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TheAtroxious
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Okay, two things: How do we know the jacket is the same as in Entry 19? It looks a hell of a lot lighter to me.

And secondly, I don't think you're going to find any paintings that match the one fro the Entry online. It looks like an original to me, like something that perhaps was painted by a friend of theirs for the series or something they had around the house. A lot of people I know have original landscape paintings in oils or acrylics that they bought just so that the walls didn't look so empty.

I seriously doubt it's some famous work.

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Well, evidence points to Tim being masky/TTA, at this point, but I don't think it's 100%. Damn close, though.

Here's my theoretical sequence of events..

First, something happens around the time of the original Marble Hornets tapings, that causes some issues with Tim. Possibly, this is what's happening to J currently.

Tim obtains 'da peelz' (or pills, if you prefer) from god-knows-where, which prevent/protect against what ever is in the process of happening to him. Sometime around now, he appears in entry 20, suffering some minor ill effects because he just started taking the pills. Some coughing/distortion. He takes da peelz for the next several years and 'recovers' but needs to still take them to remain healthy/stable.

Tim, living in (or possibly just stashing his belongings or hiding out in) Brian's old house, meets with Jay for the interview. He appears normal and causes no distortion because he's been taking 'da peelz' for so long.

Jay, in the VERY NEXT ENTRY goes to Brian's old house, searches around, finds Tim's water bottle, and his pills. Takes Tim's last full bottle of da peelz (the source of which is no longer available?) and Tim finds himself out of medication. Starts to go crazy/get sick, and transforms into he who we now know as Masky.

Now, if he's TTA, he lures Jay back to the house with his entry-- otherwise, he just keeps his eyes open, and attacks Jay when he happens to return. Possibly trying to recover the pills, or failing that, get an opportunity to follow Jay to wherever the pills are.

During his attack, he has a seizure (because he no longer has 'da peelz' so the progression of whatever started happening to him three years ago continues), and Jay gets away.

After this, Masky lurks in Jay's room, and in his semi-feral state takes an entire bottle of peelz to try and fix himself.... and hasn't been heard from/seen since. Is Tim cured? did he OD and die? or something even worse?

Obviously, this doesn't explain nearly everything, very likely is not correct, and has some holes to fill in, but I think it makes up a good potential framework of what happened.

Still, many unanswered questions, even if I'm right about everything (I'm probably not), what is happening to Tim/Jay? What ARE the pills? where did Tim get them from?


Also, I had a feeling while watching that the painting was important... I actually paused on it for a few minutes trying to see a hint of Slendy somewhere in the painting, but I couldn't see anything.

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Makes a lot of sense, Badger. So, Tim is essentially living at Brian's house, and in Entry 16 J. almost encountered him. Then there's Addition, Tim stalking J. like a creeper.

Any real explanation for the bullet casing? Where did that come from and why would Tim/Masky/totheark take it?

Why would he live in Brian's house though? Why not his own house?

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this entry pretty much confirmed that masky is Tim i remember thinking this when i saw the face comparison and thought the ears were eerily similar.
Stiny1234B wrote:
sorry for posting on older stuff, but I'm re-watching the interview with Tim and here's some of my notes..

- He's kind of slow to respond to most of these questions...

- When he starts talking about Alex recording himself, he just starts saying the words as if he memorized them almost; what I'm getting at is that he didn't really stutter in any of the words as he spoke...

- When asked about Brian's whereabouts he was REALLY slow to respond which is slightly suspicious

- He was scratching himself with a pencil when he brings up the dead animals, that's a slight indication that something's up

- Lastly, when Jay starts talking about the Slenderman sighting in the park, Tim starts to fidget around with the script. That's also a sign that he is uncomfortable with something in the conversation to the point that he says that he has to leave...very interesting...

Like I said, these are just notes I took as they happened taken from my perspective. I'm in a psychology class and we have been learning about deception in people lately...thought I'd bring this up. Take it for what it is, I guess...

i have been wanting a psychology person to see if they could see something we can't (i am not very good at reading people...)

my brother and i have been talking about the possible order of the entries. so far we think it is as follwed (i may be trouted for this..)
20
5
2
17
12
13
4
sometime after that #3 happens
7?
11?
10
8? (mike was very insistent that 1 followed this due to the fact that he turns off a lamp in the end of 8 while at the beginning of o1 turns off similar lamp, i convinced him otherwise as "different tapes..." )
1
6
14
what do you guys think?

