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stormoftara
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Re: incedio

Anonymous wrote:
stormoftara wrote:
Just a random theory...from the original SA thread, it was put forward that SM appears differently to different people. Like how he sometimes appears almost like a normal human, and sometimes he has tentacles and is way too tall. Perhaps to J this is how he appears.


Woh! THat makes a lot of sense o_o

So are you suggesting TTA = SM?

Because this guy seems like he is TTA
I'm saying that it is possible. Anything is still possible at this point, really.

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gordon_ramsay
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Re: incedio

stormoftara wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
stormoftara wrote:
Just a random theory...from the original SA thread, it was put forward that SM appears differently to different people. Like how he sometimes appears almost like a normal human, and sometimes he has tentacles and is way too tall. Perhaps to J this is how he appears.


Woh! THat makes a lot of sense o_o

So are you suggesting TTA = SM?

Because this guy seems like he is TTA
I'm saying that it is possible. Anything is still possible at this point, really.


I must agree. Even if we have all these entries and responses, it still brings us no closer to solving any of this. We will either have a major breakthrough, or we will have to wait till the end to find out what is all going down.

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TheAtroxious
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Personally, I think the latter is more likely. Knowing these guys, they're going to keep things purposefully vague until the climax. If they had been going to reveal things intentionally, even as clues, I think they would have done more of that by now.

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jamiel8668
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TheAtroxious wrote:
Knowing these guys, they're going to keep things purposefully vague until the climax. If they had been going to reveal things intentionally, even as clues, I think they would have done more of that by now.


Agreed.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:45 am
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pumahawk
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curses, i had my speakers wayyyy to loud for that video.

i should've known. now to sit here, click my fingers, speculate like all the rest of you, and wait for the next installment. who wants to guess masky's next video response? teasing J despite locked doors and whatnot?

also: i've given up on identifying who is behind the mask. of course they won't tell us or give us any clues. then what would be the point of the mask. Surprised

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:16 am
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xxxblindxxx
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so is it official that TTA=masky?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:51 am
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RoyalKnight
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I made one of the most n00bish mistakes you can do in the horror genre.

You know those shock/prank videos where someone tells you to look at something cool/mysterious/etc? You just see something mundane at first, and then BOOM. Shock picture.

...Yeah. Should have known. First it's trees, then its windows, then its hallways, now its any freaking room, even lighted.

Anyways, I always find it funny when people try to assert that TTA is anything but malevolent. Secretly recording people, purposefully putting out audio (reversed, slowed down, and distorted) with things that go "Alex... Alex... Alex, Alex" in uncannily creepy (if I may say, almost dead-like) tone, posting videos with direct yet cryptically nebulous messages, telling you to go places (that end up getting you attacked).

And for the masked man (who is probably TTA, anyway), it's pretty obvious he does things to instill fear and horror in people. He wouldn't be wearing that kind of mask, stalk around until he is between "you" and "escape," unnervingly sit there for a few seconds as you stare at his impassive mask and call out to him, suddenly ram you at Olympiad speeds, and then sometime later, showcase himself in your room while you're asleep, completely vulnerable and unaware.

There is such a thing as looking too hard for something. Combine that with the very dangerous mindset of looking at evidence yet being dead set on a particular theory (despite what the evidence or anyone else might strongly suggest otherwise), and I think that's why some of the issues can get so... aggravatingly distorted.

Relax, it's a story. Pet theory doesn't float well? Shrug your shoulders, wait for the "I told you so" moment when it comes (if it comes). Pet theory doesn't float well at all? Oops, you probably made a mistake. Reflect, repent, reboot--- err, move on.

Compare... TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life with TV Tropes Will Enhance Your Life

MH certainly isn't one of those stories that requires CSI-level skills to figure out.



On another note, gray fallacy. At the beginning, the only source of MH info was from J. Then TTA comes in, and now people say "J can't be trusted." Here's the problem.

Arrow J can't be trusted because TTA says so. Does this mean that if I say (as a completely hypothetical example) that gordon_ramsay can't be trusted, he therefore should not be trusted? A third party who has access to a lot of lost information and... info he really should have at all, yet very selectively and carefully reveals things at his own discretion?

Arrow TTA said J can't be trusted because he's "human." Putting theories of extraterrestrial conspiracies aside, can't you really just say that applies to all of us? J is human, and has the same flaws and trappings as we do. To me, Q: "Can J be trusted?" A: "Human, so no." sounds more like an automatic answer or even bitterness towards humans and/or human nature. He's not untrustworthy because he's J. He's untrustworthy merely because he's human.

I don't know about you, but if this guy comes out of nowhere and tells me not to trust J without any convincing reason, I certainly won't just do what he says like some dog.

(Come to think of it, I came out of nowhere, too--- hmm, that doesn't help make my point, does it?)

In any case, I believe Ce Gars, Entry #19, and the notes in the videos are there to pretty much tell people that "Yeeeaahhh... TTA is probably a bad guy" without making it too obvious, and still have it be ingame.

J's worst enemy isn't TTA or the Slenderman; it's the Internet.

