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The truth behind it (?)
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HammerAndSickle
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darghe wrote:
if you wanna go for the blood.. lets think about the blood:

in entry 14 he probably got a hit on the head and it caused him to bleed (if it was a laceration he probably didnt feel it hurtin or bleeding but he couldve had a massive headache). But lets face it, the bleeding isnt that bad considering the timespan:

Minute 1: Get hit, bleeding begins
Minute 32: Blood went down the face, not very much blood

Also notice the ammount of blood on the ground (Entry 16) and the the ammount of blood in the sink. There is kinda the ammount of a weak nosebleed on the ground but the ammount of a huge gushing nosebleed in the sink.

This all is doesnt fit.. unless we think over something.

In Entry 14, J didnt say if the video jumpcutted or if he turned the cam around the change the tape. He just said 32 minutes passed. What if
1. the tape froze like in some other videos
2. Alex rewound to see what the cam had on
3. J lied to us and left out something

I like the 3rd option much, since totheark posted the video Messages and tells somebody has been keeping secrets which could only be Tim or Jay. I dont see Tim in the picture at the end. Tim has more destinctive facial features. I cant really tell for Jay though.
I say Jay is keepin something from us. Something he assumes to be dangerous and only Alex knows that because, well, he made the tapes.
Also back to the options, IŽd say we could even combine all options together and it still makes sense.
(Also Jay never showed us what pills he took with him or how the drawings look like or if the bullet was used)

As for the bloodstaines. I cant get over the fact that the ammount on the ground is lower then the ammount in the sink, unless its a gushing would and the wounded person did cover up the wound (or its nosebleed). If its the wound on the head from Alex, it wouldnt even drip (the blood wasnt even flowing down his face, it was already dry).
Here comes another part of my theory: 2 different houses.
Its not rare that some houses might look alike in America. Even here in Germany we have alot of houses who look alike inside. Of course there are similar things inside the videos that would speak for the Same-House-Theory but then I like this thread much: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28780
I will go for the red shelf thing. I believe they are 2 different shelves. IŽd like to agree with gonzaw there.

So IŽd say, one house from the earlier entries is Alex house. The house Jay visited is mostly Brians house. Now we know less about Brian. He could also have spotted Slender and couldve fallen for him and maybe recorded him too but thats too vague and cannot be said.
We just have to wait for more material Sad


Here's the kicker: you're wasting a lot of effort comparing the blood on Alex's face to the sink. But the tape with Alex was THREE YEARS AGO. Blood from that long ago even sitting in an abandoned house is going to dry up or disappear.

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darghe
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HammerAndSickle wrote:

Here's the kicker: you're wasting a lot of effort comparing the blood on Alex's face to the sink. But the tape with Alex was THREE YEARS AGO. Blood from that long ago even sitting in an abandoned house is going to dry up or disappear.


Which is why I revealed the 2-Different-House-Theory later. Its hightly doubtful Alex bleeded in his sink and he didnt remove it

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gordon_ramsay
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darghe wrote:
HammerAndSickle wrote:

Here's the kicker: you're wasting a lot of effort comparing the blood on Alex's face to the sink. But the tape with Alex was THREE YEARS AGO. Blood from that long ago even sitting in an abandoned house is going to dry up or disappear.


Which is why I revealed the 2-Different-House-Theory later. Its hightly doubtful Alex bleeded in his sink and he didnt remove it


OOOOOR, something you people have neglected to mention would be the fact that:

The blood could have been RECENT!
(shocked gasps and little babies crying)


Alex could have bled recently from an attack, or Brian, or Tim, or TTA, to name a few.

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Ish
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 		Look at the color of the blood. It's bright red. It's very, very fresh.

A minor scratch on the scalp would bleed about that much, I've got the scars and experience to say that, but they seal fairly quickly. Three years? That blood would be black or brown. Assuming that, y'know. No one ever used that sink again.

As for the bullet casing, why was it underneath things? Remember, he had to pick an object up to reveal the casing. If there had been a gunshot leading to the blood being that fresh, it should have been on the top layer of debris, not the floor.

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darghe wrote:
if the bullet was used)


If I recall correctly it was a loaded shell, that is, the brass casing and bullet, intact. Had it been fired, it would have just been the casing - the shell is ejected when the round is spent.

I however can't remember for the life of me if they actually show the whole thing - but it would be simple to figure out, as its obvious when the round is spent.
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 		I don't see why this isn't being discussed in the Trailhead.

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 		It already has been discussed in the trailhead... weeks and weeks ago.

People need to stop making new threads with rehashed old info.

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darghe
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 		if I knew this exact theory was already posted in the trailhead I wouldnt have posted it again
but then the trailhead is about 202 pages and I found this site just yesterday.
Also I never heard of the same theory as mine b4. w/e

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 		Re: The truth behind it (?)
darghe wrote:
Alex accidentally saw Slenderman and even recorded him on some of his tapes. For some reason, Alex is obsessed by Slenderman and tries to hunt him

nothingwe have seen, except the driving entry shows alex even wanting to see slendy, to the point of fleeing at the sight of him

darghe wrote:
After some time, Alex realises he cannot approach Slender directly, so he gave his tapes to his colleague Jay and told him to "Burn them". This of course was only a trick because Alex knew Jay would never burn anything video-recorded because he is a film student.

