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Future Sith
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chaos wrote:
how on earth do you think that robot theory could hold and water in what is basically an urban fiction? Confused


It's definitely a stretch, but we don't have much else to go off of. Then again, I suppose the story is based off of Slender Man the paranormal phenomenon and not Slender Man the evil android. >_>

I'm getting tired of entries that don't gives us any answers but only bring up more questions. Clue deprivation has some strange effects on the mind.

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New Here

I've been lurking and taking this whole thing in for a while (I think since Entry #14), and have decided to start chiming in.
Personally, I think that with the excitement built over Entry #18, people are wanting to see much more than is actually shown.

Here's what I've been able to piece together:

- J went back to the house at night (not a terribly smart move, maybe didn't have a choice?)
- Front door was locked, although it was unlocked when he left last time. This shows me that it was definitely either a trap or that Alex actually is living there. If it's the latter, then I would assume that Masky is Alex.
- Slendy doll felt to me like an extension of the art that everyone seems to compelled to make of SM. Nothing like a voodoo doll. I also felt that it was there as a distraction for J, so that Masky could set himself up on the couch.
- Masky is definitely male.
- Maksy attacked J purposefully (although I have no idea what the true purpose was. To silence J?)
- That seizure seemed like a pretty clear-cut case (along with the audio distortion and coughing) of SM involvement. Not sure if it's SM stopping Masky, or if Masky simply reacted to SM being nearby. It could also be SM's mind control futzing with Masky's brain.
- Masky has super-human strength (according to J). Another notch in the SM has something to do with this column, I think.
- J woke up parked in a wooded area. I am going to assume that that was the same general wooded area that was close to Alex's house.
- I tried, but could not find even a brief glimpse of SM in the woods.

Sorry about the long post. Also, sorry if I failed to post according to any of the standards that are assumed on this forum. This is my first ARG-ish experience.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:18 pm
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TheAtroxious wrote:
I guess we can just rely on bad MH fanfic, then. I've been wanting to write J/SM slash for a while.


"J woke up the next morning wearing nothing but a sheet. He groaned and held a hand to his forehead. He didn't remember anything of the previous night, but he felt a lingering feeling that something very, very wrong had happened. A blinking red light on his side table caught his eye. Confused and feeling sick, J reached for the camera and pressed "replay"..."

Shocked

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Re: New Here

Zukuss wrote:
Personally, I think that with the excitement built over Entry #18, people are wanting to see much more than is actually shown.


No kidding. Like I said, I'm tired of this minimalism they insist on keeping to.

Zukuss wrote:
Here's what I've been able to piece together:

- J went back to the house at night (not a terribly smart move, maybe didn't have a choice?)
- Front door was locked, although it was unlocked when he left last time. This shows me that it was definitely either a trap or that Alex actually is living there. If it's the latter, then I would assume that Masky is Alex.
- Slendy doll felt to me like an extension of the art that everyone seems to compelled to make of SM. Nothing like a voodoo doll. I also felt that it was there as a distraction for J, so that Masky could set himself up on the couch.
- Masky is definitely male.
- Maksy attacked J purposefully (although I have no idea what the true purpose was. To silence J?)
- That seizure seemed like a pretty clear-cut case (along with the audio distortion and coughing) of SM involvement. Not sure if it's SM stopping Masky, or if Masky simply reacted to SM being nearby. It could also be SM's mind control futzing with Masky's brain.
- Masky has super-human strength (according to J). Another notch in the SM has something to do with this column, I think.
- J woke up parked in a wooded area. I am going to assume that that was the same general wooded area that was close to Alex's house.
- I tried, but could not find even a brief glimpse of SM in the woods.


This is a pretty good summary and a good list to go from when discussing Entry #18. And don't worry, you're not violating any guidelines, welcome to the forum!

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Re: New Here

Future Sith wrote:
Zukuss wrote:
Personally, I think that with the excitement built over Entry #18, people are wanting to see much more than is actually shown.


No kidding. Like I said, I'm tired of this minimalism they insist on keeping to.

