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Two2teps
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nospr wrote:

What did the slenderman and masky do in those three years? If tim is masky he obviously remembered about the slenderman.
Wouldn't the slenderman go after masky?


Perhaps Tim didn't remember, until this guy Jay started interviewing him about it. Masky showed up not long after Jay contacted Tim and interviewed him.

nospr wrote:

Does that mean Alex doesn't remember who Jay is? If Alex forgot about the slenderman woundn't he also forget why he is avoiding Jay.


No I think Alex would remember Jay. Jay certainly remember Alex even though he doesn't remember anything MH related. If Tim and Jay only met on the MH set, and most if not all of the MH memories are gone that explains why they (or at least Jay) didn't recognize each other.

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justcurious
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okay, does Alex say "it should have fled back upstairs" or "it should have led back upstairs"? Neither explain anything, but would reference totally different trains of thought.
Let me know what you think, thanks.

Edit: Also, Alex says "is it working now" first thing in the vid. Is it possible some distortion is caused by a damaged camera?

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HammerAndSickle
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I think there's a lot of speculation here. The posts on 21 and 22 seem the most logical.

To be honest, this is looking to be less and less paranormal all the time. I see it as a mystery, not a horror film. Think this way: what concrete evidence (or unexplained phenomena) do we have to lead to a paranormal conclusion?

Pretty much... none. The memory loss and odd behaviors could be caused simply by drifting sanity on the part of those being chronicled. Never in the series have we seen this "slender man" (a name, might I remind you, was only used OOG) do anything supernatural. He creeps and stalks, that's it. If I were taller I could do everything this guy has done Wink

TTA/Mask isn't paranormal, either. The "teleportation" someone referenced was obviously video distortion/editing. Aside from that it could just be someone with mental illness acting out whatever scenario they plan. The edited videos are evidence of this, even IG it's hard to imagine a paranormal entity sitting at a computer running video software just to hide "messages". But a mentally ill person could easily have done it.

The video distortion could be a number of things. If it is intentional on the part of either the slender man or the Masked man, then we can deduce that it was either video editing or malicious damage to the tapes. I've watched film from a camera that had been magnetically damaged before and it operated in the same intermittent audiovisual distortion we see here. Also, since this was all done with editing software OOG, we can assume that any proximity to slender man or masky is done for dramatic effect. Someone like Tim cannot physically cause localized video distortion like that simply by being on film.

I really like this series simply because it is NOT stereotypical horror. There's no "fire spirits" or paranormal activity, as far as I can see. This slender man is the only factor that cannot be explained, but I believe it will be in time. I also have a large vestment in the belief that anything in the entries we should have seen, would be obviously displayed. The most "hidden" thing thus far that was of any importance was the background SM in the entry with Brian in the car. And nearly everyone saw that one plain as day. All this audio editing, searching for "hands," SM in entries 21 and 22, etc. is grasping for straws at best and sad, pathetic, or desperate displays at worst. Let the series play out for itself.

As an aside, my own personal theory is that Seth wasn't "attacked". We see nothing, hear nothing, no screams, just some scuffle/audio distortion and then the camera falls. Seth could have EASILY just dropped the camera and walked away, which explains the calmness with which Alex responds, "Seth?" This also plays into the theory that when Alex lists those who are "gone," it refers to people who have deserted him in his paranoia. Alex seems more calm and "emo" if you will than panicked and fearful. To me his last confession of 22 seems to say "I'm sad no one believes me, I guess I'll just go home. This movie was a failure, everyone thinks I'm crazy for believing in slender man, etc. etc." albeit with Alex's mental illness to account for.

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Petrichor
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I got bored today and called up the local public pool after work to ask one of the maintenance directors some questions about pump rooms and the behind-the-scenes working of a public/large swimming pool, since the "they're in the bathhouse basement" theory still intrigues me. I told him basically why I was asking (he was amused but accommodating) and gave him the clearest verbal description of the location I could, making it clear that it seemed VERY large and that it was shot in the dark so it was hard to say some details.

Points in favour:

His input is that it sounds plausible it's a pump room, and although he's never heard of one being located underground, it's possible that one could be, or else that the pump room is located away from bathhouse in a separate building (I don't remember the aerial shot suggesting this, however) and has something else on top. His input was that their pump room is "behind big steel doors" but he didn't see why it wasn't feasible that one might be underground, especially in an older building or in a place where aesthetics were important.

