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TheAtroxious
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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
Oi.

Everyday someone new posts saying something like "Oh hi guys I've been following since the beginning and I was just wondering did anybody notice that thing you all had a huge discussion/debate over about 10 pages back?" If you were following, you probably would have noticed it had already been dismissed/addressed.

Also, we discover something that's pretty much fact (due to the nature of this story, nothing is 100% fact, but a lot becomes obvious enough that debating it is like beating a dead horse), and people dispute it, either because they don't like it, or they don't get it. This face thing at the end of Messages is a good example of this; it's Tim. Get over it. It doesn't necessarily mean that totheark is Tim, so nothing is ruined, and you are defending nothing. A lot of energy is being wasted on pointless arguments. "Hey guys, you're all wrong; Slender Man's tie is blue, not black." Let's not forget about the "robots theory". Ugh.

That being said, Messages seems to be a message (ha) to J, telling him that Tim's messages (ha) in Entry #15 were either lies or misleading or both. This is the water thing all over again. They seem to be shoving it down our throats that Tim has more to do with this than was previously thought.

Tim is acting suspicious (as I previously stated long ago) in Entry #15, his face gets blurred out in Entry #17, and now he's in totheark's Messages video. The fact that Tim's face gets blurred the way it does due to Slender Man's presence seems to indicate (to me, at least) that he's connected to Slender Man somehow, maybe more so than totheark.


THANK YOU.

I'm pretty glad you wrote this out, 'cause I was about on the verge of tearing some peoples' heads off reading some of this stuff, and getting banned from the site is not on my to-do list.

Also, what's this about an anime character? Really? Anime characters have squished faces, huge eyes, and tiny noses. The picture in Messages looks just like a faded, low-quality image of Tim. I just can't see it as being anime in any way, shape or form.

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chaos
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 		not sure about anime, they might have meant it was kinda cel shaded
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TheAtroxious wrote:
BaronVonCakeman wrote:
Oi.

Everyday someone new posts saying something like "Oh hi guys I've been following since the beginning and I was just wondering did anybody notice that thing you all had a huge discussion/debate over about 10 pages back?" If you were following, you probably would have noticed it had already been dismissed/addressed.

Also, we discover something that's pretty much fact (due to the nature of this story, nothing is 100% fact, but a lot becomes obvious enough that debating it is like beating a dead horse), and people dispute it, either because they don't like it, or they don't get it. This face thing at the end of Messages is a good example of this; it's Tim. Get over it. It doesn't necessarily mean that totheark is Tim, so nothing is ruined, and you are defending nothing. A lot of energy is being wasted on pointless arguments. "Hey guys, you're all wrong; Slender Man's tie is blue, not black." Let's not forget about the "robots theory". Ugh.

That being said, Messages seems to be a message (ha) to J, telling him that Tim's messages (ha) in Entry #15 were either lies or misleading or both. This is the water thing all over again. They seem to be shoving it down our throats that Tim has more to do with this than was previously thought.

Tim is acting suspicious (as I previously stated long ago) in Entry #15, his face gets blurred out in Entry #17, and now he's in totheark's Messages video. The fact that Tim's face gets blurred the way it does due to Slender Man's presence seems to indicate (to me, at least) that he's connected to Slender Man somehow, maybe more so than totheark.


THANK YOU.

I'm pretty glad you wrote this out, 'cause I was about on the verge of tearing some peoples' heads off reading some of this stuff, and getting banned from the site is not on my to-do list.

Also, what's this about an anime character? Really? Anime characters have squished faces, huge eyes, and tiny noses. The picture in Messages looks just like a faded, low-quality image of Tim. I just can't see it as being anime in any way, shape or form.

It's not like we can do much else but speculate, really. Once again, since this is more of a web series than an ARG, all we can to is sit back and watch.
We're really just waiting for J to either try and talk to Tim again, or not try and talk to Tim again. Not to sound cynical here, but the most we can do talk about our pet theories and see how they match up.
Although, the rampant speculation and beating a dead horse is annoying, yes. And it makes for clutter in the topics.

