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Abu Amaal
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 		INFO: Found the menhirs
The poem is Carnac by Eugène Guillevic.
http://www.brindin.com/pfguiher.htm

[quote]
Du milieu des menhirs
Le monde a l'air
De partir de là,
D'y revenir.
[\quote]


The translation we were sent was:

From the midst of the menhirs
It seems the world
Was born right here
And here returns

This has the look of an authentic translation, by an expert.

I haven't found the whole poem yet. It seems to be long.

- AA

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 7:47 pm
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dnbmathguy
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 		I got what MaggieMae, imbri, and a couple of others got.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 12:11 pm
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Shelina
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 		Re: INFO: Found the menhirs
Abu Amaal wrote:
The poem is Carnac by Eugène Guillevic.
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Isn't Carnac the most famous menhir site?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 2:05 pm
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dmax
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 		the magnificent
Naw, he was that great magician act on the old Carson show.
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That sounds like something HITLER would say!

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Barbarellany
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 		Interesting site for Carnac

http://www.mkzdk.org/carnac/guiden.html

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dmax
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 		incomplete collection...
I'm reviewing the messages from the seeker address, but only finding 6 letter posted here that are unique. I remember reading that there were 8. Can anyone complete the collection?

Like in LLL, I get the feeling that all clues sent to different places need to be put together to tell us something, although I have no idea what yet...
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That sounds like something HITLER would say!

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Caterpillar
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 		Eight replies. I'll put them here together for easy ref.

Quote:
1. Water is the softest and most yielding substance.
Yet nothing is better than water,
for overcoming the hard and rigid,
because nothing can compete with it.
Everyone knows that the soft and yielding
overcomes the rigid and hard,
but few can put this knowledge into practice.


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2. In all ages man has tried to account for himself and his surroundings. He did the best he could. He wondered why the water ran, why the trees grew, why the clouds floated, why the stars shone, why the sun and moon journeyed through the heavens. He was troubled about life and death, about darkness and dreams. The seas, the volcanoes, the lightning and thunder, the earthquake and cyclone, filled him with fear. Behind all life and growth and motion, and even inanimate things, he placed a spirit -- an intelligent being -- a fetich, person, something like himself -- a god, controlled by love and hate. To him causes and effects became gods -- supernatural beings. The Dawn was a maiden, wondrously fair, the Sun, a warrior and lover; the Night, a serpent, a wolf -- the Wind, a musician; Winter, a wild beast; Autumn, Proserpine gathering flowers.

Poets were the makers of these myths. They were the first to account for what they saw and felt. The great multitude mistook these fancies for facts. Myths strangely alike, were produced by most nations, and gradually took possession of the world.


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3. Life is a narrow vale between the cold and barren peaks of two ternities. We strive in vain to look beyond the heights. We cry aloud, and the only answer is the echo of our wailing cry. From the voiceless lips of the unreplying dead there comes no word; but in the night of death, hope sees a star, and listening love can hear the rustle of a wing.


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4. It is impossible to understand a myth as a continuous sequence. This is why we should be aware that if we try to read a myth as we read a novel or from left to right, we don't understand the myth, because we have to apprehend it as a totality and discover that the basic meaning of the myth is not conveyed by sequence of events . . . but . . . by bundles of events even though these events appear at different moments in the story. Therefore we have to read the myth more or less as we would read an orchestral score . . . And it is only by treating the myth as if it were an orchestral score, written stave after stave, that we can understand it as a totality, that we can extract meaning out of the myth.


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5. Every positive statement about ultimate things must be made in the suggestive form of myth, of poetry. For in this realm the direct and indicative forms of speech can only say "neti, neti" (Sanskrit for "no, no"), since what can be described and categorized must always belong to the conventional realm. Mythis a symbolic story which demonstrates the inner meaning of the universe and of human life.


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6. Thirty spokes are joined together in a wheel,
but it is the center hole
that allows the wheel to function.
We mold clay into a pot,
but it is the emptiness inside
that makes the vessel useful.
We fashion wood for a house,
but it is the emptiness inside
that makes it livable.
We work with the substantial,
but the emptiness is what we use


Quote:
7. What is the difference
between gods and humans?
That many waves before each
from an eternal stream
The waves lift us up;
the waves overcome us,
and we are swept away


And Dale's (thx Barbarellany):
Quote:
8. And I have felt . . . a sense sublime
Of something far more deeply interfused
Whose dwelling is the light of setting suns,
And the round of ocean and the living air,
And the blue sky, and in the mind of man;
A motion and a spirit, that impels
All thinking things, all objects of all thought,
And rolls through all things.


And then there's the common denominator:
Quote:
From the midst of the menhirs
It seems the world
Was born right here
And here returns


As per Abu Amaal, the excerpt is from the poem Carnac by Eugène Guillevic.

Excerpts from the poem (doesn't include ours/requires translation):
http://perso.club-internet.fr/kervoyal/litteratur/poaimweb/carnac.htm

Poet info:
http://bostonreview.mit.edu/BR25.5/sallis.html

Site Info:
Carnac is the most famous and the largest megalithic site in France. This site dates back to some seven thousand years when people started to move stones and to place them in the landscape, stones of up to 180 tons in weight. For what reason we don't know, despite many theories. The remnants of this culture - spread over thousands of miles mostly along the sea coasts - don't explain much. The common archaeological opinion says that the dolmens - artificial caves built of stones and stone plates - were made for burial purposes. For the standing stones - the menhirs - there isn't any reasonable explanation

Some great pics:
http://www.mkzdk.org/carnac/guiden.html

I think the common denominator would be Carnac (the place) as the poem itself is rather long and a bit obscure (at least on the net). Whether or not it is part of a task or merely some information, I don't know.

~cem

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Barbarellany
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 		Did you include Dale's I think his is a little different.

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dashcat
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 		I just keep seeing the Ws on #6

6. Thirty spokes are joined together in a wheel,
but it is the center hole
that allows the wheel to function.
We mold clay into a pot,
but it is the emptiness inside
that makes the vessel useful.
We fashion wood for a house,
but it is the emptiness inside
that makes it livable.
We work with the substantial,
but the emptiness is what we use

And wonder if there isn't a website amongst the capital letters from each quote.

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