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Curiously High
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Okay, and from out of left field...
So I was just talking to a friend about it and I was basically hashing out a theory I had involving Alex being dead, Brian being dead, and Masky/TTA being Tim.
And then I realized something.
We still haven't heard a damn thing about the whereabouts or anybody wondering where the actress girl is. I mean sure, we wonder about her here in the trailhead and in some other posts, but has nobody thought to check on her IG?
Huh.
Wonder if she's got anything to do with it at all. In fact? I hope she does. I hope we're all wrong and SHE'S Masky/TTM.

Meanwhile, I'd like to toot my own horn here, and be all proud and puffed out that I knew he had been filming himself for a while now~. Go team me.

So, as completely halfbaked as my current theory is, and about as stupid and holey, I still hope this turns out to be awesome.

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Kilo
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Re: incedio

stormoftara wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
stormoftara wrote:
Just a random theory...from the original SA thread, it was put forward that SM appears differently to different people. Like how he sometimes appears almost like a normal human, and sometimes he has tentacles and is way too tall. Perhaps to J this is how he appears.


Woh! THat makes a lot of sense o_o

So are you suggesting TTA = SM?

Because this guy seems like he is TTA
I'm saying that it is possible. Anything is still possible at this point, really.


Eh, I'm little incredulous on this point. Mask shares some qualities with SM, but A) Mask is way too active, and B) I think that a camera would show a consistent form (Isn't that how it usually works? Cameras can't be fooled [See 17]).

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:33 am
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DavFlamerock
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RoyalKnight wrote:
J's worst enemy isn't TTA or the Slenderman; it's the Internet.

New favorite quote.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:18 am
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The Last Gent
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Man, I'm a frigging masochist with this series.

At like 12 30 last night I see links to the new entry on here, followed by like 3 posts of OMG WTF PANTS PISSING. And I'm on a laptop with headphones in in the dark, alone. I remember thinking to myself "what the hell, it can't be that bad,". I'm a moron. I spend the night startling at any little noise.

(a side note, back when SM was the star of these vids I had to move a Rorschach figure I had in my room because it kind of looked like a mini SM in a fedora in the dark. In fact if anyone wants to make an SM custom it would probably be a good figure to use.)

Okay, so, testament aside, I remember near the beginning, people theorized that SM couldn't do anything while the camera could see him. (Note how SM never really did anything except be creepy in the Entries, except for that one time he *possibly* bloodied Alex's face, and the camera wasn't on him when he did that.) If that still holds weight, maybe the Masked Man (TTA or not) is there to go where SM cannot. He possessed somebody, probably from the MH crew, and gave him some of his powers, so that that person could do his bidding while the camera was on them. Note how The Mask has attacked J and possibly kidnapped him. So maybe that's the reason for his existence.

Also, if SM can indeed teleport, and gave his power to The Mask, and his teleporting is the reason for the visual tear in the entries (as theorised) then maybe we just witnessed what a teleportation looks like straight-on in this vid, complete with even more tearing and distortion.

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Chike X
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My 2 cents about 2 points
2 thinngs not brought up yet.

Hello.

I am a longtime lurker who has been following this thread since I saw the film Paranormal Activity. I would like to offer two points I am seeing.

1. I am not sure if TTA and EFG are the same person. The only thing we have to go on with this is that J told us he thought they were the same person. But didn't TTA say not to trust J? We've already seen that there are holes in his memory and that he is not well... could this be effecting his reasoning? I'm not saying they are two different people, just that one shouldn't be so hasty in thinking they are one and the same.

2. TTA's response that J can't be trusted because he is human. I don't think this has anything to do with the supernatural, but more with what is commonly called the Unreliable narrator. Again, J has show some signs that things are not all right with him. Memory lapses, sickness, bad judgement. I think TTA is saying don't trust what J sees... but rather what the CAMERA sees. The camera has been all along seeing what the people cannot.

(And yes, while I know a camera's image and sound can be modified, staying in game, you are to believe it is not.)

Thank you.

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BaronVonCakeman
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Hey guys, did you notice that Masky/totheark is barefoot? He's kicking his legs against the dresser like a child at 1:30 or so.

EDIT: Also, I'm telling you, Masky is Slender Man's illegitimate human child who wears a mask to hide his face because he's ashamed of it. He's like a younger, more acrobatic (and more human) version of Slender Man.

In all seriousness though, I'd be pretty disappoint if that were the true ending.

I don't know if I can see Slender Man in the window, but if he IS there, then it's a pretty big deal, because it's the first time Slender Man was seen stalking J, which means J has TWO stalkers on his hands, who may or may not be affiliated.

I do not think totheark=Masky=Slendy, and here's why: the camera. While it's an interesting concept that Slender Man may appear differently to J than to Alex, that doesn't explain the way WE see him.

Also, Slender Man goes from standing eerily still in forests and floating around outside houses to sitting on couches, crouching on desks, and charging people? He must've had a midlife crisis for him to suddenly change his methods so drastically.

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The Last Gent
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This is why I believe he's SM's human gofer, who can do the stuff that he for whatever reason can't.

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splodingheads
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i was thinking i think masky is totheark consider his last video says smile for the camera and in j's he's right at the camera maybe that's him smiling also i think he's merely messing with J like he's saying na na look at me while else would he go in just to sit there and dangle his feet

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