither noticed or heard about that.

Yeah, I think that TTA shows some real elements of neutrality, but then again, so does SM. Actually, SM shows more neutrality than anyone else in the series. The other characters all seem to be caught up in their own little obsessions, which is where it seems the plot gets confusing. No one is giving us a straight answer, and it seems no one can really be trusted, as TTA said, because they're human. While characters like SM are alien entities who seem to just be doing what they do without being caught up in the in-fighting among the others.

I have no idea where I'm going with this. Just some more of my reasoning as to why I can't see SM as being evil.

DavFlamerock wrote:
J on twitter wrote:
The general consensus is that I should go back to the house. So I'm trying to work out a day to go. Another doctor appointment soon.

Yaaaaaaaay!


Hm. I wonder if he's been reading these boards.

It's kind of funny because I was just last night thinking about an argument to try and convince J to go to the house. Not that he would have listened, but still.

Oh! Another weird thing I've noticed.

Remember the clicking I was going on about in Entry 17? Well, I noticed it again in Entry 9, beginning at around :17, then continuing intermittently throughout the whole video. Again, it's really quiet and difficult to hear, but it is audible with noise-cancelling earbuds.

The similarities between Entries 17 and 9? Both were actually involved with the Marble Hornets movie, and both had Tim as the focus.

I'm not sure how 15 fits into this. Tim was in that, too, but I didn't hear any clicking, even upon listening for it. The only conclusions I can draw from this is that it wasn't a video intended for the MH project, and it didn't focus on Tim's face.

Am I imagining things? I can't help but see something weird here.


That circle with the hole thing in it is from JAF. It's in the notebook that Dav has. I doubt it has any relevance here.

As for the camera man thing, at first I was skeptical, but that does make a lot of sense. I've seen movies where it turns out the mystery character who helps/hinders the protagonist is often someone who is easily unnoticed, but still important. I'm gonna roll with this theory for now. =P

EDIT: I found the picture of it.
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