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TheAtroxious
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But he'll always be my "Unnamed Camera Dude," even when he gets a name.

I think you misheard "saving" as "Sammy". Alex goes on about "saving time on the tapes," which I could easily see as being confused.

Also, I'd agree with you on the voice being deeper. Camera Dude has a deeper voice than anyone else on MH it seems, so that's a decent indicator to go by.

Also, just noticed this, but I think it's Alex going on about Camera Dude bringing his dog quite out of the blue. This struck me as a bit strange when Alex's dog had a fit at seeing SM, and Alex supposedly had dead animals lying on his doorstep. Associating (potential) TTA with a dog just seems to be a bit of an oddity.

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Damnit I think it IS "saving." D: nooo. Cameraguy is a pain to type, as is Camera Dude. And we're not 100% it's TTA so I can't even use that.

I wonder about the dog thing SO MUCH. But I seriously have no clue what's being conveyed there unless Cameraguy (sigh) is in fact already aware of SM at this time, and is using his dog as a sort of early detection system (if we assume all dogs behave like Rocky did). That doesn't seem likely to me, and it's a HUGE stretch and entirely speculative but that is the only straw I am grasping at. Although: possibly the guy brought his dog, just 'cause, and Alex was so distraught about it, although not because it was irresponsible or unprofessional, he chose that high-stress moment to say something. Why distraught? Not a clue. Maybe he doesn't want SM to know he's filming for him and he's worried about the dog blowing his cover and barking its head off if he shows up? Maybe there really were dogs being mutilated (although according to J Rocky made it out safely) and he was worried for the dog? Maybe maybe maybe...?

I hate idle speculation. I just hate it.

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Ugly Myfanwe wrote:
I went back and watched #12 (to refresh, the "hey buddy" video where SM is standing on set) and the associated TTA reply, on the assumption that TTA = camera operator is an accurate theory. I may be re-posting something that we already know or missing something vital, but just glancing over the two of them (feel free to pick this apart), I noticed a few things.

If we try to account for everyone present at the time, we get:

Alex (blue shirt) - voice and plenty of visuals
??? (navy blue shirt) - Brian? Someone help me here; he doesn't have Tim's awesomesexy sideburns, okay. It looks like Brian to me.
Girl - Sarah character, probably? We only hear her voice.
???? (bright green shirt) - walks through the frame at the beginning, also is potentially person asking Alex questions about the shot, although that could maybe be Brian.
Slender man (business suit, wut) - visuals.

Alex tells someone to handle the camera, and up until now I think we all sort of assumed it was the girl, especially since the camera swings towards SM as she asks "what's he doing?" (although I, like some people, believe that we can't assume she's asking about SM, and not Alex--we don't know).

So plenty of people have decided Green Shirt = Cameraguy from #9, I'm not doing anything new or exciting here. And then:

TTA's reply tells us "there was more."

Was this Green Shirt telling us that he actually remembers this day, and that more happened after the camera abruptly cuts off?

Additionally, what caused the distortion? Was it SM, or was it the cameraman's contact when he gets ready for shooting?

I went and listened to and Green Shirt and Cameraguy both say "OK" in the videos. I compared it and yeah, it's only two syllables, but the voice is close.

I made this to compare the two guys, just for clarity, although, again, Green Shirt = Cameraguy is pretty well accepted at this point I think:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn277/mousesong/operator.jpg

You can see that the bangs are pretty distinctive, and what you can see of the nose is a close match. I wish we had a better view of the ear--Cameraguy has a distinctive ear, and if Green Shirt had just shown us a biiiit more I'd feel more comfortable with this.

So I know, at least among the people I've chatted with, we idly tossed around if Green Shirt = Cameraguy back a couple of months ago, but we weren't sure, and also weren't sure if it mattered. I feel pretty sure it matters, especially if we can establish that Green Shirt = Cameraguy = TTA, because it makes the "There Was More" comment make more sense.