J conivnced alex to give them to him so alex didn't burn them
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 		Re: The truth behind it (?)
chaos wrote:
darghe wrote:
Alex accidentally saw Slenderman and even recorded him on some of his tapes. For some reason, Alex is obsessed by Slenderman and tries to hunt him

nothingwe have seen, except the driving entry shows alex even wanting to see slendy, to the point of fleeing at the sight of him


In Entry 4, Alex runs after him but he loses him instantly.
Entry 13, where he catches a glimpse of Slender behind the fence. He runs after Slender, loses sight again. Then he finds him again, yet does no effort to run away.

chaos wrote:
darghe wrote:
After some time, Alex realises he cannot approach Slender directly, so he gave his tapes to his colleague Jay and told him to "Burn them". This of course was only a trick because Alex knew Jay would never burn anything video-recorded because he is a film student.

J conivnced alex to give them to him so alex didn't burn them


Then why didnt he burn them himself from the very beginning. Mentioning them to Jay was enough to get Jay involved or atleast interested in it. And even if they were burned, there are still some copies/rips/whatnot in the inventory of totheark.

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 		Re: The truth behind it (?)
darghe wrote:
In Entry 4, Alex runs after him but he loses him instantly.
Entry 13, where he catches a glimpse of Slender behind the fence. He runs after Slender, loses sight again. Then he finds him again, yet does no effort to run away.


I was just about to call total BS, but then I realized that he really doesn't necessarily run away in 13. We assume he turns around and flees, but we also often forget that the camera =|= Alex' face. He might have just put the camera down, twisting it in the process so that it faces the other direction. The vid cuts out too abruptly to see whether Alex actually moved or not - and whether it was forwards or backwards.

And possibly even more imprtant: You're right, it does actually appear that he is running AFTER Slendy in entry 4, not away from him. Never noticed that before. It's hard to tell due to the erratic camerawork, though, might as well be running away after all.

HOWEVER, what about entry 1, 6, and most importantly, entry 10? He could have invited Slendy for tea right then, the guy was on his porch. And the whole of Entry 10 is Alex running from SM, and SM following him, then more running, etc. That blows a big hole in Your theory.

Unless You want to argue that those were early encounters and he was still scared instead of fascinated back then.

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Then why didnt he burn them himself from the very beginning.


Because if he did, there would be no story. Willing suspension of disbelief, mate Wink

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Sylvine wrote:

HOWEVER, what about entry 1, 6, and most importantly, entry 10? He could have invited Slendy for tea right then, the guy was on his porch. And the whole of Entry 10 is Alex running from SM, and SM following him, then more running, etc. That blows a big hole in Your theory.


That is right. He is scared shitless and runs away from him in Entry 10.
I see it this way:
As I mentioned before, Slender doesnt like to be on tape, thus seeking out for Alex to get rid of the tapes. He does find the house but maybe made strange noises or something what made Alex notice (we dont know since the sound is missing). Alex may have thought some burglar wants to break in and shockingly found Slenderman standing in front of his house. Common sense kicks in and you are scared like fuck upon seeing this. And IŽd like to say.. I would put 1, 6, 10 and 13 in order. Of course they dont happen in row because they are on different tapes.
Even after that happening, Alex still wonders whats up with this Slenderguy and upon seeing him in broad day or on a well lit playground he decides to follow him and face him. Of course this is a dangerous situation considering that Slenderman did stalk him and even was in his room but then the same thing is with Jay. He just wanted to find out where Alex is and looks through the tapes but now someone attacked him and stalked him and whatnot. He still keeps on looking through the tapes and doesnt leave his home.
tl;dr these guys lack common sense and put themselves in great danger for their curiousness.

As for the tape burning. I see them too as plotdevice but indicated by Alex himself like I said before.

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static1800 wrote:
It already has been discussed in the trailhead... weeks and weeks ago.

People need to stop making new threads with rehashed old info.


This forum needs a damned Mod, is what it is.

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 		mayhaps there should be a thread with the op a compilation of all previously discussed topics?

or the trailhead can just be updated with a list of things that have been discussed thoroughly enough already?

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Ish wrote:
Look at the color of the blood. It's bright red. It's very, very fresh.

A minor scratch on the scalp would bleed about that much, I've got the scars and experience to say that, but they seal fairly quickly. Three years? That blood would be black or brown. Assuming that, y'know. No one ever used that sink again.

As for the bullet casing, why was it underneath things? Remember, he had to pick an object up to reveal the casing. If there had been a gunshot leading to the blood being that fresh, it should have been on the top layer of debris, not the floor.


It's stage blood. As in, it does not turn brown with oxidisation. I think the fact that J scratches at it is supposed to indicate that it's not completely fresh, but it's most likely not supposed to be three years old either.

The creators probably didn't go around bleeding people just to get realistic blood that they could use for their production, y'know.

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