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[SweetHat]

Hey guys, been lurking for a while, thought I'd start posting.

I think that people might be reading far too much into this Entry. It seems pretty clear to me that J and Mask were the only two people to make an appearance in the video, and he whole 3rd party theory is on pretty shaky ground.
Here's why: J specifically states at the end of the video that he thought he might have been hallucinating, but checked his camera and saw that it recorded his attacker. This means that he definitely remembers everything up until the camera was switched off (or just before that point).
From that, we know the following things:
-Mask definitely attacked J (notice J specifically calls him "(his) attacker")
-J wasn't "pulled off" Mask by a 3rd party (since he remembers the attack, he would have remembered if he had)

J also states at the end that his knife was missing. Since we know that J remembers the attack, then we can assume that he did not stab Mask during the events of the video.


Anyway, something I feel is quite important is the way Mask acts, and the way he sets this up:

-He wears a mask as if to emulate SM's appearance
-He (may have) made the doll himself with some kind of significance
-He forces J to enter through one entrance by locking the front door
-He places a doll at the end of the corridor, almost like bait
-He places himself between J and the only exit while J is distracted by the doll
-He purposely draws J's attention
-He stays still for a few seconds, almost as if to intimidate/frighten J
-He moves towards J after J calls out to him
-He lies still, possibly to trick J into coming closer
-He seems reluctant to have his mask removed
-He grunts "no!" when J goes to remove his mask

Now these points seem important to me because they point towards two things:
1) Mask is hostile towards J
-the attack seems too well-planned to be anything else
2) Mask is NOT being controlled by SM
-he can speak, which a mind-controlled servant would most likely be unable to do
-his attack seems too well thought-out to be made by someone under mind-control, and SM himself doesn't seem to be the type for planned attacks
-his mask and doll seem like some kind of tribute to SM, which I don't think SM would be bothered with if he was controlling Mask (although that's up to personal opinion)


One final point I'd like to make is that whoever totheark is, they have access to a computer with an internet connection and video/audio editing software, and the ability to use these and a camera.

Sorry for the long post. I also typed this up before I read about J's clarification about #18, but can't be bothered going through and editing it now.

[blue5213]

[pumahawk]

seeing how much damage slenderman can do all by himself to alex makes me question mind control.

why would he need a human to do his bidding when he can obviously do it better and cleaner than anyone else. ;P

i'm with sweethat here. the whole event was so planned, J was definite the victim of an ambush. whether or not SM was involved at any point in this video is beyond any of us. i think we're stuck with a lot of speculation until a response. i can't wait. x_x

[DavFlamerock]

[blue5213]

1) Just tweeted J to ask if he'd taken the mysterious pills to the doctor with him. I fully expect to hear back, "nah, I didn't think about it."

2) Slender Man's motivations and goals are about as ambiguous as it can get. We haven't seen him do anything but stalk Alex. Maybe he just enjoys driving people insane? Maybe Masky is insane. Maybe Masky's mask protects him from SM somehow. I just think it's highly unlikely Masky would just sit there and watch J for a few seconds, then attack him. If it was a planned attack, why not sneak up behind him and attack him before he even sees you? Why didn't he attack J when he was videotaping him during his coughing fit?

TTA wants J in that house. He probably wanted J to see Masky, because there's nothing else there. The bigger question is, why? To me, it's obviously to show J what SM does to people he comes into contact with.

[TheAtroxious]

I should hope I'd know who Victor Surge is. I was just wondering if this is possibly THE Victor Surge or a cheap impostor who went around stealing the pictures and claiming to be the founder of all that is holy.

This new development really clears things up. Even if I was completely off base, it's great to hear what really happened.

I didn't notice any distortion when he picked up the doll. Do you have screencaps or audio clips to enlighten us?

Hm. I was thinking, if a lot of our theories before were off-base, maybe we should start thinking about Maskface's sudden appearance. J looked about the living room for a while, and when he saw nothing, he went into the hall. When he looked back, Maskface was sitting there. Which means he most likely has the ability to either teleport, or just be very stealthy.

Methinks there's something more to that sudden appearance than meets the eye.

Urgh. I wish I could view SA threads. For some reason they've blocked me.

[dopeoplethink]

Mind control - Points supporting it

[chaos]

[Rachiepie]

[SweetHat]

Re: Mind control - Points supporting it

[incedio]

[Future Sith]

See, I thought we had concluded (or, at least, the people in the Entry 18 thread suggested) that Tim was the masked man, what with his dark hair and mutton-chops. But apparently people are thinking that the masked man is someone we haven't seen yet? Not TTA or anyone else we know? The last thing we need is more variables, there are already too many.

Also, when the masked man was on the floor, I thought it was because J took him down. What's this spasm he had everyone's talking about?

EDIT: I also think the "robot" idea hasn't been explored nearly enough. I think it holds some substance, personally. What kind of robot? God only knows.

[TNC]

If the masked person was a robot, it could explain the spastic seisure -> Shut down -> Reboot -> Attack sequence.

[Wakka]

J posted this in the Something Awful forum:

"Some understandable confusion going on about #18, I'll try and set a few things straight if memory serves (which I can't help but think is a gamble at this point).

-Whoever was in the mask attacked me. He pushed me against the door that was locked behind me and pulled me down on the floor. I don't remember much of what he did after that, I was in a daze because I hit my head on the floor.

-After he had what looked like some kind of seizure, I tried to take his mask off. He pushed me off surprisingly hard which I'm guessing made me stumble backwards and fall.

-The knife I had with me was still in my pocket when I headed for the back door. Then it wasn't when I woke up in my car.

I'm still feeling very sore from it all. My head is killing me. "

I think we can put the stabbing theory to rest, guys.

[chaos]