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AxMxK wrote:
Makes a lot of sense, Badger. So, Tim is essentially living at Brian's house, and in Entry 16 J. almost encountered him. Then there's Addition, Tim stalking J. like a creeper.

Any real explanation for the bullet casing? Where did that come from and why would Tim/Masky/totheark take it?

Why would he live in Brian's house though? Why not his own house?


What if Tim did something to Brian? That could explain the bullet casing I guess and Brian's disappearance. His dead body could be in one of the locked rooms or gone. Tim takes over the house and 'lives' there i guess.

@above

Fidgedy movement and a fast response to some questions could mean that Tim was definitely lying. I wish he got his face though, that would have made it easier.

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magicmaster50060 wrote:
this entry pretty much confirmed that masky is Tim i remember thinking this when i saw the face comparison and thought the ears were eerily similar.
Stiny1234B wrote:
sorry for posting on older stuff, but I'm re-watching the interview with Tim and here's some of my notes..

- He's kind of slow to respond to most of these questions...

- When he starts talking about Alex recording himself, he just starts saying the words as if he memorized them almost; what I'm getting at is that he didn't really stutter in any of the words as he spoke...

- When asked about Brian's whereabouts he was REALLY slow to respond which is slightly suspicious

- He was scratching himself with a pencil when he brings up the dead animals, that's a slight indication that something's up

- Lastly, when Jay starts talking about the Slenderman sighting in the park, Tim starts to fidget around with the script. That's also a sign that he is uncomfortable with something in the conversation to the point that he says that he has to leave...very interesting...

Like I said, these are just notes I took as they happened taken from my perspective. I'm in a psychology class and we have been learning about deception in people lately...thought I'd bring this up. Take it for what it is, I guess...

i have been wanting a psychology person to see if they could see something we can't (i am not very good at reading people...)

my brother and i have been talking about the possible order of the entries. so far we think it is as follwed (i may be trouted for this..)
20
5
2
17
12
13
4
sometime after that #3 happens
7?
11?
10
8? (mike was very insistent that 1 followed this due to the fact that he turns off a lamp in the end of 8 while at the beginning of o1 turns off similar lamp, i convinced him otherwise as "different tapes..." )
1
6
14
what do you guys think?


I don't know about the order, but

10 should come before 11, because slender man is outside during 10 and inside in 11.


edit: wait I'm splitting 11 in half ignore me

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Badgerconda wrote:
Well, evidence points to Tim being masky/TTA, at this point, but I don't think it's 100%. Damn close, though.

Here's my theoretical sequence of events..

First, something happens around the time of the original Marble Hornets tapings, that causes some issues with Tim. Possibly, this is what's happening to J currently.

Tim obtains 'da peelz' (or pills, if you prefer) from god-knows-where, which prevent/protect against what ever is in the process of happening to him. Sometime around now, he appears in entry 20, suffering some minor ill effects because he just started taking the pills. Some coughing/distortion. He takes da peelz for the next several years and 'recovers' but needs to still take them to remain healthy/stable.
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Except, from a film geek stand point... why would they start filming MH BEFORE they finalized the script?

A better order for making a movie, and IG they are film students and probably OOG, too, OR they have a knowledge of how to make movies at the very least, is: finalize script, pre (locations, etc.), film, edit, release.

Which means that Alex would have been this sick BEFORE they even found the locations, or at the very least began filming. IMO.

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I didn't say anything in my theory about when Alex was 'sick'. If you meant Tim, yeah, that's possible. I was giving more of a loose time frame, as in 'sometime around the period when Marble Hornets was being filmed, this happened to Tim'. Again, very, very loose framework. I'm not trying to nail down any specifics there, just toss out an idea for a general sequence of how things may have gone down.

Although it's possible they started filming, and then did some rewrites on parts of the script. I'm sure that wouldn't be the first time someone's realized that their script isn't making sense, working, or lining up with what's coming later. It could go either way in my opinion, but it's not really relevant to what I was trying to do there.

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I did mean Tim in the above post, not Alex. Sorry.

I just thought it was interesting to note, that Tim may have been "sick" before the filming even began. If that IS the case, then it could just point to the fact that he is the initial "shit disturber" who pissed off SM, not the MH guys, and that is interesting to me.

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It seems possible. If Slendy was stalking Tim, then it does kind of fit that Alex would see Slendy while walking his dog; it was sort of implied that Tim and Brian live in the same general (very general) rural-ish area as Alex in the interview.

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I'm sorry, did we figure out who was holding the camera? I'm too lazy to read back and I'm multitasking. Mad

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Vazhar wrote:
Returning to old material, since I was obviously misguided in my previous post buried now in several pages.

First off, I was away for a a bit so I didn't respond to you Dav, but I was talking about Jay refering to the audio clip being from Entry 10. TTA refuted that, but then again who's to say who is really right. I interpreted it at the time as Jay being wrong, and that was my source on claiming Jay had been wrong before.

Anyway, onto new topics, I just rewatched Entry #6 and there's an overlooked factor. Who's car is that? Does slendy now drive a silver car? Alex has the white Mustang, and the only other car the the series is red (The one they were taping MH in).

Well, thats the only car I remembered until I went back and re-watched entry 18. Jay drives a Silver car, you can see the hood of it at 2:57. Was Jay there and not remember it?



EDIT: Alright, maybe Jay does remember it. Maybe they've hidden things like this throughout the entire series. "You've been keeping secrets." W How do we know that all of his secrets are out in the open. I personally think that that there's more being kept from us than we believe.


Just wanted to follow this post up... I asked Jay about it and he replied.

J wrote:
It's not my car. I drive a silver Mazda hatchback. Good eye though.

-J.


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Droshi wrote:
Vazhar wrote:
Returning to old material, since I was obviously misguided in my previous post buried now in several pages.

First off, I was away for a a bit so I didn't respond to you Dav, but I was talking about Jay refering to the audio clip being from Entry 10. TTA refuted that, but then again who's to say who is really right. I interpreted it at the time as Jay being wrong, and that was my source on claiming Jay had been wrong before.

Anyway, onto new topics, I just rewatched Entry #6 and there's an overlooked factor. Who's car is that? Does slendy now drive a silver car? Alex has the white Mustang, and the only other car the the series is red (The one they were taping MH in).

Well, thats the only car I remembered until I went back and re-watched entry 18. Jay drives a Silver car, you can see the hood of it at 2:57. Was Jay there and not remember it?



EDIT: Alright, maybe Jay does remember it. Maybe they've hidden things like this throughout the entire series. "You've been keeping secrets." W How do we know that all of his secrets are out in the open. I personally think that that there's more being kept from us than we believe.


Just wanted to follow this post up... I asked Jay about it and he replied.

J wrote:
It's not my car. I drive a silver Mazda hatchback. Good eye though.

-J.


Sooo.. he knows its not his car? But it doesn't seem like he's saying it was intentional or if it was a mistake. I don't know. I think the car thing was a mistake. But who knows.

Also, I'm still curious about the bullet casing as well. And Brian. We saw him ONE time so far but in the storyline he seems really important. He just seems to have disappeared. And who knows, he could have disappeared a long time ago considering that everytime he's mentioned other than the one time he's seen, they say he's "out somewhere."

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xCaptainCannibal wrote:
Sooo.. he knows its not his car? But it doesn't seem like he's saying it was intentional or if it was a mistake. I don't know. I think the car thing was a mistake. But who knows.


I think it was too. Surely the presence of someone else's car at Alex's house which is in the middle of nowhere would at least be intriguing to him, haha.

No wait, I've got it. Slenderman drives a Sentra. Alex saw the car and turned on the camera to investigate. Then he saw Slenderman, who had pulled over to take a piss.

Laughing

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I've got it.

Slenderman? Just a drug dealer.

Alex saw Tim popping his good stuff, and asked where he could get some. Alex met up with Slendy who hooked him up with some pills. Alex gets addicted and runs out of money. Slendy starst stalking because he wants his money, about 20 dollars.


When you think about it, it really works more than it should. Sad

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