Long, rambly post rehashes ground already abundantly covered! Very Happy


Aww man, are you kidding me? Rofl, I typed out a long winded speculation thing regarding Entry #12 and the Camera guy very similar to yours and changed my mind and trashed it before posting. D=

One of my points was, this (copied from my typed out speech which I saved just in case =P)

"I wonder if, in Entry #12, there was something substantial or incriminating even that J decided to leave out. For the most part, J has a comment at the end of the clips he shows us, but not for Entry #12. totheark says "THEREWASM0RE" in Impurity; the response to Entry #12. Furthermore, I am convinced that whether or not it was caught on film, something must have happened, because Alex actually walks right up to Slender Man and tries to get him off the set. I don't imagine Alex saying "Hey buddy, we're filming here, would it be too much trouble if you were to go be creepy somewhere else?" to which Slender Man would reply "Oh! Frightfully sorry, old chap! I do believe I shall evacuate the premises immediately!".

The fact that totheark knew there was more alone doesn't imply that he/she was there that day. I knew there was more, and I wasn't there. But, the fact that he tells J (as opposed to one of us asking) that there was more implies that not only does he know J left something out that was on the tape, but that he/she was there."

I trashed it because I realized that conflicted with my theory on the Camera Guy being totheark, but now it's actually apparent that he was probably there! I just thought that Mr. Greenshirt was Brian or Alex, I wasn't paying attention to their shirts.

EDIT: Also, more contributing to the probability that Mr. Greenshirt is the same Camera Guy from Entry #9 and Suspect Numero Uno for totheark's identity: Alex says "Uh, let's go ahead and get this shot..." to which Mr. Greenshirt definitely replies "Okay.", thus implying that he was operating the camera (or at least part of the filming aspect of the crew). Still speculation, but I think it adds. Also, I'm sorry if this was mentioned and I missed it; Myfanwe's post excited me so I kind of rush-read the other posts. And now, back to watching Dexter. =P

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I used to be scared of Slender Man, but now you've got image in my head of him talking in a Ye Olde English accent. Damn you to hell!

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http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn277/mousesong/operator.jpg
hmm
they look simmilar, but what about that line of hair in between the red circle and the ear of greenshirt?
cameraguy doesn't seem to have it

and has noone considered GIRL=TTA?
she[probably] was there at entry 7 as well

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chaos wrote:
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn277/mousesong/operator.jpg
hmm
they look simmilar, but what about that line of hair in between the red circle and the ear of greenshirt?
cameraguy doesn't seem to have it


Maybe he has a bad haircut and it's only on one side xD

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Jesus, the cameraguy in entry 9 would make an awesome TTA.
when he looked at the camera with that creepy smile, it gave me the chills.
he seems sly and sneaky, sort of like Smeagel from LOTR
damn i hope he is TTA

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chaos wrote:
and has noone considered GIRL=TTA?
she[probably] was there at entry 7 as well


It's something I've definitely considered, and I think that would be awesome, but I think more clues point to Unnamed Camera Guy than to her at this point.
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Zepho wrote:
chaos wrote:
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn277/mousesong/operator.jpg
hmm
they look simmilar, but what about that line of hair in between the red circle and the ear of greenshirt?
cameraguy doesn't seem to have it


Maybe he has a bad haircut and it's only on one side xD


I should really just cave and get an account.

Anyway: this worries me too, and it kept me from posting my post for a long time, actually. I'm really quite concerned about it. Then again, I can't tell if it's some sort of shadow or the indention of the jaw from the brief shot. But it does bug me.

Then again it's also a different angle from #9.

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Re: WHEREIS THECAMERAMAN

tetsuyabh wrote:
I think this theory is extremely plausible. It explains a couple of things that make totheark less omnipotent and more realistic.

First, we know that Alex uses a different camera, his own, to surveille himself at all times. Tim mentions this during Entry #15. A common problem with the "totheark is Alex" theory is that Alex must have been in two places at the same time in order to film J while he retrieved batteries from Alex's car in Exit. This dilemma arises because Alex takes his own camera with him when he encounters Slenderman. But, if a second camera were present during the events of Entry #13, the official Marble Hornets camera, this would explain how J could have been filmed.

Second, totheark somehow has access to Marble Hornets principal photography that has not been posted to the Internet, as can be seen in Advocate. This leaves only two possibilities for totheark's identity: Alex, or the unnamed camera operator for Marble Hornets.