He suggested something interesting as far as the size went. He told me he works for two facilities. One is less than seven years old and has a relatively small pump room. The other is nearly 25 years old and the pump room is HUGE. Apparently, just like computers and most other things, pumps and equipment have gotten smaller and smaller over time. Translation: older pump room = bigger pump room, which, IF it's a pool pump room, may explain why it was so huge. He also suggested there may be storage or other areas underground and the pump room could lead off of this, also explaining the extra space.

He said things to look for that would suggest a pump room: pipes (naturally), sumps (I can't find any older sumps on a cursory google image search to compare, but I didn't try very hard), and grates in the floor or, if the place is abandoned, scattered around (and there was a grate against a wall or doorway at some point).

Points against:

The pics I found online of pump rooms tend to be pretty tight. Unless it's the multi-function basement suggested above, or expensive parts like pumps have been removed before the building was closed down, this seems to kill the bathhouse basement theory right out, and suggests it may in fact be a mental hospital basement or some other building and the pipes are typical industrial/commercial building pipes, not pool-related at all.

Additionally there doesn't seem to be anything in the way of giant metal pumps in the video unless I am just not remembering them (possible and I don't have time to check right now, about to head out for the evening). See above, however, about removing expensive pumps. Also, I'm not sure how big commercial pumps are and forgot to ask for approximate sizes.

See: http://www.swimmingpoolsolutions.ltd.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Pumproom.jpg.jpg
And: http://searchingthesouth.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dsc03813.jpg

Anywho, I know I seem self-inflated or obsessed, but I swear to god it was solely boredom. I also realize that in the grand scheme of things the location of Entry 22 may or may not be of much importance, and probably isn't important at all, really. But I thought someone might be interested to learn what I learned, so here it is, for those intrigued/also bored. Take with several large grains of salt. Razz

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Uh, wanted to add my two image links were my reasons for thinking it might NOT be a pump room, not to suggest it was Razz I dunno though, my memory of the video is hazy (O NOES)

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gonzaw
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HammerAndSickle wrote:
I think there's a lot of speculation here. The posts on 21 and 22 seem the most logical.

To be honest, this is looking to be less and less paranormal all the time. I see it as a mystery, not a horror film. Think this way: what concrete evidence (or unexplained phenomena) do we have to lead to a paranormal conclusion?

Pretty much... none. The memory loss and odd behaviors could be caused simply by drifting sanity on the part of those being chronicled. Never in the series have we seen this "slender man" (a name, might I remind you, was only used OOG) do anything supernatural. He creeps and stalks, that's it. If I were taller I could do everything this guy has done Wink

TTA/Mask isn't paranormal, either. The "teleportation" someone referenced was obviously video distortion/editing. Aside from that it could just be someone with mental illness acting out whatever scenario they plan. The edited videos are evidence of this, even IG it's hard to imagine a paranormal entity sitting at a computer running video software just to hide "messages". But a mentally ill person could easily have done it.

The video distortion could be a number of things. If it is intentional on the part of either the slender man or the Masked man, then we can deduce that it was either video editing or malicious damage to the tapes. I've watched film from a camera that had been magnetically damaged before and it operated in the same intermittent audiovisual distortion we see here. Also, since this was all done with editing software OOG, we can assume that any proximity to slender man or masky is done for dramatic effect. Someone like Tim cannot physically cause localized video distortion like that simply by being on film.

I really like this series simply because it is NOT stereotypical horror. There's no "fire spirits" or paranormal activity, as far as I can see. This slender man is the only factor that cannot be explained, but I believe it will be in time. I also have a large vestment in the belief that anything in the entries we should have seen, would be obviously displayed. The most "hidden" thing thus far that was of any importance was the background SM in the entry with Brian in the car. And nearly everyone saw that one plain as day. All this audio editing, searching for "hands," SM in entries 21 and 22, etc. is grasping for straws at best and sad, pathetic, or desperate displays at worst. Let the series play out for itself.

As an aside, my own personal theory is that Seth wasn't "attacked". We see nothing, hear nothing, no screams, just some scuffle/audio distortion and then the camera falls. Seth could have EASILY just dropped the camera and walked away, which explains the calmness with which Alex responds, "Seth?" This also plays into the theory that when Alex lists those who are "gone," it refers to people who have deserted him in his paranoia. Alex seems more calm and "emo" if you will than panicked and fearful. To me his last confession of 22 seems to say "I'm sad no one believes me, I guess I'll just go home. This movie was a failure, everyone thinks I'm crazy for believing in slender man, etc. etc." albeit with Alex's mental illness to account for.


