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[SPEC] First clue: T U R T L E POWER!
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fanofthepeople
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 		[SPEC] First clue: T U R T L E POWER!
In one of the emails from ladybee, when she tells the story of the sleeping princess and Dana, she gives us a clue that she found. The T U R T L E power T U R T L E power T U R T L E power Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle power! Did anyone ever figure that clue out?

[edited title to add label--Gupfee]

PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:55 pm
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Idran1701
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 		Maybe the Sleeping Princess is actually...April O'Neil! :O

...Well, it would be unexpected.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:23 pm
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Ceantari
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 		uh... Jan did mentioned that she and some friends 'turtled' a razor-back when confession privately to "Dad" in 'law_abiding.wav'

PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:34 pm
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JimmyJames
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 		So, then stealing or hijacking something is referred to as "Turtling" it. Could this be in reference to the Pious Flea hijacking the Queen?
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Astald
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 		I think the term "turtle" was more because they flipped the vehicle over, kind of like putting a turtle on its back and it is unable to right itself.

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Elec
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 		I think they wrecked it - flipped it over in a ditch. That's what I took her comment to mean (if you put a turtle on its back, it's pretty helpless).

Also, TURTLE POWER wasn't the clue or secret, I believe the secret was the page from the Queen's diary that SP stole but would only show if Dana came back. TURTLE POWER was just sort of a team cheer or rallying cry. Go team, go! Smile

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msekolpsu
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 		Someone mentioned that in the song, there's a reference to calling for help (via a phone). I thought this was the connection maybe.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 1:59 pm
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johnny5
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msekolpsu wrote:
Someone mentioned that in the song, there's a reference to calling for help (via a phone). I thought this was the connection maybe.


That was me.
The lyrics to the song that I found relevant:

    This is serious so give me a quarter.
    I was a witness, get me a reporter!
    Call April O'Neil in on this case, and
    You'd better hurry up, there's no time to waste!
    We need help, like quick, on the double.


I took it to mean that Payphones would be used at the Axon coordinates.

Of course, it may just have been a coincidence.

--john--

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:05 pm
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JimmyJames
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 		I must have missed the spec about the payphone correlation, but it makes sense when coupled with the subject line of Chapter V.

Quote:
Chapter V need help right quick, on the double


That led me to some spec. First, the PM's seem to definitely want us to use outside/seemingly irrelevant or unassociated data to solve the puzzles presented in the e-mails, instead of relying purely on in-game data as some have suggested. Second, if the final chapter title was the actual clue, with the hint given at the end, so what about the other chapter titles? To recap:

Quote:
Chapter I. The Sleeping Princess friendless and alone
Chapter II. Dana friendless and alone
*Chapter III was not listed
Chapter IV (no title for this chapter)
Chapter V need help right quick, on the double


Like a good little drone, I went searching...
Google Search: Friendless and Alone

Of course I turned up a lot of garbage, and of course, ILB references, but the third entry (The Fall Lyrics Parade http://homepage-host.uni.cc/w/fall/lyrics.html?http%3A//homepage-host.uni.cc/w/fall/tnsg.html) caught my eye, as it contained the phrase in a listing of song lyrics, which was the puzzle solve for the 5th title and the clue.

Low and behold, the song containing the lyrics was #7 on the list.

Quote:
Song 7: VIXEN

It had taken her a long time
Suddenly back on its own
To sit, friendless & alone
She is friendless and alone
I'm a vixen on its own

The triple gang & the throng
Did not feel helpless or alone

The vixen got no friends
She needs a poison pen
Even in Switzerland
The people cry "vixen"

Silver cross, all alone
The bird had flown
With their omen they'll fly
Had flown, silver cross
All alone
(So millions were broken hearted)
All alone, with no home
It's all alone

And some night, wind moves the leaves
They pick themselves up & run
Perhaps all that night possessed no way of telling time

It had taken her a long time
Suddenly back on its own
To sit, friendless & alone
She is friendless and alone
A man's trust, [appalling/a pole in] debt
To sit friendless and alone
With no home, with no home
Vixen's got no home
She is friendless and alone
A long time on its own
It shone around her
Triple gang


This song has some remarkable similarities to the story line. It seems to almost accurately describe Dana's current situation. Also, "The triple gang & the throng" Is the triple gang a description of M, PF, and SPDR, with us being the throng?

