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[Aquanaut]

Alright, about all this "EFG has superhuman strength" stuff. What part of the video are you guys talking about? Where does he exhibit paranormal strength? Sure, he has a really creepy run, but that's about it.

J reaches down to take off EFG's mask, EFG kicks/shoves J off (which would clearly shock J, considering he thought he was unconscious or something along those lines), and J stumbles back, has a coughing attack, falls over. EFG didn't kick J 8 feet down a hallway.

[Zukuss]

[TooLazy]

Don't forget that J is sick and sleep-deprived. A good shove coupled with J's already apparant weakness accounts for how far he travelled.

Is anyone else questioning J's reply on the SA forums? The part where he says, "He pushed me against the door that was locked behind me and pulled me down on the floor.", is puzzling me.

If we look at the footage it looks like J backs away from EFG and tries to run up the stairs when he then falls to the ground and hits his head. Then once out of the daze he experienced he pushed himself off of the stairs and returns to his attacker.

I think we should reconsider taking J's word as absolute truth. His memory is being toyed with and he thought he hallucinated the whole thing. What he thinks happened and what did happen might not be the same thing.

[BaronVonCakeman]

Apologies for the long post.

Holy crap I missed a lot of discussion. But it made me realize that I'm done speculating. For now, at least. I'm gonna stick with my theory (because quite frankly, most of your theories either don't make sense to me (Come on, robots!? Really!?), or I deem them very unlikely) until either J tells me I'm wrong (which he just recently did about my previous theories XD) or until the next totheark video.

I'm gonna start with FACT.

1) The couch EFG is sitting on is absolutely NOT turned over. You can see it when J enters the house.

2) J is attacked by EFG, obviously. I didn't like this idea, because I believed that totheark was EFG, and that he was protecting him, and because when watching it it really looked like EFG ran past J, but I suppose that's just an error on their part or a bad camera angle.

3) J did NOT stab EFG. J had the knife when he left the house, and I'm assuming he would have told us if there was blood on it. It takes quite an amount of force to remove a knife from a person, and there would have been quite a bit of blood. I suppose it may be possible that J cut him, but I really doubt it.

4) When J attempts to remove his mask, EFG grunts a very manly and desperate "NO!". EFG is most definitely male. (Or has an extremely effective voice manipulator under her mask (not likely)).

5) I'll put this in fact, because I can't believe it was seriously suggested. Robots!? Come on! There has been absolutely NO indication of ANYTHING to do with robots thus far, and this takes place in the present/3 years ago, not in the future. (Also, time travel? Get outta here.) Slender Man is one thing, but robots? Ugh. If the MH creators seriously go robot, I'm done with this.

My theory of what went down (using logic):

1) J visits the house. The door is locked in order to lure J into the the other door.

(Supporting logic: There is no other reason for it to be locked, other than to manipulate J. Obviously, the occupant(s) isn't worried about intruders, because the sliding door is completely off its track and wide open.)

2) J alerts EFG to his presence, who takes cover somewhere in the house (if he wasn't already).

(Supporting logic: You don't hear anything aside from J's investigating sounds, thus it's extremely unlikely that EFG followed J here, as the blinds probably would have been heard.)

3) The trap works, and J is lured to the Slender Doll. Static or distortion is heard as J is looking at the doll. I'm going to stick with the fact that Slender Man is present; probably outside the door.

(Supporting logic: Audio distortion is present only when Slender Man is present. This could be only because the doll looks like Slender Man, but I kind of doubt it.)

4) J turns to see EFG, and EFG charges J, attacking him. They struggle, and then EFG begins to seize. I attribute this to Slender Man's presence, although I did lol when it was suggested that J stole his seizure meds XD.

(Supporting logic: Assuming that EFG is totheark or someone involved with Marble Hornets: totheark/EFG has been involved in this for (probably) more than 3 years now. (Nobody tapes somebody for no reason; totheark was watching J three years ago, because of Slender Man.) If J has been dealing with Slender Man for several months and is having blackouts/coughing fits, then one would think totheark/EFG must be affected much more severely (also note his mental instability).)

