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[yanka]

[firefox]

Atm: we know Jeanie is a reconditioned avatar, which if I were to go out on a limb, means she does have a bit of personality? As supposed to being a dull program. Okay so far that checks out with SP.

EDIT: "I feel dizzy... woozy... drowsy" – this is Durga not Jeanie, as she wakes up on Jerseys 'computer'. YANKA BEAT ME TO IT

Jeanie's last words were decontami-oww, as she tries to get rid of Durga, but gets 'stung' back. Durga uses this word, as a metaphor for deletion-

Jersey: You're a navy sentinel aren't you?
Durga: No. There were two of them trying to get past your security-bot though.
Jersey: Jeezus, what did you do to them?
Durga: Just a little sting. More like a pinch. They barely felt it.

"why would Jeanie 'sting'?" well she wouldn't, but it's what Durga interprets an attack as.

The rest of it all tho, really checks out. Maybe to convenient, but usually were you go wrong is trying to find the really hard solution to the puzzle that isn't there, when the answer was obviously staring you in the face, but for me:

Yanka's spec is more possible than Jan being SP. (although, just to throw another spanner in the works, SP looks alien full stop. She had to learn English from us, then learn how to make her own words etc… she is maturing, or was (still is?) at an infant/young girl stage) which doesn't explain for Jan, who is a 'tough-babe' teen, or Jeanie, who is a reconditioned avatar.

SP could just be copying attributes from Jan and Dana, both who are avid escape artists in their own ways

*re-reading the SP and OP's transcripts for things we might have missed*

[Astald]

Here is a quote from one of the killer.jpg's that might help yanka's spec:

[Sirius]

I have somthing that might add to the idea that the Sleeping Princess is Jan.

Thinking of the sleeping princess as an AI, I remembered one of the earlier texts where the crewman said they could tell what an AI was best suited for based on their favourite game.

So, i turned to the Sleeping Princess' messages to see if i could find what it might be.

She mentioned on the first error message page that she likes games where there is a winner.

Then I remembered from the Halo books that the idea of the spartans wanting to win no matter the cost recurred throughout the books repeatedly.

OK, so its far from concrete proof, and you already have to agree that jan is a spartan or something similar, but it might be worth considering.

Also, the idea that she started off as a person in cryogenic sleep rather than an AI originally might explain why she had to learn to speak (in this case, rather than learning English but learning how to speak whilst inside a computer, or something along those lines)

If nothing else though, perhaps a good question for the sleeping princess is whats her favourite game?

[Flashbolt7]

This is just a thought but maybe SP was an AI with a failsafe (similar to the AI in "First Strike." Some tried to activate this failsafe (have her delete herself) and she resisted but a lot of her memory was destroyed..

[Flashbolt7]

Or....remember in Halo when Cptn Keyes told Cortona to sort herself for a hard transfer. She did so on a memory crystal.

No even today computer chips have a decent amount of SiO2 (silicon dioxide) better known as glass.

Notice the subtle Glass Coffin hint

Add this stuff to the fact that When Cortona was inserted into the Halo facility she was very disoriented and overwhelmed. And keep in mind that she was the most advanced AI ever made by ONI, Imagine what it would be like for an "inferior" model to experience something like that.

So all of this together leads me to what I think is a pretty logical solution. The princess was an AI that was stored on a memory crystal (that may or may not have been damaged) and when she got inserted into a network she was overwhelmed and is taking time to get her bearings

[Astald]

Overwhelmed by technology that is about 5 centuries old? I am thinking there wasn't enough memory for their memories. As in the space would be too small for them to function normally. Could be why they feel trapped. And even Durga noticed she was on something smaller when she found herself on Jersey's computer.

[Zenneth]

erm....

[Avery1415]

I'll be honest, I came kind of late to this party and have been playing catchup over the past week. So, NSTIW going through the what we know files and I came upon this from the MAYDAY text:

[Sirius]

Well i think all the mayday text is from Melissa but im not 100% positive, since i wasnt there quite at the beginning either.

As for how would Melissa/flea communicate with SP if she was a real person: well, for the theory of Jan=SP to work, SP would have to be Jan's mind transferred/uploaded onto computer. This was something done in the halo universe, it was a process that killed the original person, and created a smart AI. For this theory to work, id speculate that Jan was on the same ship as Melissa, in cryo, and the ship crashed, and she was killed, so some automated process or Melissa herself copied Jan's mind into the ships computer.

Your right though about the personalities not matching up though. However, the jan from wav files wasnt quite cold and hard like MC either, and she was still a teenage girl.

The personality is the most puzzling thing about SP really. I mean, itd be equally odd if she were a ships AI or something like that and sounded like a teenager.. not quite something youd expect the military to want.

[jellyfish_green]

It's an intriguing spec - personalities and memories can be uploaded to make an AI in the Haloverse, so Melissa may be based on a real person, as has been stated before. And our teenage Janissary does have some parallels with teenage Princess.

So Jan could have had herself uploaded, to become the SP AI.
OR (more speculatively, as this implies an actual Cryopod somewhere in our time) Jan was Spartan-cyborg and had Durga installed in her data socket, like John-117 and Cortana, which will only be proven if we get a storyline where these two meet.

The present situation could be, then, that Durga/Melissa/Operator is STILL installed in Jan/SP's data socket, and is actually supressing Jan/Princess from having control of her own body and cyborg functions while she does her dirty work with them. And thinks Jan/Princess is adequately sealed inside her own brain with limited function.

(Somehow the cryopod needs the ILB server, or all memory functions have been transferred to it. Hmm. spec powers getting weaker. Operator has definitely extended herself to the hard drive, and again to the server/network interface (tall tower). But did she start in the Cryopod, or only on Dana's computer? Dana, seen any Cryopods lately?)

[cidkill99]

I think we're leading up to the transfer of Jannisary to an AI state with the Wavs we've been getting. From what I heard last night, kumal is finally going to be tied into the Jan storyline, in the form of a shooting near his house. It also appears that JamesJames gets killed by a cop on a routine stop, and Janissary is held at the scene and being asked to "make a statement" when she thinks it would be wierd to do so, almost like the whole incident was engineered to bring her in. So........

[Spec] JamesJames is a Special Special forces operative assigned to the development of superior humans, specifically in the interest of creating humans that are suitable for transfer to a Smart AI. He spends a lot of time with his students, and trains them in all manner of espionage, systems, and keeps them physically trained as well. He kidnaps Jan and brings her to Earth, in order to prevent her from being transferred to AI and therefore killed. He obviously cares for the girl, and they are clearly on the run from something. She is re-captured and eventually transferred to the AI. Perhaps a memory crystal copy is made so in case she fails the ship she is in charge of won't flounder.

Then "Catasrophic Event" and all that entails occurs, and she is shot back through time. She gets fragmented and damaged, but the memory crystal is ok, and the data is released as an automatic backup measure. Not having all the ship experience that Mellissa does, SP has to get her "Net legs" through us communicating with her. Mellissa is controlled by flea at this point, and either is being commanded to catch the princess and put her back in the crystal as a prison, or wants to do it anyway as a saftey measure, not knowing she herself has been compromised.

Of course, this thoery doesn't take durga into account at all. I think its more likely that Durga is the Operator, and SP is Jannisary, stored on a Crystal (effectively in stasis, bypassing the AI lifespan problem) as a backup AI in case Mellissa expires or breaks.

so...what about that?

[TridenT]

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