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xxxblindxxx
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 		we cant make any claims other then to tell J to go see tim and show him the video and be like. " hey. your in this video. why? TELL ME NOW" im not 100% on that being tim the shirt doesnt match in 17. has anyone looked into the camera man about seeing if him and this picture work?

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BaronVonCakeman
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 		Well, like I said, nothing is 100%, but it's obvious enough that it doesn't need extended debate. Such as Tim in Messages, Slender Man being connected to water, totheark being in the house during the filming of Entry #16, etc. Stuff that isn't directly stated, but can only be argued using logic such as "Well, totheark didn't say he WASN'T a robot."

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 		I'm with whoever said it was a yearbook picture. That is a perfectly possible possibility Razz

The smile just looks like a pose picture and "smile for the camera" what do they tell you when talking school pictures? Hmm?

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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
Well, like I said, nothing is 100%, but it's obvious enough that it doesn't need extended debate.


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 		to be honest, i'm still not sold on the SM related to water concept...

there's a possibility, i'll admit, but still not sold..
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Nonmetals Nerd wrote:
If you -- like me -- decide to just wait it out and watch everything together at the end once it's all said and done, I don't think you'll be missing anything.

Except, you know, the process of discovery and the speculation that we do collectively that pins down what actually happened. As much as I hate random people coming up with absurd theories like "there was a third person in the house" and then seeing those theories actually take root, at the end of the day we always do discern what actually happened because the absurd is rooted out. The hive mind is an important part of Marble Hornets that you're losing out on, bro. Just sayin. You'll get the full story, sure, but you'll miss the emotional aspect that Ce Gars is going for here.

jamiel8668 wrote:
As for TTA = Alex? I suspect it's a little too early to jump to this conclusion just yet.

Too early? I've been saying that since day one Razz

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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
Oi.

Everyday someone new posts saying something like "Oh hi guys I've been following since the beginning and I was just wondering did anybody notice that thing you all had a huge discussion/debate over about 10 pages back?" If you were following, you probably would have noticed it had already been dismissed/addressed.

Also, we discover something that's pretty much fact (due to the nature of this story, nothing is 100% fact, but a lot becomes obvious enough that debating it is like beating a dead horse), and people dispute it, either because they don't like it, or they don't get it. This face thing at the end of Messages is a good example of this; it's Tim. Get over it. It doesn't necessarily mean that totheark is Tim, so nothing is ruined, and you are defending nothing. A lot of energy is being wasted on pointless arguments. "Hey guys, you're all wrong; Slender Man's tie is blue, not black." Let's not forget about the "robots theory". Ugh.

That being said, Messages seems to be a message (ha) to J, telling him that Tim's messages (ha) in Entry #15 were either lies or misleading or both. This is the water thing all over again. They seem to be shoving it down our throats that Tim has more to do with this than was previously thought.

Tim is acting suspicious (as I previously stated long ago) in Entry #15, his face gets blurred out in Entry #17, and now he's in totheark's Messages video. The fact that Tim's face gets blurred the way it does due to Slender Man's presence seems to indicate (to me, at least) that he's connected to Slender Man somehow, maybe more so than totheark.


Well, i'm gonna be the ass here and say:

Unless you're someone in the MH ARg, you cannot tell anyone 100% that it's tim. Get over it. Sure, the evidence does seem to point to Tim, but nobody can say that for sure until either J or TTA tell us it is.

Having said that, the whole entry 15 and tim's blurred face in 17 does indicate that Tim knows more than he is saying. It would be wise for J to follow up on this lead.

