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kevrock
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jaeger138 wrote:
I agree that it could be a person or state but it's a bit ambiguous, considering who we're dealing with. But the previous post does use the words 'in the clear' which would tie in with a state of normality


Hmmm.... this got me thinking. You mentioned the phrase "in the clear"; that phrase has special meaning in cryptography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_clear

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I don't think anyone has mentioned the picture on Twitter. Who do you suppose is Carl in that picture? If it is the guy in the black tshirt can you read what it says? I can't and is that a mime sitting on the fountain? I think is an odd picture considering the subject.


I don't see a mime, but I did notice this: if you view the image's properties, the name of the file is carlrivers_bigger.jpg

So who is Carl Rivers?


As they say in the NFL, after further review, not a mime maybe a musician or guy eating a turkey leg. However I did see something in the pic with big zoom on, a FOUS, a face of unusual size. I sure you don't think they exist but straight to the right of the guy in the light blue jacket looking right at the camera with a beard. Inconceivable you say and yet... Maybe that is why it is Carl Rivers bigger.
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 		Run with that kevrock, keep the cogs turning and see if you can figure something out for us. And when I said I haven't tried destegging, I just meant with Hatshoe's images, lol. I've done it before but thanks for the page! The only problem I have is steg detection, I don't know how to use the software as it doesn't seem to like working on my Vista laptop. I have camouflage but wouldn't be able to do any detection so if someone could do that for all the pages, the twitter image and the scanned emails that would be great.

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 		actually, i can kinda see a mime >_>
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kevrock
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whitecross8 wrote:
However I did see something in the pic with big zoom on, a FOUS, a face of unusual size. I sure you don't think they exist but straight to the right of the guy in the light blue jacket looking right at the camera with a beard. Inconceivable you say and yet... Maybe that is why it is Carl Rivers bigger.


It took me a while to see what you were referring to, but when I did... wow! Its most likely total apophenia, but check out the pix below...
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 		Okay I don't know what happened maybe the Bethesda thing but suddenly WoC has 51 followers. Some are the usual bimbos and twits but one is from a fake Vlad Putin. The account was created Oct 16 and is only following WoC not the usual list of spamees. They sent a tweet to WoC Sunday:

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@WatcherofCarl COMRADE! You are being too secretive like the fat sneaky capitalist pigs. The people demand the answer of truth


There are only 2 other tweets the first about sitting around drinking vodka and the other to this guy:

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Name Stephen Toulouse
Location Seattle
Web http://www.stepto...
Bio Director of Policy and Enforcement for Xbox LIVE, writer, PR and political junkie, Rock Band video game rocker. Be pure. Be vigilant. Behave!

@Stepto You get those capitalist pigs! Lay down the glorious hammer of Soviet Microsoft!


Probably much like in the movie 'Clue' communism is just a red herring but I think its interesting.

My thought for checking the followers is, why is WoC tweeting Carl if Carl isn't following him?

Does WoC think he is verbally talking to Carl or is Carl following under an alias or IS (again bumbumbum) WoC communicating with Carl, his other personality, via Twitter instead of a journal. I think this is quite likely and puts some of the recent statements like plans and situations in perspective.
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 		I just figured out that the image's "_bigger" suffix isn't unique to Carl, but appears to be a function of Twitter. If you view the image properties of any person on their page it adds that tag, where if you view the slightly smaller version in a list of Twitter account its flagged with a "_normal" suffix. I assume there's a "_smaller" one out there, too.

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whitecross8 wrote:
Probably much like in the movie 'Clue' communism is just a red herring but I think its interesting.


Actually, maybe not: could Carl = Karl Marx?

whitecross8 wrote:

Name Stephen Toulouse
Location Seattle
Web http://www.stepto...
Bio Director of Policy and Enforcement for Xbox LIVE, writer, PR and political junkie, Rock Band video game rocker. Be pure. Be vigilant. Behave!


