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chaos
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morscata12 wrote:
I'll go out on a limb and say that the voices heard in "the basement" were missing audio from various entries:
1) Each voice seems disjointed (starting and stopping instantly, and not relating to each other), as though clips were playing rather than full dialog.
2) TTA (aka Masky) claims he has access to missing audio, yet is not the one removing it. If the basement contains echoes of Alex's past encounters with Slenderman, TTA would just need to record those echoes and replay them over his video responses.
3) We know TTA is capable of going to the basement, regardless of how you interpret Entry 23: TTA is living in the house that teleported J to the basement. Or, TTA took J to the basement. Or, SM took J to the basement and TTA is in contact with SM.

Seth's camera didn't pick up any voices in Entry 22, which may indicate something changed the nature of that place between his visit and J's visit.

when you say TTA there...
do you mean masky[who has not been proven to be TTA]
because otherwise
i've seen not a single reference to TTA in the whole video...]
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I have a feeling that we're supposed to connect the two, though we never see Masky with a camera, or Masky in one of TTA's videos... Jay connects the two in one bit of Episode. Still, we can't quite rule it out that they're NOT the same person!

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When Jay was running around the house, trying to figure out why he keeps warping to the same room, he eventually goes into the bathroom, and suddenly winds up in Masky's room. You can tell he's confused, as he's looking at his feet like he didn't know what he was standing on. He opens the door, and sees Masky's mask hanging on the door, also just in time to see Masky close the door. Jay then goes in the door, and finds himself in the basement place. This door is the same door that opens and closes itself in Admission.

EDIT: I still say that "basement" is Slender Man's universe. I remember from JAF (I know the two aren't related, it's just where I got the idea) there was the thing in the book that says something about Slender Man treading in our world. I dunno what happened to cause Slender Man's existence, but I'm thinking his basement place is like his point of origin or something.

I've heard theories that Slendy is the ghost of a burn victim or something. I don't like those theories, but if they were true, then the place Alex, Seth, and Jay were taken to is probably like the memory of the place he died. This could also tie in to why people black out all the time when Slender Man is near. It could be a defense mechanism, or it could be that he feeds on memories or something. It's part of the "field" he lets off, which ruins camera footage, and if he's angry enough, destroys the camera completely.

Just theories. I don't know if I'm truly loyal to any of them, but they're just ideas that I think could be possible. Maybe Slender Man lives in the dream world, and that's how he gets to you, like Freddy Krueger or whatever. Maybe he stole Jay's soul when he was down there. Maybe that's what Alex meant by "gone". Maybe he already had Jay's soul, so he just returned him to his house. Who knows?

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uhg... and when slenderman does that freaky head tilt at the end of 23, it totally reminds me of Admission too.

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This may answer the question of how Alex first encountered SM, to be honest. Maybe that house is a gateway to SM-land, and they stumbled across it, and somehow let SM out (admission shows him walking out of slendyland). Alex and Seth's journey in that other entry was like an expedition.

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so did a screen print... Masky?!?! LOL LOL its in the tunnel thing people think Slendy is sleeping in (dont remember who said that)
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ManateeLuvrWB wrote:
so did a screen print... Masky?!?! LOL LOL its in the tunnel thing people think Slendy is sleeping in (dont remember who said that)


No matter how many times people tell me that Slendy is in there, I assure you, he's not. All you can see is a small white thing on the bottom, and something white near the back. If anything's in there, it's Masky's mask, lying on the bottom. I don't think both Seth and Jay would look in, go "oh, Slender Man's sleepin' in there, humdy dum..." and walk away.

The Last Gent wrote:
This may answer the question of how Alex first encountered SM, to be honest. Maybe that house is a gateway to SM-land, and they stumbled across it, and somehow let SM out (admission shows him walking out of slendyland). Alex and Seth's journey in that other entry was like an expedition.


I thought this too! Maybe they appeased him or something by giving him Seth (probably not on purpose), thus locking him away. Jay (or more likely, Masky) reopened it somehow and freed him in Return. This could put Alex in a position to possibly be totheark again, if he feels guilt for what happened to Seth (although I still think it's somehow Seth). But there's still the question: How the fuck did Tim get involved in this?

