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Doh! That's it! for some reason, I was picturing it with the other colors. >.<

@Renren

389c4i5edifdb5jle with the e - 5 hint I think means to rot -5 it. When you do, you still get a string of jumbled bullshit. Split it up in to two letter/number segments and then do it as hex and you get "nEXt/bUO" May be the wrong thing, but, it's the only intelligible thing I got.

So. "They will save the nEXt/bUO in the end" ?
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Telos954 wrote:

389c4i5edifdb5jle with the e - 5 hint I think means to rot -5 it. When you do, you still get a string of jumbled bullshit. Split it up in to two letter/number segments and then do it as hex and you get "nEXt/bUO" May be the wrong thing, but, it's the only intelligible thing I got.

So. "They will save the nEXt/bUO in the end" ?


"nEXt/bUO" is not an anagram for something relevant, either...

if you separate out the "ntb" from the "EXUO", using rot13 changes "ntb" into "ago" but the "EXUO" part is still meaningless (RKHB)


why would he say "e - 5" though?

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Renren wrote:
Telos954 wrote:

389c4i5edifdb5jle with the e - 5 hint I think means to rot -5 it. When you do, you still get a string of jumbled bullshit. Split it up in to two letter/number segments and then do it as hex and you get "nEXt/bUO" May be the wrong thing, but, it's the only intelligible thing I got.

So. "They will save the nEXt/bUO in the end" ?


"nEXt/bUO" is not an anagram for something relevant, either...

if you separate out the "ntb" from the "EXUO", using rot13 changes "ntb" into "ago" but the "EXUO" part is still meaningless (RKHB)


why would he say "e - 5" though?


Not sure. I've seen people use similar as a hint to rot things before.
Could be far from it here.

Isaac is too vague at times.
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@Telos954 It's not a rotation cipher. It also includes punctuation and letter combinations. Enjoy yourself.

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I promise, though, that there is a method to it. I promise. A small hint, only because it's a particularly difficult part...

Isaac_Sumizone

What English letter looks most like thorn? Thorn as the rune. Now, what did thorn stand for in the older versions of English?


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@Isaac_Sumizone the 'thorn' is þ, I think. þ looks like a p sorta. Also, my old english is lacking, but if I remember correctly, it's either

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@isaac_sumizone 'That' or 'They'

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 		"Thorn" also looks like a b. And I think thorn was simply replaced with "th".

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Warbear wrote:
"Thorn" also looks like a b. And I think thorn was simply replaced with "th".


It was, phonetically.

But it developed into looking like a "Y"

However, the only letter out of those three "p, b, and y" that are in that little bit we can't figure out is "b", so I'm thinking it has to be that one, unless we have to send "389c4i5edifdb5jle" through some type of cipher and then there's a b or y in that.


Are we supposed to look at runes and figure out what this is? There's still so many possibilities for what it could be

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Warbear wrote:
"Thorn" also looks like a b. And I think thorn was simply replaced with "th".


He told me it was 'They'.

Edit::
Rather, he just said "They" directed at me. I asked how that was supposed to help solve it, but, I didn't get an answer.
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 		This probably isn't it but if you replace "b" with 'they" and turn all the numbers into their corresponding letters (a=1, e=5, etc) it comes up with this:
chicdieedifdtheyejle

out of that you can pull "child" "if" "they" "die" but it still leaves a string of random crap ("cedeje")

I'm probably going nowhere with this, I'm not that good with cifers


Edit:
Random note, if you put the remaining 6 letters into a hex translator, it comes up with

ÎÞ

That's thorn in the middle, right? Weird.

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Renren wrote:
This probably isn't it but if you replace "b" with 'they" and turn all the numbers into their corresponding letters (a=1, e=5, etc) it comes up with this:
chicdieedifdtheyejle

out of that you can pull "child" "if" "they" "die" but it still leaves a string of random crap ("cedeje")

I'm probably going nowhere with this, I'm not that good with cifers


Edit:
Random note, if you put the remaining 6 letters into a hex translator, it comes up with

ÎÞ

That's thorn in the middle, right? Weird.


Its a possibility that may be it. I'm going to look something up real quick and report back.

Edit :
Well shit, you can't search  on google or wikipedia.
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 		That "000E" is intriguing me, it seems like unicode 00DE
...which is capital letter thorn


Edit: Nevermind, "D" looks different

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That "000E" is intriguing me, it seems like unicode 00DE
...which is capital letter thorn


Edit: Nevermind, "D" looks different


http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/000e/index.htm

all the major info on the 000E character.

Edit ::
Instead of searching 000E or the character, putting SHIFT OUT in wikipedia gives

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Shift Out (SO) and Shift In (SI) are ASCII control characters 14 and 15, respectively (0xE and 0xF). The original meaning of those characters was to switch to a different character set and back. This was used, for instance, in the Russian character set known as KOI7, where SO starts printing Russian letters, and SI starts printing Latin letters again.

Some older printers used these characters to control special features, such as changing the font or ink color. On the Model 38 Teletype, SO switched to red printing while SI switched back to black printing.


Maybe there's something to that?
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 		Oohh, nice find.

Isaac said it includes punctuation. Maybe it's related to this "shift out" stuff? Some type of punctuation character set? I have no idea =/

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 		According to this site :
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/c0.html

Shift out's hex code is E. e - 5 may mean shift out 5 times?

iunno. grasping for straws here

Edit :: Haven't been there in forever, but Net-Force still exists. Hell yeah! They've got some nice tools.

They have an ascii shift tool, http://www.net-force.nl/tools/ascii_shift/

Ran the code through it, it didn't give me anything, but, it may come in handy
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 		"I changed the code a bit... A little easier for me to remember now. The only thing that will be affected is the first note..."
"j55n9j25c95mn"

So I guess we just start over? Or use the same thing? This is kind of overwhelming..

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@Telos954 It is a form of substitution cipher. The thorn derivative (which is not y, by the way) is an exception, as is the combination...

Isaac_Sumizone

@Telos954 that is represented by a letter looking similar to "eng" Use what you know already with past messages to solve more.



That should help I guess. Iunno. Mind's not right today. I'll pass it along to a friend and see what they think.
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