We're as certain that it's Tim as we are about pretty much any scientific theory, and through the same process--once you pile up sufficient evidence in favor of something (it being Tim) and have insufficient evidence against it, then it's pretty safe to assume it as fact and move on, otherwise you'd never get anywhere. In this case, I happened to be of the opinion that we've passed the threshold in question. So while people will still continue asking the quesiton and contesting it until the next video, the majority of us can assume with some certitude that this is, in fact, Tim.

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DavFlamerock wrote:

We're as certain that it's Tim as we are about pretty much any scientific theory, and through the same process--once you pile up sufficient evidence in favor of something (it being Tim) and have insufficient evidence against it, then it's pretty safe to assume it as fact and move on, otherwise you'd never get anywhere. In this case, I happened to be of the opinion that we've passed the threshold in question. So while people will still continue asking the quesiton and contesting it until the next video, the majority of us can assume with some certitude that this is, in fact, Tim.


ye would be quite suprised at how far i go to keep a shadow of doubt in all my words :p
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 		Didn't I end this debate, like, three pages ago? It's Tim. Let's move on to other topics.

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tetsuyabh wrote:
Didn't I end this debate, like, three pages ago? It's Tim. Let's move on to other topics.


its not tim. atleast i dont believe it 100%. as i said before OPERATOR= camera man. did that theory just go straight out the door. we all noticed him smile into the camera. i just dont see why it has to be TIM. i think thats just us taking the easy route because alot of speculation has been on him already.

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 		Okay. Let's clarify some things.

1.) We barely know who's doing what, besides the fact the Marble Hornets film is Alex's project, the Entries are J's, the TTA videos are TTA's, and Slendy is there messing with stuff, though we don't know exactly how.

2.) Tim, Brian and Sarah are actors. There is a member of the group who we know very little about. He runs the camera.

3.) Tim is almost certainly pictured in "Messages". (Disagree if you want, but it's a pretty big consensus.)

NOW. Just because we see Tim in "Messages" does not mean that Tim=TTA. In fact, he's been ruled out as an unlikely candidate for TTA. The most popular votes seem to be Alex or the Unnamed Camera Dude.

In short, Tim's picture in "Messages" does not automatically make him TTA. Please, please try to understand that so we can move on to other topics.

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TheAtroxious wrote:
Okay. Let's clarify some things.

1.) We barely know who's doing what, besides the fact the Marble Hornets film is Alex's project, the Entries are J's, the TTA videos are TTA's, and Slendy is there messing with stuff, though we don't know exactly how.

2.) Tim, Brian and Sarah are actors. There is a member of the group who we know very little about. He runs the camera.

3.) Tim is almost certainly pictured in "Messages". (Disagree if you want, but it's a pretty big consensus.)

NOW. Just because we see Tim in "Messages" does not mean that Tim=TTA. In fact, he's been ruled out as an unlikely candidate for TTA. The most popular votes seem to be Alex or the Unnamed Camera Dude.

In short, Tim's picture in "Messages" does not automatically make him TTA. Please, please try to understand that so we can move on to other topics.


Precisely. I still don't understand how it makes ANY sense that because Tim is in Messages, that automatically makes him totheark. totheark isn't stupid. He's not just going to suddenly be like "psst, I'm Tim, pass it on". Not his MO.

Also, I find it a bit strange that J hasn't acknowledged Messages yet, on Twitter or on Youtube. I wonder what's happening to him that's so bad. Maybe he's just mad at totheark because he figures totheark=Masky and he attacked him. =P

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BaronVonCakeman wrote:

Also, I find it a bit strange that J hasn't acknowledged Messages yet, on Twitter or on Youtube. I wonder what's happening to him that's so bad. Maybe he's just mad at totheark because he figures totheark=Masky and he attacked him. =P


J never acknowledged Advocate either. Which is interesting because both of those videos have something in common: They've got image/video of MH cast members. None of the other response videos (all of which J acknowledged) have this.
(Exit and Addition don't count as J was not a cast member. Plus, the way J was shown in those clips differs from the way Brian and Tim are shown)

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