Zukuss wrote:
Here's what I've been able to piece together:

- J went back to the house at night (not a terribly smart move, maybe didn't have a choice?)
- Front door was locked, although it was unlocked when he left last time. This shows me that it was definitely either a trap or that Alex actually is living there. If it's the latter, then I would assume that Masky is Alex.
- Slendy doll felt to me like an extension of the art that everyone seems to compelled to make of SM. Nothing like a voodoo doll. I also felt that it was there as a distraction for J, so that Masky could set himself up on the couch.
- Masky is definitely male.
- Maksy attacked J purposefully (although I have no idea what the true purpose was. To silence J?)
- That seizure seemed like a pretty clear-cut case (along with the audio distortion and coughing) of SM involvement. Not sure if it's SM stopping Masky, or if Masky simply reacted to SM being nearby. It could also be SM's mind control futzing with Masky's brain.
- Masky has super-human strength (according to J). Another notch in the SM has something to do with this column, I think.
- J woke up parked in a wooded area. I am going to assume that that was the same general wooded area that was close to Alex's house.
- I tried, but could not find even a brief glimpse of SM in the woods.


This is a pretty good summary and a good list to go from when discussing Entry #18. And don't worry, you're not violating any guidelines, welcome to the forum!

Thanks!
One thing that was frustrating about #18 is that I really wanted to think that Masky was TTA, but I have no way of showing that. It was just my initial reaction, "Oh, there's a guy in a mask... I'll bet that's TTA. Hmmm... he's attacking, I wonder if that's why TTA lured him back to the house."
Of course, it could be any number of people.
In order of likelihood, here's who I think Masky is:
1. TTA. It just seems like the obvious choice to me.
2. Alex. Seems like it's his house, he might have gone overboard. Also, who's to say that Alex and TTA are not one in the same?
3. Tim. Possible, but I really don't see the sideburns that everyone keeps talking about.
4. Brian. Where's Brian?
5. Anonymous tipster. I kinda like that, but we have no idea who the tipster is.
I am eagerly awaiting TTA's response.

Edit: Actually, my initial reaction was "WTF, is that SM? Oh, no, it's a guy in a mask... oh [crap] he's attacking! Well, now it's time to change my pants."
Seriously, that was a decent bit of freak out, there.

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EFG=TTA=Tim, I assure you.

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Sorry for the wall-of-text : (

Wow, J's response really cut down the speculation here. I kinda like that, though. I don't mind being way wrong here, if it means the story keeps going.

I'm thinking we really did over analyze this. Occam's Razor anyone? I'm wondering if we shouldn't start looking at the far simpler ideas and possibilities here (which most of the people here have already done).
-Only J and EFG were there that night.
-EFG attacked J (confirmed by J)
-EFG pushed J off him
-If EFG wasn't stabbed, then he had to of had a seizure or shaking-fit.

I'm sorry about rehashing most things we know, but it's the only way I can keep my head straight and not start leading down other theories. A fellow friend who's following this too has a pretty basic theory, which I'm partially subscribing to.

"My opinion is that the masked man is another piece of the puzzle and was probably their the first time J visits the house....I suggest that he knows what J may face in the future and is trying to stop him and drive him away....the masked man maybe Alex who is being tormented by slender....this means he is back to warn and drive people away so that no one faces what he did"
One thing my friend sharply omits is Alex being TTA, which I agree with him on. We've already concluded that it would be nigh impossible for Alex to video J in that response of TTA's (when J goes to the car). So, unless Alex could have somehow recorded J then OR gotten the video of someone else recording him (who?), he couldn't be TTA.

I'm starting to think that Alex was EFG, and he showed up that night to either stop TTA and J, or at least intervene on J's behest. Now, this doesn't bode well with J being attacked, I know. But it could be part of the act. If EFG/Alex manhandled and put the pain to J then maybe he'd stop with the entries and stop messing around with SM-related material. Also, if Alex was still mentally unhinged, it would be plausible for him to assault J instead of an old-fashioned "Hey J, it's me, your bud! Stop screwing about with this crap, alright?" Other holes in this being "where was TTA?" and "that doesn't explain TTA's role any further". I think that before anything can be concretely established (or any closer to it), then we need a response from TTA. (Perhaps there won't be one?)

I'm really sorry for this long, rehashed, and probably worthless post. With my slow dial-up, I'm trying to put all my ideas into one post at a time.

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I bet anything that TTA will shoot a video of them tussling from up the stairs, which was to the right of J when he got tackled.

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Re: Sorry for the wall-of-text : (

Chief Poirot wrote:
Wow, J's response really cut down the speculation here. I kinda like that, though. I don't mind being way wrong here, if it means the story keeps going.

I'm thinking we really did over analyze this. Occam's Razor anyone? I'm wondering if we shouldn't start looking at the far simpler ideas and possibilities here (which most of the people here have already done).
-Only J and EFG were there that night.
-EFG attacked J (confirmed by J)
-EFG pushed J off him
-If EFG wasn't stabbed, then he had to of had a seizure or shaking-fit.