I thought that was fairly coincidental, so I looked for more references. In particular, I turned to songs #3 (the unlisted chapter) and #4 (the untitled chapter) **Due to some "questionable" and irrelevant content, I'm not going to post the entire lyrics. Also, I edited them slightly to better present what I felt may be relevant data. However, you can look at them in the site listed previously.**

Quote:
Song# 3: BARMY [top of page]

Just call me the first x 10

I lay waiting hopefully on sloped grass green
I am barmy, bleedin' barmy

A dramatic verse x 3

The programs lot
We break into tune
Take and bring a word
Ring a buzzer
Take and bring a word ( " )

A dramatic verse


I'm not sure if "Just call me the first x 10" means anything, but it does sound like it might. However, "Take and bring a word / Ring a buzzer /
Take and bring a word" sounds exactly like what we were to do at the payphones.

Quote:
Song# 4 WHAT YOU NEED


Quote:
"What you need / An oven mitt / What you need for your verbose kitchen"


The Kitchen was part of the solution to the secret axon puzzle

Quote:
What you need / Sex but not having it


Sounds like the big debate about SPARTAN's having children and/or Cortana and MC's little fling.

Quote:
What you need / One face / Two face new


Is the SP telling Dana she needs to disguise herself or change her identity?

Quote:
What you need / Slippery shoes for your horrible feet / We're obsessed with


I take this to mean that Dana needs to be more sneaky with her travels.

Quote:
Out of reach / What you need /On this we're all agreed / What you need
One: Face with girl past
Two: a profile that is low-key
And to meet your horrible new dad / With a grudge against me


One: Could this be the SP telling Dana to face up to her past, return, and take responsibilty?
Two: The SP telling Dana to keep a low profile and avoid detection by the queen?
Three: (notice it's not listed as "Three:" ) I believe this is the SP telling dana she needs to meet with the Pious Flea.

Quote:
What you need / Is a censor for pals like these.


The SP telling Dana she needs to get rid of the Queen and the Pious Flea, or that she (or we) needs to ignore them?

Quote:
What you need is
One. What face?
Two: face new
Three. Face mag for arse
Four. Three rules of audience
Five. Mug of Geoff Travis, framed
Six. The book Theft is Vision by the brothers Copeland.


One & Two, again the SP is telling Dana to change her identity, looks included. Most likely because the Queen saw her through the webcam and recognizes her.
Three, ??? I don't think it's relevant, but I honestly don't even understand what this sentence is saying. Face mag for Arse???
Four, I'm still thinking on this one. I think it may have meaning, but I haven't figured it out yet.
Five & Six, I'm not familiar with Geoff Travis or the book Theft is Vision by the brothers Copeland, and could not find anything in my search.

Also, "Out of reach" is referenced several times in the lyrics, which also leads me to Dana, who is "Out of reach" at least as far as the SP, Q, and PF are concerned.

Sorry for the long post, and sorry if this is Trout or completely irrelevant spec. However it did seem interesting to me and I thought I'd share.
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Max Sandstorm
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 		It seems that most of you know this already, but if you don't. T U R T L E Power is the song that's played at the end of the Ninja Turtles movie. I'm not sure if it was the first or second one, but i'm def sure it's not the third.

Also the "Turtling a razorback" comment Jan made, makes it clearer that this takes place in the Halo universe. [for those who didn't think so already] I would assume that a razorback is similar to the WartHog in Halo. I also think that it may be bigger than the standard Warthog, cause the Razorback I believe is the biggest of that species.

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Bobeo
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 		Actually, I think that a razorback is smaller than a warthog. Some one mentioned this fact in an earlier post. It would make sence with the universe. A vehicle that flips easy? yep. A smaller one than the warthog? Yep (the ATV) Maybe the ATV is called a Razorback

FYI: The razorback was cut from Halo 2 becusae it flipped too easily. I was looking forward to that vehicle but o well.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:31 pm
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Max Sandstorm
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 		Shocked Well shut my mouth!

Razz Anyways that makes more sense. Thanx for clearing that up. But there's still the matter of the T U R T L E Power thing. Hmmm...I wonder.

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