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[Viral] "There's Something In The Sea" - Bioshock 2?
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ArianAce1234 wrote:
Wait a minute, didn't Fontaine die at the end of the first one? How could he still be alive?


he wouldn't be. we're just trying to connect the characters together as Oaks was a figure during the civil war at the same time Atlas was and thus Fontaine. not really sure how this'd help us in the long run but it's something to think about.
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ArianAce1234 wrote:
Wait a minute, didn't Fontaine die at the end of the first one? How could he still be alive?

He's not. I think the inclusion of his legacy is in order to introduce Catherine and Evelyn, who are probably going to play parts later on in the game series. Also, as I've mentioned, it's a nice way of taking a swipe at John Birchers...

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 		I don't know, I just can't buy Oakes = Fontaine = Atlas. Atlas wasn't just a voice during the revolution, he was a figure and he interacted with his soldiers. Remember from Bioshock 1:
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In the orphanage/Atlas' base,the tape recording where McClintock gets back from the raid and walks in on Fontaine making his own recording.

I just think that it's too difficult for Fontaine to play two roles at once without having surgery like each time, rebels would have looked at Oakes and said, "Why is Atlas dressed up in a Navy uniform?" Then again, I guess they could've known, and Oakes was just an extra precaution so Atlas could fight without being such a huge target. I don't know, I'm sure the truth will come out sooner or later.

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 		I've already mentioned my theory: He wasn't more than one person at the same time, he was Oakes first, THEN Fontaine, THEN Atlas.

And, just like nobody knew that Atlas was Fontaine (new face, new voice), nobody knew that Fontaine was Oakes. The only people who knew him as Oakes, presumably, were Catherine and Evelyn.

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 		Having listened to the tapes and phone messages again, I am increasingly convinced that Capt. Casey Ferrence is Lynch. The accent is different, but the lisp and intonations are very similar.

Apparently Lynch's terrible accent wasn't just put on to enhance his cover story, it was also to make sure that when he met Mark in person, Mark wouldn't make the connection.

And surprisingly, his New England accent is pretty good... perhaps it's his natural accent.

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Sylocat wrote:
Having listened to the tapes and phone messages again, I am increasingly convinced that Capt. Casey Ferrence is Lynch. The accent is different, but the lisp and intonations are very similar.


I have to disagree. Carmady was keeping an eye on Lynch over in Ireland before he disappeared. At the pace that the ship that Mark is currently on is going, it would not have made the US waters in time to pick up Mark. Further, this is one of Phil's trusted connections, which would imply that either Phil is in on it or that Lynch has also been fooling Phil all this time.

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Capitan_Barbossa wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
Having listened to the tapes and phone messages again, I am increasingly convinced that Capt. Casey Ferrence is Lynch. The accent is different, but the lisp and intonations are very similar.


I have to disagree. Carmady was keeping an eye on Lynch over in Ireland before he disappeared. At the pace that the ship that Mark is currently on is going, it would not have made the US waters in time to pick up Mark. Further, this is one of Phil's trusted connections, which would imply that either Phil is in on it or that Lynch has also been fooling Phil all this time.

Fooling Phil isn't really out of the realm of possibility. He's fairly eccentric as it is. And was Carmady keeping an eye on him? All I remember is Carmady saying his sources put Lynch in Ireland. What was the time frame between Lynch "being in Ireland" and Mark getting in touch with the Captain?

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Cataclysmic V wrote:
Capitan_Barbossa wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
Having listened to the tapes and phone messages again, I am increasingly convinced that Capt. Casey Ferrence is Lynch. The accent is different, but the lisp and intonations are very similar.


I have to disagree. Carmady was keeping an eye on Lynch over in Ireland before he disappeared. At the pace that the ship that Mark is currently on is going, it would not have made the US waters in time to pick up Mark. Further, this is one of Phil's trusted connections, which would imply that either Phil is in on it or that Lynch has also been fooling Phil all this time.

Fooling Phil isn't really out of the realm of possibility. He's fairly eccentric as it is. And was Carmady keeping an eye on him? All I remember is Carmady saying his sources put Lynch in Ireland. What was the time frame between Lynch "being in Ireland" and Mark getting in touch with the Captain?
I agree, Phil considers Mark one of his trusted contacts, so if Mark mentioned Phil to Lynch he could have used the time between then and now to gain his trust. If it was enough time for Mark there was enough time for Lynch. Maybe we should go back and see if there are any letters to Lynch that mention Phil?

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Capitan_Barbossa wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
Having listened to the tapes and phone messages again, I am increasingly convinced that Capt. Casey Ferrence is Lynch. The accent is different, but the lisp and intonations are very similar.


I have to disagree. Carmady was keeping an eye on Lynch over in Ireland before he disappeared. At the pace that the ship that Mark is currently on is going, it would not have made the US waters in time to pick up Mark. Further, this is one of Phil's trusted connections, which would imply that either Phil is in on it or that Lynch has also been fooling Phil all this time.

Wasn't it Lynch who broke into Mark's home and left that film canister? Lynch gets around, and he's good at shaking people off his trail.

And given that Phil is the one who sent Mark the first story about Utropolis, we know that Phil has a connection to Lex Harlan, who published Lutwidge's stories, which Lynch almost certainly knows about. We know that Lynch has been searching for Rapture for quite a while, he could have been using Phil all that time to make more connections, sending more people on the Red Queen's Race. We don't know about any of them because none of them ever made it as far as Mark has.

And while I don't think Phil is in on it, I don't think he's terribly difficult to trick.

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 		Annnnnnnnnnnnd we have an update.

Now there's a golden Buddha statue on the shelf below the box (there doesn't seem to be anything you can click on it, but it's pretty), and they've added an option for you to close the window to block out the background noise (very nice). Also, Mark has updated the chart with the coordinates of the C-47's last mission.

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 		Hmm... this could be nothing or it could be something...

I clicked on the puzzle box again, and this time it opened to the 5x5 grid. I entered Carrowmore as before, and this time when the tubes came up, the first message played is "BUT KNOW YET THE POINT WHERE THE SKY TRAIN DERAILED," I don't have to answer the other questions to get there.

Well, I'm off to try my last round of solutions and see if any of them work this time.

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 		There is also a notes on the type writer and on the wall. There is an indicating the friction between the captain and loyl followers and the 1st mate and his lot during the height of the storm. Mark also wrote about the captain's need to protect the cargo at all cost, the plaster buddha statues that are painted gold.

Updated note on type writer indicates Mark is really not so sure the Captain is very stable.

Ever read any pirate books, Mark?
Stuff is usually hidden in stuff that cheap.

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 		Well, Mark did snatch one of the Buddhas and take it to his room, which indicates he might be a little suspicious.

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 		Weird, Buddha's got ten fingers but only eight toes

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mmm wrote:
Weird, Buddha's got ten fingers but only eight toes


This isn't the Lost thread, but it's starting to feel like it.

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