I'm sorry about rehashing most things we know, but it's the only way I can keep my head straight and not start leading down other theories. A fellow friend who's following this too has a pretty basic theory, which I'm partially subscribing to.

"My opinion is that the masked man is another piece of the puzzle and was probably their the first time J visits the house....I suggest that he knows what J may face in the future and is trying to stop him and drive him away....the masked man maybe Alex who is being tormented by slender....this means he is back to warn and drive people away so that no one faces what he did"
One thing my friend sharply omits is Alex being TTA, which I agree with him on. We've already concluded that it would be nigh impossible for Alex to video J in that response of TTA's (when J goes to the car). So, unless Alex could have somehow recorded J then OR gotten the video of someone else recording him (who?), he couldn't be TTA.

I'm starting to think that Alex was EFG, and he showed up that night to either stop TTA and J, or at least intervene on J's behest. Now, this doesn't bode well with J being attacked, I know. But it could be part of the act. If EFG/Alex manhandled and put the pain to J then maybe he'd stop with the entries and stop messing around with SM-related material. Also, if Alex was still mentally unhinged, it would be plausible for him to assault J instead of an old-fashioned "Hey J, it's me, your bud! Stop screwing about with this crap, alright?" Other holes in this being "where was TTA?" and "that doesn't explain TTA's role any further". I think that before anything can be concretely established (or any closer to it), then we need a response from TTA. (Perhaps there won't be one?)

I'm really sorry for this long, rehashed, and probably worthless post. With my slow dial-up, I'm trying to put all my ideas into one post at a time.


There were only two people there that night. If J wanted us to know that there was a third person, he would have made it more prominent in the video, and not have us find out through speculation. If you read J's (Ce Gar) post on SA, he did not take the knife out, and it was still on him as he was running out of the house.

The whole Masky has superhuman strength could make it Brian. To me, Brian looked like a football player, and they are pretty strong. When Masky goes down from the couch, its like he jumps down quickly, and then gets up and charges. The foot work of it could be of that of a football player.

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Re: Sorry for the wall-of-text : (

RedBlade2021 wrote:
Chief Poirot wrote:
Wow, J's response really cut down the speculation here. I kinda like that, though. I don't mind being way wrong here, if it means the story keeps going.

I'm thinking we really did over analyze this. Occam's Razor anyone? I'm wondering if we shouldn't start looking at the far simpler ideas and possibilities here (which most of the people here have already done).
-Only J and EFG were there that night.
-EFG attacked J (confirmed by J)
-EFG pushed J off him
-If EFG wasn't stabbed, then he had to of had a seizure or shaking-fit.

I'm sorry about rehashing most things we know, but it's the only way I can keep my head straight and not start leading down other theories. A fellow friend who's following this too has a pretty basic theory, which I'm partially subscribing to.

"My opinion is that the masked man is another piece of the puzzle and was probably their the first time J visits the house....I suggest that he knows what J may face in the future and is trying to stop him and drive him away....the masked man maybe Alex who is being tormented by slender....this means he is back to warn and drive people away so that no one faces what he did"
One thing my friend sharply omits is Alex being TTA, which I agree with him on. We've already concluded that it would be nigh impossible for Alex to video J in that response of TTA's (when J goes to the car). So, unless Alex could have somehow recorded J then OR gotten the video of someone else recording him (who?), he couldn't be TTA.

I'm starting to think that Alex was EFG, and he showed up that night to either stop TTA and J, or at least intervene on J's behest. Now, this doesn't bode well with J being attacked, I know. But it could be part of the act. If EFG/Alex manhandled and put the pain to J then maybe he'd stop with the entries and stop messing around with SM-related material. Also, if Alex was still mentally unhinged, it would be plausible for him to assault J instead of an old-fashioned "Hey J, it's me, your bud! Stop screwing about with this crap, alright?" Other holes in this being "where was TTA?" and "that doesn't explain TTA's role any further". I think that before anything can be concretely established (or any closer to it), then we need a response from TTA. (Perhaps there won't be one?)

I'm really sorry for this long, rehashed, and probably worthless post. With my slow dial-up, I'm trying to put all my ideas into one post at a time.


There were only two people there that night. If J wanted us to know that there was a third person, he would have made it more prominent in the video, and not have us find out through speculation. If you read J's (Ce Gar) post on SA, he did not take the knife out, and it was still on him as he was running out of the house.

