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Telos954
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 		Thanks for your thoughts, everyone.
Surprisingly, I'm taking it a lot better than everyone had thought. I guess since he went painlessly and quick (it took less than 10 seconds after they injected him.) I can be happy knowing he didn't suffer.

Any way, on track.
"Fortune is so variant, and the wheel so moveable"

Trump card #10, the Wheel of Fortune.

From wikipedia :
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Symbolism in the Mythopoetic Approach

In this approach, which views the Major Arcana as a journey through life taken by the character of the Fool (the Fool being the first card, or the zero card, of the Major Arcana), the Wheel of Fortune represents the intercession of random chance into the Fool's path. The card represents the forces that can help or hinder the querant suddenly or unpredictably.

It can also represent the underlying order that the Magician attempts to master. The letters on the wheel were intended by Waite to mean "Rota Taro Orat Tora Ator," which he "translated" (this term used loosely) to: "The Wheel of Taro[t] speaks the Law of Ator [Hathor, or Love]."[7]

Through its cross sum (the sum of the digits), it is closely connected to The Magician and The Sun (cards 1 and 19 of the Major Arcana respectively).[8] Each represents a break with the previously established order: the Magician starting the journey; The Wheel of Fortune introducing random chance; and The Sun reborn from the underworld.[9]



Mom said she donated all her Tarot books to this thing at the local library, so we don't have them on hand. She also said she thinks she lost her cards in the move from where she lived before, to where we are now. So, not much luck on that.
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Sirannon
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 		I'm so sorry for your loss, James. My thoughts are with you.

Regarding tarot stuff: I have a bunch of tarot books and a deck of my own, and will have them out of the moving boxes within a day or two. I'm wondering if the knight that was referred to before (Malory's Circle) has anything to do with Tarot as well?

(Apologies for being so useless lately. ergh moving)

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 		Coffee Am totally-tarot-challenged [tongue-twister] so don't know if this relates here: the knight-ish figure on Claire's new profile pic is Archangel Michael Slaying the Dragon (Satan). Guessing the two clocks represent 24 + 24 on Claire's FB status.

Only know that St Michael's Cathedral, located in Coventry, was heavily bombed during the 'Moonlight Serenade' raid.

Atm trying to make connex & wondering if the Butterfly Diagram Sun Spots (like a Nonogram graph) influence Vlad's machine. Had no PW joy if the "Timon JPEG" has Steg. Running it thru' a hex editor will show a 'steg string' tho' I have no skillz there.
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amandel wrote:
Coffee Am totally-tarot-challenged [tongue-twister] so don't know if this relates here: the knight-ish figure on Claire's new profile pic is Archangel Michael Slaying the Dragon (Satan). Guessing the two clocks represent 24 + 24 on Claire's FB status.

Only know that St Michael's Cathedral, located in Coventry, was heavily bombed during the 'Moonlight Serenade' raid.

Atm trying to make connex & wondering if the Butterfly Diagram Sun Spots (like a Nonogram graph) influence Vlad's machine. Had no PW joy if the "Timon JPEG" has Steg. Running it thru' a hex editor will show a 'steg string' tho' I have no skillz there.

I was under the impression any stegged stuff got removed by Facebook when it was uploaded.
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 		steg
From my understanding Telos is right - steg gets removed when FB uploads pics - otherwise files would be huge wouldn't they? I think Vanessa was just stupid in her original uploading.

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 		I found this interview just a few moments ago, backing up the claim of removing the stegging.

Quote:
Employee: It's way more than that: it's every viewable screen, with all the data behind every screen. So when we store your photos, we have six versions of your photos. We don't store the original: we make six different versions on the photo uploader and upload those six versions.


http://therumpus.net/2010/01/conversations-about-the-internet-5-anonymous-facebook-employee/
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 		Was certain you guys were spot on about the steg. So had moved on to some other stuff in the wiki and this FB quote from V.
Vanessa Atalanta wrote:
No thats just it - she kept going to churches though, talked about them being old and less likely to disappear or change [unlike other buildings] as time went on.


Wondering if Annabel's temporal experiences with the machine were more intense than just sending messages.
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Telos954
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amandel wrote:
Was certain you guys were spot on about the steg. So had moved on to some other stuff in the wiki and this FB quote from V.
Vanessa Atalanta wrote:
No thats just it - she kept going to churches though, talked about them being old and less likely to disappear or change [unlike other buildings] as time went on.


Wondering if Annabel's temporal experiences with the machine were more intense than just sending messages.


You mean like actually going back and forward through time as a full being?
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 		Not at all sure, Telos. Not forward, in any case. Just that something seems to have had an impact on her behavior. Dunno
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Telos954
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 		Hm.
Churches.
Messages back in time.
Churches don't change (often.)


Thinking on that - maybe the messages sent back were to churches, due to their static presence?

Taking that thought a bit further. Claire's aunt attended church quite a bit, and was studying to be a nun. I was thinking. Maybe Claire's family and V's family have/had some sort of tie?
Going off that - Maybe it's been planned from the start that V uses the machine to relay information to the past, and the reason she wanted Claire to go on that one saturday was because of this. An information drop of sorts?
Like - the machine already was used in the future, and they were collecting that information in the present.


Could be all bullshit, but, might have some grounds. Iunno.
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Hmm, just watching "The Secret Life of Chaos" on BBC 4, and saw the diagrams of Turing... looks like the initial Manchester Uni data set from Vanessa at the start. Relevant?
And there's butterflies as well....

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 		@Sarah: can only view the BBC Trailer but fingers crossed it's exported here soon. And how to help Claire's worried mom? Shocked

Claire Hoskyns' Mother on FB wrote:
I am not really sure on how to use this but, having got into my daughters account I am asking anyone there if they know where she is please. It's only ben a few days but feels like more - please, Claire, if you're reading this. Come home. [OOG: The game will resume today/this weekend piece-meal, properly gaining hold again from Sunday evening. Thank you for your patience.]

and
Vladimir Sirin on FB wrote:
One week, five days, a certain amount of hours - it is all relative. Vanessa is impatient in her thoughts and seeks to pursue matters quicker than anticipated. She is calmed - for now. Johan and I understand this 'grey-time' better than she. So does JPW though. [OOG: The game will resume today/this weekend piece-meal, properly gaining hold again from Sunday evening. Thank you for your patience.]

Vanessa Atalanta on FB wrote:
Right. What a month it's been! I'm ready to move on. I think. Heads really fuzzy sometimes though. Still, will be able to srt everything soon.

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 		Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm still around. Been lurking around off and on. Not really sure what to make of everything, still. I think we've made some great discoveries, but it all still feels disjointed. I don't know.
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 		Not really update worthy, but I figured it's something to bump this back up to the top of the list Razz

V 'liked' the picture of my dog in the doll dress.
Assuming she has time to do social things, I would assume she has a bit of 'free time'. Wonder if she ever solved that chess problem.
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Claire Hoskyns' Mother on FB wrote:
Our daughter is home and safe. Apologies if we worried anyone. Everything is fine now. Please don't call us.


BUT, she changed Claire's "about me" to: Can't ACT at moment 9.24 is the time, a passage from Acts of the Apostles.
Quote:
but their plot became known to Saul. They were also watching the gates day and night so that they might put him to death

Shocked Reckon Claire's mom knows Claire is in danger and she is being watched. Also, her and Vladimir's profile pics are new.
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