Actually, the most hidden thing regarding SM was his sighting in #11 near the blinds...

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Quote:
Never in the series have we seen this "slender man" (a name, might I remind you, was only used OOG) do anything supernatural. He creeps and stalks, that's it. If I were taller I could do everything this guy has done


So you can cross long distances nigh-instantly, while wearing a suit, like SM does in Entry 10? Explain the episodes of Entry 4, Entry 11, and Entry 14, all of which feature SM entering areas without making any noise and disappearing without a trace in areas that quite simply lack anywhere for something that size to hide.

The audio/video distortion has been mentioned too many times IG to merely be dramatic effect. If it was just a clue to the audience that SM is near and not an actual part of the story, Jay wouldn't be mentioning it in-game.

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ptlundholm wrote:
Hello there, I'm kinda new here but I've been lurking for a while...

So, why haven't anybody addressed the clear-as-day face appearing in frame at 4:34, just after the b/w distortion over Alex face kicks out? It might
be Seth checking the camera, but still, it should have been noted by now.

Seth seems to notice as well, as he gets the shakes right after. I feel the shakes haven't been properly discussed either, since they are hand made and not distortion.


Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I demand answers!

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blue5213 wrote:
Quote:
Never in the series have we seen this "slender man" (a name, might I remind you, was only used OOG) do anything supernatural. He creeps and stalks, that's it. If I were taller I could do everything this guy has done


So you can cross long distances nigh-instantly, while wearing a suit, like SM does in Entry 10? Explain the episodes of Entry 4, Entry 11, and Entry 14, all of which feature SM entering areas without making any noise and disappearing without a trace in areas that quite simply lack anywhere for something that size to hide.

The audio/video distortion has been mentioned too many times IG to merely be dramatic effect. If it was just a clue to the audience that SM is near and not an actual part of the story, Jay wouldn't be mentioning it in-game.

he coulda just ran or something ¬_¬
it's not impossible
as for being soundless, a few entries have removed audio anyway, and the rest coulda just been him walking lightly

EDIT: as for the wierd distortion, over alex's face, and the shakes, idk
i found the shakes kinda wierd when i saw them too
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ptlundholm wrote:
Hello there, I'm kinda new here but I've been lurking for a while...

So, why haven't anybody addressed the clear-as-day face appearing in frame at 4:34, just after the b/w distortion over Alex face kicks out? It might
be Seth checking the camera, but still, it should have been noted by now.

Seth seems to notice as well, as he gets the shakes right after. I feel the shakes haven't been properly discussed either, since they are hand made and not distortion.


I did put a pic of it on page 7. But, here it is again

You can see it as the camera moves away too. It could be there, but it could just as likely be nothing, or an effect of the lighting after the "white" kicks out.
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HammerAndSickle wrote:
The video distortion could be a number of things. If it is intentional on the part of either the slender man or the Masked man, then we can deduce that it was either video editing or malicious damage to the tapes. I've watched film from a camera that had been magnetically damaged before and it operated in the same intermittent audiovisual distortion we see here. Also, since this was all done with editing software OOG, we can assume that any proximity to slender man or masky is done for dramatic effect. Someone like Tim cannot physically cause localized video distortion like that simply by being on film.


No one has said anything about the fact the distortion on the film is purely digital distortion. It's the type of distortion you get with a video editor. They could be clues left by Alex or edits made by someone to prevent the truth from being shown.

The distortion in Jay's recent videos could be masky tampering with the videos.


(Obviously TTA has video editing skills)

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Slendy head? Bit of a reach, but I don't see a continuation of the object where the light ends.
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TheMorrigan wrote:
Slendy head? Bit of a reach, but I don't see a continuation of the object where the light ends.


you might be on to something, here it is again outlined for everyone.


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ThaFrEaK
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Slender freak wrote:
TheMorrigan wrote:
Slendy head? Bit of a reach, but I don't see a continuation of the object where the light ends.


you might be on to something, here it is again outlined for everyone.


It's just a white PCP angle pipe.

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HammerAndSickle wrote:


TTA/Mask isn't paranormal, either. The "teleportation" someone referenced was obviously video distortion/editing. Aside from that it could just be someone with mental illness acting out whatever scenario they plan. The edited videos are evidence of this, even IG it's hard to imagine a paranormal entity sitting at a computer running video software just to hide "messages". But a mentally ill person could easily have done it.



Who ever said TTA was paranormal? Confused

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