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johnny5
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[META][SPEC] Halo2 Game characters I think all of these audio files may be setting up playable game characters for the Halo2 Live online game.
Think about it.
Jan --> Action/Warrior Front line force
Kamahl --> medic?
Jersey --> Hacking recon
Just a thought.
EDIT - Moved this thread/topic to the "General/Updates" forum from the "Puzzle" forum, as its spec and meta and not related to a puzzle - SG
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:33 pm
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I don't think it'll be that overt.
No, its more likely that some character the MC is with for about 2 minutes is voiced by the same person. The ILB folks'll know its Jersey, right, but nobody else will.
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:55 pm
ajenteks
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It's campy enough that it just might work!
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:00 pm
gheritt
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I will be shocked if any of the ILB characters are in Halo 2.
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:05 pm
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gheritt wrote:
I will be shocked if any of the ILB characters are in Halo 2.
Me too. My earlier post was based on "if there was a character in Halo 2" sorta thing.
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:13 pm
Anton P. Nym
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I would be absolutely flabergasted to see any of the ILB characters in any version of Halo 2. With the exception of Jan, none of them would control at all like a SPARTAN... and even Jan couldn't wear Mjolnir armour without injuring herself. (She may have the speed and reflexes, but she certainly doesn't have the training.)
C'mon, how fun would it be to play as a geeky computer nerd who needs an instruction manual to survive a date?
Also, the story developing is very different than the one being told around the Master Chief; much smaller in scale, much tighter in focus on day-to-day events. The two styles don't mesh too well, especially in a game environment. You can choose a character-heavy narrative with lots of exposition in a film-noirish game, but not too well in a first-person shooter.
The most I would expect to see would be an easter egg in the game making reference to ILB events. (A discreet poster advertising Aiden's services maybe? Or a wanted poster with Jersey Morelli's name and face on it?)
-- Steve's been wrong before, but it's best to keep expectations on this kind of stuff low anyway. Saves on disappointment later, and makes what actually happens a pleasant surprise.
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:43 pm
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it'll be kind of like "enter the matrix", there were references to the game in reloaded and revolutions, but if you didn't play the game, you didn't miss anything, but those who did play it got the situations fleshed out a little more
i agree with scumbug, one of the characters will briefly appear in a cutscene... non-beekeepers will just accept the 'new' character, but we'll all yell "holy crap! it's XXXX!" when they appear
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:52 pm
PhatRick
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It is an interesting idea but I dont see it working. Sorry man
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:50 am
Shyndy
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no janisary wont control like master chief and no she doesnt have the armor. However, i could be wrong but i think i remember reading that in this game there would only be one playable master chief even thought there are four playable slots in the campaign. Would it not work better to have an enhanced but armorless spartan III (like janissary, not necessarily her) fill the other playable slots rather than some weak, really super weak marines? It would still surprise me, and it would be hard to make the game work well, as was seen with brute force(although it had multiple problems) but, without having the mutliple mastercheifs as in the original Halo, the game would be a downer for those not playing as MC. They might balance out janisary not having armor by her being able to do some things MC cant, like hang from ceilings and run faster. Just speculation though.
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:48 am
johnny5
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The new character will be called JaniSamus J'Aran
Having never played Halo, I see everyone's points. I was thinkning along the lines of Battlefield, where not everyone online can play the gun toting point man.
These audios must be from cut scenes or FMV of some sort, though.
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:40 am
sherpa
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johnny_Nitro wrote:
These audios must be from cut scenes or FMV of some sort, though.
Must? Why can't they be recorded especially for this game?
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:01 am
johnny5
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sherpa wrote:
johnny_Nitro wrote:
These audios must be from cut scenes or FMV of some sort, though.
Must? Why can't they be recorded especially for this game?
I don't know, is that precedented?
Maybe must is too strong a word. How about:
I [spec] that these audios are from cut scenes or FMV of some sort.
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:00 am
sherpa
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johnny_Nitro wrote:
Maybe must is too strong a word. How about:
I [spec] that these audios are from cut scenes or FMV of some sort.
I just realised this is a bit OT, though if people are speculating that the FMV - etc - is from Halo 2 it isn't. I'm just asking for justification, not a re-word of the original spec! Too many people around here just throw out all kinds of rubbish and never back it up. What makes you think it's cut-scenes? (There's no proof yet, so gut feeling is OK, I expect ) This has been discussed before , btw, so maybe we should take it elsewhere, unless specifically commenting on the Halo 2 aspect (e.g. "these dudes in a bubble were playing Halo2 and one of them said something about durga" ).
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:21 am
devolver
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sherpa wrote:
johnny_Nitro wrote:
Maybe must is too strong a word. How about:
I [spec] that these audios are from cut scenes or FMV of some sort.
I just realised this is a bit OT, though if people are speculating that the FMV - etc - is from Halo 2 it isn't. I'm just asking for justification, not a re-word of the original spec! Too many people around here just throw out all kinds of rubbish and never back it up. What makes you think it's cut-scenes?
Plus, not to continue too much OT, but with all the known plot threads that are likely in the Halo 2 storyline--what the covenant crystal does, what Dr. Halsey is up to, how Master Chief saves the earth, etc--I'll be slightly annoyed if I have to stop killing covenant to listen to the "adventures" of a nervous CP hacker and a pony-tailed smuggler ...
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:32 am
Shyndy
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im not sure why you need justification for speculation? isnt the point of speculation to throw all kinds of crazy ideas out there? Anyway, i feel that these files are halo 2, and its mostly from little things. The setting does feel like halo only more civilian in setting than what weve seen so far. also the mention of a razorback which i believe is the name of the atv that will be in halo 2. Mostly though, i just dont see bungie trying to push another game they may be working on that is also a futuristic game including some sort of cyborg (janissary). i was only speculating that janissary could be used in game as a playable character, but it may very well be that this story serves another purpose but i think it would be harder to justify that this isnt directly related to halo than an idiot like me trying to explain logically why i think this is halo.
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:09 pm
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