Third, that smirk is creepy. If totheark was aware of Slenderman during the filming of Marble Hornets, he may have been sending hidden messages even as early as principal photography. This smirk may be entirely intentional, and, so may have been turning off the camera in Entry #9.


ok here's my off the wall guess as to the solution of MH (i'm pretty much kidding with all this, but it'd be pretty funny if it turned out right haha). so j is actually slenderman. alex is having hallucinations of some sort and thinks that his friend visiting his house or helping him film is actually slenderman in his mind trying to cause him harm. theres also some room for time travel in this! ok all the entrys that are alex at his house at night, thats when j came to his house to investigate in the present (if only slightly different in some minor ways). and in entry 13 when j goes to get more batteries, alex runs away from j, and j's just like "alex, alex, whats wrong, why are you running from me?" j/slenderman is some sort of pandimensional being, he's experiencing things out of order and as different entities.

there is no counter argument to this theory, its flawless! haha

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on a serious note though, the cameraguy as "operator"/totheark seems like a pretty valid theory. i'm not sure about the smirk thing though, i think people can just make a face like that on accident sometimes. something does happen in his face, but i dont see it as creepy, just one of those human things. everyone there was aggrevated at the time, and the operator has a pretty easy job and he's getting chewed out for messing up. if it were me and it was an honest mistake i'd be pretty pissed myself, and might make some sort of face on purpose or on accident, and in this case that face just so happened to be while he was glancing at the camera.

really though its a good theory that he's the operator, and he does seem a bit shady in some way (just not the "smirk" for me at least).

also, i havent had the time to post this since i had it, but i had a bad dream about this the other night. i'm pretty concerned for j, even though its a game haha, but in my dream i was really concerned for him, and now i really believe he shouldn't go to the house alone, i think something bad will happen if he does. i dont know exactly what it would change though... i mean supernatural things are happening, and strength in numbers never helps much in those situations haha.

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Alright, camera guy is TTA.

Camera guy doesn't seem brainfucked in the brief moments we see him. Gradual thing over time? Or is it an act?

I'm still convinced that SM and somebody are in a servant/master relationship. I guess that still could be SM/TTA, since neither have really revealed themselves to be malicious. Well, not yet anyway. Except for Alex going crazy, but that's more of a side effect thing.

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I guess no one thought that TTA could be Brian? There currently is nothing against it, and I believe that there are a few things that could go along with it.

First off:

For Exit,TTA was filming J while he and Alex were location scouting. Alex went ahead, and J went to get film from the car. Now, I was wondering, was Brian present there that day? So I messaged MarbleHornets and got this response.

Quote:
Re: Brian, Where was he?
Brian was not there when Alex and I were location scouting. It was only me and him.

-J.


This can fit the whole Brian filmed J while Alex ran into Slender Man at that football field (?).

Second:

In TTA's Advocate, it is the scene where you see SM after Brian is finishing his lines, following Alex freaking out a bit. You would think that because all of Advocate is focused on Brian, it would mean something.

Third:

I believe that Brian was present in Entry 12 (Black Shirt). Comparing Black Shirt with Brian in Entry 7 was pretty easy. Take a look at this picture:



They both have a tannish hair color. The side burns do not go past mid-ear. The jaw is very similar on both.

This means that Brian would know that "there was more". It also means that there is no current evidence against this theory.

Take it, or leave it.

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i can't really see blackshirt's jaw...

and to be honest, there's nothing disproving TTA being anyone involved in the film...

except J i guess

unless he somehow set a camera up on a wall or soemthing

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Sorry guys, I haven't had time to read every page of this thread. I don't know if this has been pointed out yet, but somebody on Youtube noted that Alex's name is Alex R. Kraile. Where they got the 'R', I'll never know.

This was probably pointed out ages ago, but that would make his initials 'ARK'. This would likely rule out TTA actually being Alex, because it seem like TTA is also looking for 'the ark'.

Metaphorically, an ark is perceived as a saviour, more specifically from a deluge or a flood. This would imply that Slenderman is after Alex because he is the only person who can stop him. If in fact those are his initials, it would seem fairly obvious in the context of the series.

Sorry if this is nothing new to you guys. Embarassed

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