The whole Masky has superhuman strength could make it Brian. To me, Brian looked like a football player, and they are pretty strong. When Masky goes down from the couch, its like he jumps down quickly, and then gets up and charges. The foot work of it could be of that of a football player.


I like the whole football player idea. We haven't heard about Brian in a while have we? I think we should go over what we DO know about Brian. Maybe someone should ask J what he remembers about him.

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You know how they went location scouting at the football field, well I asked J where Brian was that day, and J said he did not know. Therefore, Brian could have been creeping on J.

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Yeah, I think that TTA's response is going to be from a totally different point of view, like the stairs next to J.

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Re: Sorry for the wall-of-text : (

Didz wrote:
RedBlade2021 wrote:
Chief Poirot wrote:
Wow, J's response really cut down the speculation here. I kinda like that, though. I don't mind being way wrong here, if it means the story keeps going.

I'm thinking we really did over analyze this. Occam's Razor anyone? I'm wondering if we shouldn't start looking at the far simpler ideas and possibilities here (which most of the people here have already done).
-Only J and EFG were there that night.
-EFG attacked J (confirmed by J)
-EFG pushed J off him
-If EFG wasn't stabbed, then he had to of had a seizure or shaking-fit.

I'm sorry about rehashing most things we know, but it's the only way I can keep my head straight and not start leading down other theories. A fellow friend who's following this too has a pretty basic theory, which I'm partially subscribing to.

"My opinion is that the masked man is another piece of the puzzle and was probably their the first time J visits the house....I suggest that he knows what J may face in the future and is trying to stop him and drive him away....the masked man maybe Alex who is being tormented by slender....this means he is back to warn and drive people away so that no one faces what he did"
One thing my friend sharply omits is Alex being TTA, which I agree with him on. We've already concluded that it would be nigh impossible for Alex to video J in that response of TTA's (when J goes to the car). So, unless Alex could have somehow recorded J then OR gotten the video of someone else recording him (who?), he couldn't be TTA.

I'm starting to think that Alex was EFG, and he showed up that night to either stop TTA and J, or at least intervene on J's behest. Now, this doesn't bode well with J being attacked, I know. But it could be part of the act. If EFG/Alex manhandled and put the pain to J then maybe he'd stop with the entries and stop messing around with SM-related material. Also, if Alex was still mentally unhinged, it would be plausible for him to assault J instead of an old-fashioned "Hey J, it's me, your bud! Stop screwing about with this crap, alright?" Other holes in this being "where was TTA?" and "that doesn't explain TTA's role any further". I think that before anything can be concretely established (or any closer to it), then we need a response from TTA. (Perhaps there won't be one?)

I'm really sorry for this long, rehashed, and probably worthless post. With my slow dial-up, I'm trying to put all my ideas into one post at a time.


There were only two people there that night. If J wanted us to know that there was a third person, he would have made it more prominent in the video, and not have us find out through speculation. If you read J's (Ce Gar) post on SA, he did not take the knife out, and it was still on him as he was running out of the house.

The whole Masky has superhuman strength could make it Brian. To me, Brian looked like a football player, and they are pretty strong. When Masky goes down from the couch, its like he jumps down quickly, and then gets up and charges. The foot work of it could be of that of a football player.


I like the whole football player idea. We haven't heard about Brian in a while have we? I think we should go over what we DO know about Brian. Maybe someone should ask J what he remembers about him.


That dash was impressive. Reminded me of Albert Wesker. >_> Anyways, that's what I was saying about the knife. That he wasn't stabbed at all, so the fit was caused by something else.
One one end, I believe that there was only two people there. EFG and J. On the other side, I keep thinking about the possibility of a third observer. TTA needs to get a video up, so I can make up my mind! If TTA's PoV turns out to be from a totally different angle (especially if EFG and J are shown) then it's almost damning proof that EFG =/= TTA.

The football thing was a good observation, but is there anything to say that Brian was a football player, other than his size? But then again, his size alone could be evidence with EFG's speed and strength.

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incedio wrote:
Yeah, I think that TTA's response is going to be from a totally different point of view, like the stairs next to J.

I have a sinking feeling that it will be another cryptic one. It's almost too easy for TTA to post another video of J in the house.
I hope I'm wrong, though.

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If the camera is stone still in TTA's video, then Masky could be TTA. Masky might have had the camera on a table or stand or something already there before J arrived.

About Brian, J never said he DIDN'T play football. It's like saying that a store is closed because it doesn't have an Open sign on the door.

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