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[raw19]

[SPEC] The Durga<->Melissa connection through time

[ThunderRazor]

some goods points made. These "magic" words do seem to be appearing. And probably not the wav file names, but more like what you mentioned.

[kass]

Possibly this is completely random and trout worthy but ...

We still have no clear idea what this 'mirror' in the tower is. Lots of theories kicking around, but nothing specific seems to fit. On a somewhat, perhaps slightly random note there's something I noticed which connects to the 'looking out the window in the tower' reference being Melissa watching out the webcam.

In one of the killer.jpgs, it's very clear to see a mirror behind Dana, reflecting some furniture and a few other bits and pieces. It's even visible in the corrupted image. Clearly, this mirror isn't in the tower, and obviously can't connect the two possibly different time zones to each other. But it is possibly the mirror in the tower that was being referred to. Melissa was watching out the webcam and when the Princess came up to look she noticed something change in the mirror through the window.

If that's NOT the case, which, tbh, does seem more likely, then this mirror is a piece of software that seems to be installed on Durga and Melissa has control over. Or someone in 'this' time does at least. Durga clearly has no control over her mirror, where it's placed or what it reflects. Melissa and the Flea, however, have put the mirror in the tower at the top of the stairs. Because of this, it seems to me that its unlikely that Melissa and Durga are one and the same. If Melissa can control the mirror in her scrambled state, why can't Durga? However, I'm slightly hesitant to say that its the mirror doing the transmission, as we were told by the Princess that Melissa had set up the mirrror, but she has no idea where these incoming transmissions are coming from. You'd think if they were coming from the mirror that she'd notice them if she's paying enough attention to spot the Princess in it. Even if the Flea set up the mirror, the fact that Melissa wouldn't notice the transmissions through it seems unlikely. From recent wavs it seems even Durga has some inkling that the bees may be coming from the reflection.

Its a [SPEC] but we still don't know why Melissa is on ilovebees, perhaps its because of some code in her which seeks out bees and considers it a safe harbor. Much like Durga's reflection is bee related. It could be they're not reflections of each other at all, but a common thread of programming. It may explain why an AI ended up on a random bee related web server in the first place.

Of course, this could just be one huge red trout. If so, I apologize and please delete at will. And I apologize again for the length.

[raw19]

You are assuming that Melissa put the mirror in her tower and therefore has control over it.

I think the mirror is in the tower simply because Melissa is there. It is the princess's word for the connection between the two AI's, and therefore where Melissa goes, so goes the connection.

I'm not sure Melissa even knows it's there. Does the princess say that Melissa set it up? Could the Flea be instructing Melissa how to make the connection? If Melissa and Durga are the same, the flea would probably have a lot more influence on the damaged Melissa than on the mostly in tact Durga.

edit: added the "not"

[cidkill99]

Ok, how about this:

Relating to my post here I believe durga and Mellissa to be the same entity. Its not that preposterous. Take a look at the original .wav files.

They all begin with the power outage or communications disruption that has been discussed so thorougly. We also know that Durga showed up on Jersey's PC direcly after this ("wetting" the system, and taking it over, much like Mellissa has done to ilovebees)

We know that Mellissa was an ONI Sentient AI that was on a forward command post, assigned to collect intel. They presumably found out about the whole plot to take over our Galaxy or solar system or whatever, but were debating on whether or not to jet back to earth, for fear of alerting the enemy of their presence. While out there, they also picked up a hitchhiker (presumed to be Jersey's father) and an Object (presumed to be the source of whatever sent mellissa back. I however, think it also was the method by which we have the flea). After these events, something cataclysmic happens that blows her back in time.

I propose that the communications disruption was the ship that Mellissa was on being destroyed (whether through the object they picked up or covenant detecting them), and that she inadvertently rode her way to Jersey's computer, partially damaged. She may have been instructed to go there by the castaway, or it may just be the only link back that was open (castaway talking to his son). After all the plot of her listening in to all the seperate story arcs and storing that data (and like I said, picking up another AI in the form of SP), I think that the eventual bombing of earth was what sent her back to our time, very destroyed and very fragmented.

As for how SP got there, who she is and how she's related to jump back to our time, see my other post.

More on this later, i think I'm about to get fired for fooling around with this too much

[kass]

[Danin]

I was just listening to curious_girl a few times and it seems to me that there are some significant links personality-wise between Durga and the Sleeping Princess. Jersey mentions how he can tell when Durga is gloating, which vaguely reminds me of "I do this when I am insufferably pleased with myself , ho ho! :-0". Durga also says that she is a "very curious girl", and she sounds quite sly and smirkish when she says it. I'm not sure if there's any significance to any of this, but it just seems like Durga and SP act very similar (except Durga doesn't speak in metaphor).

[jegger]

[EMAIL] Sent to SP

[Brink]

That's a good catch, you may be on to something. But if both Durga and Melissa are in 'the present', then how can SP be both Durga and SP at the same time?

[raw19]

geat e-mail Jegger!
I like the reference to the "magic mirror." it definitely fits in with her fairytales.

[raw19]

[Platonix]

Don't forget that Durga instinctively follows the SERE mantra. That's definitely not an element of the Sleeping Princess. That's more Operator material.

[raw19]

[jegger]

[GunsmithCat]