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[Chief Poirot]

[stormoftara]

[Thenre]

Alright, we've been discussing this in the Entry 19 thread but I think it should be posted here as well since it has some intense effects on the speculation that everyone is doing. Also something new.

The following are picks showing the window without Masky there and the window WITH Masky there AFTER JAY LEFT.

http://u1.imgupload.co.uk/1259625600/df8d_maskynotthere.png
http://u1.imgupload.co.uk/1259625600/7ee0_maskythere.png

That shows MM NOT there in the first one (it's before Jay goes to bed) and MM there while Jay is gone. It's very clearly seen. I tried playing with the contrast but the fact that he was behind blinds made it hard to single him out.

This means that Masky was not with Jay while Jay was gone and was watching for him to come back. This means that either Jay is under his own control, Jay is under Slenderman's control, or Masky can control Jay without being near him. Options 1 and 2 seem the most likely.

Anyways on to something new, I may have missed it in my prior lurking but has anyone mentioned that the abandoned house looks suspiciously like Alex's house. It has the same couch, blinds, set up, etc. This could mean that they just have one house that they have set up but Jay never mentions where the house that he got the tip about was. It was also mentioned that Alex's house was out there (as in in the woods) during the interview with Tim in Entry 15.

Other evidence includes that both times Jay called out a name inside the house he used Alex's first, Alex's drawings are everywhere inside, and there was blood in the sink (remember that in entry 14 Alex was covered in blood).

Just an idea. I shot him a message about it, we'll see if he responds.

Edit: Nevermind, I just noticed that somebody had mentioned the house thing before. I'm an idiot. Still my 2 cents on the issue though.

[Badgerconda]

I still don't think you see masky after J disappears from the video. It's like seeing things in the clouds. the low youtube quality combined with the nature of the horizontal black on white bars makes it easy to see things you want to see, if you're looking for it hard enough.

When masky first appears while J is sleeping, it's pretty clear, and this one, not so much (his face seems to disappear if you lean in closer, and reappear if you back up). I think it's an optical illusion.

[Thenre]

[TheAtroxious]

Yeah, he is there in the window. You can compare frames: Before J left when he's looking in the window, while he's in the room with J, and afterward, when he's outside the room again and J is gone. There's the same figure in the window in about the same place. You might have to adjust your brightness/contrast/gamma filter, but it's there.

[BaronVonCakeman]

[Thenre]

[Ish]

I still feel like The Masked Man is trying to protect J. Remember the words to Signal. They sound vaguely threatening, but "I will surround your bed, close the windows, so that none will ever again be able to enter."

He surrounds the bed, but does nothing to harm J. Instead, what does he do? He watches. Maybe whispers, we can't hear. "Just wait till we are alone together. I will tell you something new." He screws up the video/audio, but "Banish them. Refuse to speak. Leave them." Perhaps he has secrets that he doesn't want shared right out? Thus the mask? And, again, he doesn't harm a hair on J's head. In face, he TUCKS J IN, pulls the bedsheets from J's waist up to his shoulders.

And, to kill the blood in the sink from Alex's head wound... If that was the same blood from Entry 14, the blood would be black with the age of three years. No, that looked relatively fresh, see how bright it was? It couldn't have been more than a few minutes old. (Unless, y'know. It's just red paint.) Also, scalp wounds like the one Alex had bleed profusely, but that also means that they scab up rather quickly. By the end of Entry 14, the blood had stopped flowing, and there wasn't enough of it to fill the sink.

I don't know if the bullet casing truly has anything to do with it. It could be a red herring.

[Sylvine]

[Two2teps]

Don't know if this is any help, just a three frame animated gif of before Jay enters, while hes laying down, and after he's gone. The images are straight screen caps with no fancy futz'n with the settings.

[Badgerconda]

[Thenre]

[Guest]

I want it to be Slendy looking into the empty room so bad... that will show one of two things:

1. Masky took J somewhere to hide him from Slendy

2. Masky took J somewhere before Slendy could save J from Masky

I don't think both are evil at all. There's still a possibility that's true but I just see two opposing forces here... at least that's what it looks like to me.

[SweetHat]

I can see the face in the window after Jay left the room, but I guess it's possible it could be an optical illusion.
Maybe it'd be best to ask Jay, since he has the original three hours of footage? Maybe he didn't spot the face before, and he could tell us if it moves during the three hours at all.


Anyway, been going back over old stuff, and I'm wondering about a couple of points.

First, people were mentioning that Tim's arms had scars on them in entry 15, but not in other entries.
Watching #15 for myself, all I could spot on his arms were brown marks.
Is that what everybody else is seeing? If so, are those definitely scars?

Second, one of totheark's responses to a message via Youtube was "soundiseverything".
Jay also thinks that someone may have removed the audio from some tapes.
Perhaps totheark is that person, and he removed the audio because he thought it was important somehow?

Finally, a question: was the totheark Twitter ever confirmed as in-game or a gamejack?