This part makes sense: that info is about a real dude who made an infamous statement about Apple needing to get a "security czar" (Czar, get it?) So that explains why they used that info in conjunction w/ satirical communist rhetoric.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Toulouse

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kevrock wrote:
I just figured out that the image's "_bigger" suffix isn't unique to Carl, but appears to be a function of Twitter. If you view the image properties of any person on their page it adds that tag, where if you view the slightly smaller version in a list of Twitter account its flagged with a "_normal" suffix. I assume there's a "_smaller" one out there, too.


And if you leave off the suffix entirely, you get the largest image of all.

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kevrock
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Molnar wrote:
kevrock wrote:
I just figured out that the image's "_bigger" suffix isn't unique to Carl, but appears to be a function of Twitter. If you view the image properties of any person on their page it adds that tag, where if you view the slightly smaller version in a list of Twitter account its flagged with a "_normal" suffix. I assume there's a "_smaller" one out there, too.


And if you leave off the suffix entirely, you get the largest image of all.


Thanks! See below:
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kevrock wrote:
Actually, maybe not: could Carl = Karl Marx?


(Yes, I know I'm quoting myself)

OK, this has got to be a coincidence, but...

I found 2 instances of Karl Marx's writings where he specifically talks about hats and shoes.

This one go into details on specific quantities (lots of numbers) of hat and shoe makers (among others) [top of page]:

http://books.google.com/books?id=rl8gQj6llyQC&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=karl+marx+hat+shoe&source=bl&ots=ex53BXNfek&sig=M8zoYfhEGVN0QwpnQbazKl4i1wQ&hl=en&ei=Su75SvvtBMT_nAeflryGDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBYQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

But this one actually goes into a specific anecdote about the cost of a hat vs the cost of a shoe [bottom of page in footnote]:

http://books.google.com/books?id=48TVeM0hFiUC&pg=PA284&lpg=PA284&dq=karl+marx+hat+shoe&source=bl&ots=tigd2wnvwf&sig=NTFVP0InHDMB1LNoL1gHh88AJXU&hl=en&ei=Su75SvvtBMT_nAeflryGDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Again, this has got to be a coincidence... right?

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 		^circle with red picture...
[how do you make attachments anyway?]

that's the back of someone's head >_>

the mime i see is slightly more up-left
EDIT: still no reply from hatshoe, normally, not a problem, but i want to doodle some :/
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 		Been messing around on the hatshoe website for a while now, but just realized there was a thread here. I had an interesting conversation with hatshoe.

Me:
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What exactly is that list for?

Hatshoe:
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Perhaps you can be trusted.

Almost like he avoided the question.
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Where will being trusted get me?

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If you are trusted then truths can be told.

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How do I prove my trust?

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My existence may be suspended in the near future. I will need someone to bring life back to me.

???
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How do I do that?

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There are only a few options, but I haven't decided yet.
I'll know when the right threat is made.
This may involve a commitment from more than one.

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Alright. Let me know when you decide. I'll be ready.

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Thank you.
You are a true Friend.


I haven't had time to finish reading the whole thread but I just wanted to throw this out there. I noticed is most of the contact he's had with everyone else he calls you "friend." Maybe a "true friend" has some significance to him.
Once I catch up with the thread I'll probably be of more help but until then.

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 		Wow, this clears up some big questions! Thank you Jane! So that's what he's been talking about! I'll update the wiki! This is so exciting! Some answers, finally!

Jane, you think you can tell us the dates of all those messages?

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jaeger138 wrote:
Wow, this clears up some big questions! Thank you Jane! So that's what he's been talking about! I'll update the wiki! This is so exciting! Some answers, finally!

Jane, you think you can tell us the dates of all those messages?


Wait.... so what has he been talking about?? I've been trying to follow this in order to figure out all this non sense... but i just end up getting more confused.

So what did you just figure out jaeger?

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