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[VIDEO] Entry #19
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chaos
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to be honest, if i had to give an explanation behind the audio, i'd say it would eb alex's editing the raws

either way, i doubt it'll have an actual application to knowing what causes it

unless they tell actually tell us what it is[the cause]
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Chief Poirot
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chaos wrote:
to be honest, if i had to give an explanation behind the audio, i'd say it would eb alex's editing the raws

either way, i doubt it'll have an actual application to knowing what causes it

unless they tell actually tell us what it is[the cause]

That's what J suggested at one point, in a video. And that's the only thing I'm willing to really go by. BUT, that doesn't explain the other distortions outside of Alex's raw footage. (Case in point: EFG's appearance). Unless that's been tampered with too.
So since there is no certain method to it, I'm not even going to bother wondering about the distortions. You're right that unless we're told the causation behind it, we probably won't know it. And, compared to everything else we don't know it's kinda minor.

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Chief Poirot wrote:
chaos wrote:
to be honest, if i had to give an explanation behind the audio, i'd say it would eb alex's editing the raws

either way, i doubt it'll have an actual application to knowing what causes it

unless they tell actually tell us what it is[the cause]

That's what J suggested at one point, in a video. And that's the only thing I'm willing to really go by. BUT, that doesn't explain the other distortions outside of Alex's raw footage. (Case in point: EFG's appearance). Unless that's been tampered with too.
So since there is no certain method to it, I'm not even going to bother wondering about the distortions. You're right that unless we're told the causation behind it, we probably won't know it. And, compared to everything else we don't know it's kinda minor.


I agree that there is little to be learned through analysis of the audio. I'm an audio engineer and have been performing a few tests here and there and it appeared to me that even after tracing the sources of audio I found little relevance to the story at hand... so far.

As for the Entry #19 footage being tampered with?

I'm wondering if J has been taking the prescription drugs he took from the house in Entry #17 they could have been sleeping pills. [?]

[Sidenote: Sleep-walking is a possible side-effect of some forms of sleeping pills.]

Just an idea...

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I don't know. I think that the audio distortion is important. It's a pretty clear motif, and I think it provides a link between SM and Mask. Maybe the technical details behind it aren't important, it's just there to hint at some link to SM.

The pace on this thing is driving me nuts.

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Chief Poirot
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Kilo wrote:
The pace on this thing is driving me nuts.

Yeah. Tell me about it.

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If Alex is totheark and totheark is Masky, then the only tapes Alex wouldn't have had access to are Entries 15 and 16, and there is no distortion on 15, and only one instance of visual tearing in Entry 16.

This is sort of a purposeful ridiculous theory, and I don't really buy Alex as the source of all the distortion, but if Alex = TTA = Masky, then he definitely had access to the majority of the tapes that have distortion.

I think it's much more likely that the distortions are just for dramatic effect, rather than something with a particular science of which situations it occurs. Rule of Scary and all that.

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Chief Poirot wrote:

That's what J suggested at one point, in a video. And that's the only thing I'm willing to really go by. BUT, that doesn't explain the other distortions outside of Alex's raw footage. (Case in point: EFG's appearance). Unless that's been tampered with too.
So since there is no certain method to it, I'm not even going to bother wondering about the distortions. You're right that unless we're told the causation behind it, we probably won't know it. And, compared to everything else we don't know it's kinda minor.
Masky could be tampering with the videos while J is gone for 3 hours. I'm not saying it's likely, but it could be possible. Of course why would he be tampering with the videos? Perhaps to scare J more? Which would make sense with my whole Slenderman feeds on fear theory.

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stormoftara wrote:
Chief Poirot wrote:

That's what J suggested at one point, in a video. And that's the only thing I'm willing to really go by. BUT, that doesn't explain the other distortions outside of Alex's raw footage. (Case in point: EFG's appearance). Unless that's been tampered with too.
So since there is no certain method to it, I'm not even going to bother wondering about the distortions. You're right that unless we're told the causation behind it, we probably won't know it. And, compared to everything else we don't know it's kinda minor.
Masky could be tampering with the videos while J is gone for 3 hours. I'm not saying it's likely, but it could be possible. Of course why would he be tampering with the videos? Perhaps to scare J more? Which would make sense with my whole Slenderman feeds on fear theory.

Or Masky just being a total dick and screwing with J even more. Really, Masky could have done anything during those three hours, or even when J was sleeping for that matter.

msheadwound, you said exactly what I was trying to phrase. It's more of a scare-tactic and for effect than having a rule behind it. Like with Entry 19, it was used to give Masky that dramatic "OMG I just appeared in your room" feel, than if he crept into camera view.

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AshleySix
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Holy shit.

I think I woke up the neighbors halfa mile away. Note to not ever watch all these videos at once when everyone is asleep and all you got is a candle.

I havent read this whole thing yet, so bare with me please.

I dont believe that anyone is out to help J. This next thing is all in my opinion, of course:

Slenderman saw the film guys as a target in the beginning, and picked a target like a lion to an antelope. He was trying to gain attention, then the film was dropped. Now, J is taking interest. Perhaps him and Maskeh are enemies. Perhaps someone just knows about Slendadude and wants to shit around with him by toying with his next "target".

I dont think anyone in this situation is hostile. The most so I believe is to be Maskyman, not Slenderman, but Slenderman hardly has any attention nowadays. mask is taking the spotlight.

I laughed my ass off when Masky did that Spiderman thing. I couldn't help it.

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As I've said before, there's no hard-and-fast rules on the distortion. I think the distortion, both audio and visual, are an unpredictable, variable side-effect, not something that always effects all equipment in the same way.

The missing audio would be Alex's editing, though, I assume.

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Kilo wrote:
You know, the distortion thing is really fucking hard to pin down. The only trend with audio distortion seems to be that when SM is actually seen, rather than being there, the audio goes to shit. Look at 1/4/6/10. Zero audio, and Alex is pretty much running/hiding from SM the whole time. 13- audio is fine, goes through a small bit of distortion, and then then audio shuts down HOLY SHIT SM RUN. 14, the audio is gone until SM goes off-camera, and presumably vanishes- and the audio is restored.

And then you look at 11 and 17, and there's zero audio distortion. But no one notices SM in those scenes, leading me back to the whole "Dim" thing we discussed oh so long ago.

But then we have entries like 7 and 12, where SM is quite visible and it's pretty clear someone sees him, but we don't really get anything, except for a visual tear and a weird filter effect, respectively.

And with Mask- I mean, god damn. It seems pretty clear that he's causing the distortion in 19, but it's not really consistent with anything- in 18, there's a small bit of audio distortion, but I'm pretty sure that's only when the camera is on the ground, and it's got nothing to do with Mask's presence.


Also, Entry 5. A shitload of distortion, but we never see SM. That would kind of lead me to think that it's a fairly unpredictable occurrence.

Out-of-the-blue theory time: Perhaps something in the distortions is what causes the ill-effects in the watchers, hence why Alex removed the audio, and J is getting sick. He didn't remove the audio, after all.

To be honest, I got the whole idea from the Wyoming Incident videos, what with the effects that some people claim to have gotten from watching them. I don't know, but it occurred to me.

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Kilo wrote:

The pace on this thing is driving me nuts.


maybe they are reading the forums, watching us over analyze everything, then moving forward with the plot from there.

that would be fuckt.

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chaos
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distortion: maybe alex's got some crap videorecorders
EDIT: and mentioning the wyoming incident is just inviting it to happen again..
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Okay, just going through the video again, and I noticed something.

Jay says "all of the following clips", so we know that it's not one continuous shot.
When Jay was editing the video together, he leaves a second or two of black between each clip.
However, there is NO black screen between MM appearing in the room and the shot of Jay's bed being empty, which means that whole section was one single clip.
This means that for some reason, the camera didn't record MM entering the room or moving around the room, and it also didn't record either MM or Jay leaving the room.
It's also worth noting that there IS a black screen between MM appearing at the window and MM appearing in the room, so that would suggest that nothing of interest happens between those two clips - meaning MM probably stayed at the window without moving for a fairly long time, since Jay edited out the gap.

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chaos wrote:
distortion: maybe alex's got some crap videorecorders
EDIT: and mentioning the wyoming incident is just inviting it to happen again..

I have never heard of it. Google-tiem.

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