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I honestly think Tim was the one to bring Slender Man around the first time.

Based on Baron's theory above, here's how I think it goes.

Slenderman is stalking Tim, who sacrifices Sarah to Slender to save himself. (Alex was normal when Tim was having his coughing issue.) With slendy appeased, Tim begins to get better and goes back to normal. Alex then stumbles across slenderman, and Alex's tapes begin.

Alex then perhaps unwittingly gives Seth to Slenderman, and then runs for it. J then has the tapes.

That theory blows my belief of Seth being TTA out of the water, though... Sad

Maybe Brian is TTA. He's the only one that J actively went looking for other than Alex and Tim, and it led him to the house, where a lot of this seems to be stemming from. It would also sort of explain how TTA had the footage of J in the house- maybe the house is actually Brian's house! Not Alex's as we thought.

/twocents

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The Last Gent wrote:
This may answer the question of how Alex first encountered SM, to be honest. Maybe that house is a gateway to SM-land, and they stumbled across it, and somehow let SM out (admission shows him walking out of slendyland). Alex and Seth's journey in that other entry was like an expedition.


I sort of thought that too, i started referring as the other building as "The Slender Lair" to my friends. It gives this almost a ritualistic element, that slendy was accidentally let out from where he had been sealed?

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That place still seems to me like "hellish" version of the house, representing Slendermans ideal environment.

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Maybe being Masky is a sort of virus. Tim could have been the first to be Masky, then Alex, and I guess J is next.

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Erebus wrote:
Maybe being Masky is a sort of virus. Tim could have been the first to be Masky, then Alex, and I guess J is next.


Yes, I had thought this too, what makes me wonder is what happens to them once they pass it on to someone els?

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copperclock wrote:
I honestly think Tim was the one to bring Slender Man around the first time.

Based on Baron's theory above, here's how I think it goes.

Slenderman is stalking Tim, who sacrifices Sarah to Slender to save himself. (Alex was normal when Tim was having his coughing issue.) With slendy appeased, Tim begins to get better and goes back to normal. Alex then stumbles across slenderman, and Alex's tapes begin.

Alex then perhaps unwittingly gives Seth to Slenderman, and then runs for it. J then has the tapes.

That theory blows my belief of Seth being TTA out of the water, though... Sad

Maybe Brian is TTA. He's the only one that J actively went looking for other than Alex and Tim, and it led him to the house, where a lot of this seems to be stemming from. It would also sort of explain how TTA had the footage of J in the house- maybe the house is actually Brian's house! Not Alex's as we thought.

/twocents


I apologize in advance for this over sized post.

Only problem with that, is Sarah is around when Slender Man is in Alex's tapes. Also, they confirmed it was Brian's house in Entry #20. =/

I don't recall Alex ever having the coughing problems Jay and Tim have/had, so another theory arises: maybe totheark causes the respiratory problems, whilst Slendy causes the mind problems. If this were the case, it would make totheark a bad guy, and I don't like that. It would also mean that totheark is somewhat supernatural, which I double don't like.

This would mean that totheark has been a problem since the beginning. Maybe he's the one who set Slendy free the first time, and Alex was the unlucky one who he latched onto. In this case, totheark could be Sarah, Brian, or even Seth.

Okay, I just got an idea; stay with me here.

Seth is totheark. He unleashes Slender Man for whatever reason (megalomaniacal, obsessed with Slender Man myth, take your pick) . During location scouting, Alex somehow disturbs Slender Man, and he starts following him. Seth approaches him, asking to be a camera man. He eventually gets Alex to trust him with the whole being stalked thing, so he uses Alex to get to Slender Man's House. Seth intends to give Alex to Slendy, but Slendy instead takes the camera man: Seth. This locks Slender Man away, Alex gives the tapes to Jay, and leaves.

As for Tim. The camera man plan may have been his backup plan, which was underway during his plan for Tim. His first (failed) plan would have been to contact Tim, anonymously, as totheark. He uses Tim to investigate Slender Man. Tim becomes agitated and aggressive from having to deal with the memory loss (as he probably didn't have a camera to remind him), while totheark (Seth) pushes him to dig deeper. