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MOVIELORD101
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Ollieda wrote:
that's what we're trying to work out
i know. I don't know how to do this decoding stuff.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:40 pm
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mjerick
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 		Still no luck with Grace. Sad

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I've been looking into Egyptian mythology with no luck. The quote on her back is from the Book of the Dead, and the pyramid/symbols on her arms are all related to the spells in the book on achieving various things in the afterlife.

Hasn't done me any good but thought I would share just in case someone else gets something out of it!


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Ollieda
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 		thats just what i've stumbled upon

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Her quote is wrong, the full thing is:

"He bestoweth wickedness on him that worketh wickedness, and right and truth upon him that followeth righteousness and truth" she doesn't seem to respond to this but could "wickedness on him that worketh wickedness" be the begining we were lacking?


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k8y1982
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mjerick wrote:
Still no luck with Grace. Sad

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I've been looking into Egyptian mythology with no luck. The quote on her back is from the Book of the Dead, and the pyramid/symbols on her arms are all related to the spells in the book on achieving various things in the afterlife.

Hasn't done me any good but thought I would share just in case someone else gets something out of it!


A VERY CLEVER PERSON ON FACEBOOK FIGURED IT OUT YAYYYYYYY

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fear followeth after truth


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MOVIELORD101
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 		Looks like we're going to need a code seen in the film to finish this, boys!

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mjerick
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 		Awesome!! Thanks for sharing!

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MOVIELORD101
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mjerick wrote:
Awesome!! Thanks for sharing!
what does it mean by "Looking to the stars will be to your credit!"?

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Ollieda
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 		also the question of "experimental subject?" - i guess its clues what to look for in the film!

did anyone catch the code she gave when you typed in the key, 2026 or something like that. Tried it but didn't work

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Ollieda
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 		I still don't get how you get to the key word even after knowing what it is.....k8y1982 do you mind getting the info of that guy on facebook and putting it in as a spoiler just to keep us amused until boxing day!

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mjerick
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 		Regarding the message you get if you give the wrong code:

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"Looking to the stars will be to your credit" probably means ... watch the credits at the end of the film! You know, where they list the stars. Wink Could be wrong, but that's my best guess!

There's also a slight chance that the "Experimental Subject?" is another clue - maybe a title/role that'll show up in the credits, assuming that's even where we're meant to be looking.


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MOVIELORD101
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 		I'm not seeing the movie till next Tuesday, so if anyone finds this code early, PLEASE post it here. Ok? thanks for your help, guys!

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MOVIELORD101
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 		I hear there's a MAJOR post credits scene with a surprise cameo. Maybe it's Moriarty?

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 		Chapter 7& 8 Assistance
Chapter 7& 8 De-coding Help
I know others have already discussed the de-coding on here, but I thought I would try to lay out Chapter 7 and 8 help here for others who are confused.

CHAPTER 7

Chapter 7 is about finding Mary & Grace Teddington.

The key pieces of information you need to decide are: type of building the girls are being held in and the district of east end where the building is located.

As Holmes:

Newspaper (note that several of the details in this summary are incorrect)

Baker Street Irregulars Map (note the types of possible locations & the districts)

Search of Teddington's Front Entrance:
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1. Teddy Bear under the bench [share this evidence with your Watson - he'll need it to interview Shirley]
2. Broken vase on the floor
3. Footprint on the carpet [note that the comments on this evidence say the clay is found in Whitechapel, London Docks, or Stepney]


As Watson:

Telegraph from Mrs. Kettle - Follow the Trail

Search Dr. Clarence's Hideout:
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1. Bath salts (white crystals on the desk)
2. Pipe with strange resin
3. Snuff on paper [note that it is the same type used by Tom Hunter]
4. Poisoned ink (next to the bath salts)
5. Order Letter [note that the Order says to hold the girls in a warehouse]
6. Library card


Police Report:
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Note that Shirley's teddy bear is named Mr. Burpy


Letter from Miles Judd:
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Judd claims to be holding the girls in the London Docks.


Interview Shirley:
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Gain her confidence by telling her that Mr. Burpy is safe at home. Then ask her about the direction she ran (how many turns did she make?) and what she heard while running (church bells)



CHAPTER 8

Chapter 8 is all about de-coding the puzzles on Grace's body. You should find three (3) puzzles on her body: her back, left arm and right arm.

Left Arm Puzzle:

The left arm shows a series of hieroglyphics with a crypto phrase beneath.

Ann Blanford tells you what the hieroglyphics mean
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Water Fear Ascend Decorate Oar


As for the code,
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use the substitution described in Holmes' decryption primer (replace each letter with the letter that precedes in the alphabet (e.g. replace C with B)
. Once you do this you'll find that the code reads:
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Ignore the ones that do not live
If you use this clue, the entire puzzle gives the result
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Fear (because the hieroglyphics for "fear" are the only symbols that are living creatures)


Right Arm Puzzle:

The right arm shows a series of symbols with Latin phrase beneath.

The modern egyptologists say that the symbols are not true hieroglyphics
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They say the birds look like capital Rs - look at the symbols as letters rather than symbols: they spell RAFTERS

Watson's latin teacher tells you that the latin phrase means
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Lacks a beginning and an end
so you should
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read RAFTERS without the first or last letter - AFTER


Center Back Puzzle:

Hugh Shurston provides Holmes with the cypher for the puzzle on Grace's back. If you use his cypher, you'll find that the puzzle reads:
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And he bestoweth right and truth on him that followeth righteousness and truth


The words in the boxes are
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And, Bestoweth, Truth, Followeth



Interviewing Grace:
Grace will only respond to him who says the key.

Using the puzzles above, "the key" is:
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Fear followeth after truth


If you say this, she will wake up from her hypnosis and give you the rest of the puzzle.

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She also gives you a code: 2026


To go forward, we will need a code from the movie. The clue for the code is:
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Look to the stars


That's it! Best of luck!

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djchristensen
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 		Gosh, I had a chance to see a sneak preview tonight of this movie, and get the code, but dad duty calls. Hopefully someone has gone to one tonight.

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Gupfee
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 		One small correction to the otherwise excellent explanation by bigrugger above:

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The key phrase is actually "fear followeth after". Each puzzle solves to one word. The puzzle on her back is looking for the word that matches the "missing row" in the pyramid. If you count the boxed words, 1 is "and", 3 is "bestoweth", 6 is "truth". You want the next boxed word which is the 10th and is "followeth". This is based on Ann Blandford's letter where she counts the "bricks" in the pyramid.

I only used these 3 words and they worked fine.


Did anyone else feel a slight "DRINK YOUR OVALTINE" moment at the end, while the animation raced you to the end of the puzzle to the big "now go see the movie!" conclusion? Wink
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