5) J attempts to remove the mask, and EFG shouts "NO!" and kicks J. No, not down the hall. J is trying to get away at this point, remember? He runs off and trips.

(Supporting logic: EFG didn't run very fast. It looked like it, yeah, but anyone can shoot off quickly if they have the proper technique. If J was kicked down the hall, he would have been in the air or be moving much quicker, not stumbling backwards. You'd be surprised how fast and far you'll travel if someone kicks you while you're unbalanced.)

6) I do not believe that totheark/EFG is supernatural in any way.

(Supporting logic: He charged J. He did not teleport. If EFG could teleport, he would have to intimidate J. He did not run or kick superhumanly fast or strong, and he did not use any powers while attacking J. One supernatural being is probably enough for this story. It doesn't fit in. Not yet, anyways. Just because totheark is creepy and EFG is fast/skittish, doesn't mean they're on par with Slender Man)

7) J pulls himself across the floor whilst coughing, eventually gets up, and runs outside. Now, J shuts off the camera, probably by accident, and something happens. This could be any number of things, because J blacked out and there is no video. But what seems the most likely is this: Slender Man appears, and either attacks, or stops J somehow. totheark or EFG (depending on whether he is EFG or not) appears and saves J. J is probably unconscious at this point, and totheark or EFG takes J to his car, and drives him away from the house proximity, assuming that Slender Man kind of "haunts" the house, and that J would be safe at the location he was left. Either that, or totheark or EFG attacks Slender Man somehow, allowing J to escape, so he drives off and parks somewhere, when he passes out, either from exhaustion or Slender Man. J's knife goes missing at some point, either by theft, or it fell out when totheark or EFG was carrying him.

(Supporting logic: Slender Man was there that night. The audio distortion pretty much proves it. Also, let's see, J blacks out when Slender Man is near, and it's pretty much 100% at this point that so did Alex (due to his recording himself at all times), and J blacks out as soon as he leaves the house? HMM. The fact that totheark didn't seem hostile in the videos, while could be a ruse, seemed genuine to me. I believe if Slender Man appeared/attacked, totheark would have shown up to either defend J or for some other reason.

It's entirely possible that totheark worships Slender Man or at least tries to control him (hence the mask and the doll), and he sent Slender Man after J when he left the house. I'm not going with this theory though, because I still don't like totheark as a bad guy.

Again, though, we shall see when the next video is up.

[Seraphim]

[MrHawthorne]

Just a quick blurb: People say there was audio distortion when J was looking at the doll. There wasn't. EFG said, "boo". Turn the volume up and listen closely. This is what clues J in that there's somebody behind him.

[BaronVonCakeman]

[msheadwound]

[BaronVonCakeman]

[MrHawthorne]

Hmm I hadn't heard the crackly sound...

But I think it does sound like a sound a computer would make, more so than a geiger counter.

Perhaps there's a computer in that dark room or past the stairs on that floor.

EDIT: But thats not sound distortion so should not be attributed to SM. However when J falls and the camera is on the ground, the sound distortion there can be attributed to SM, and the sound distortion at the very end.

Also I'd like to add that even though J "blacksout" at the end of the tape it doesn't mean he loses conciousness. It just means that he has no memory of what happens after that.

[msheadwound]

Forgive my poor spatial sense, but would that be the room on the first floor that J didn't go into when he was looking around in Entry 16?

[Shaon]

Hi, read this entire thread (it was 120 pages when I started! D:!) and I figure that this is the worst time possible to link to the neat-o TVTropes page I made for Marble Hornets.

Now, please return to your crazy speculation and I'll return to my lurking.

_{holy crap my account is old, I was ten when I made it}

[Two2teps]

Gonna truncate down the quotes so it doesn't get too crazy. Also blue I want to apologize for the douche way my first reply came off in the last post about he meds. I'm all about debating I dont' want to flame out.

[Two2teps]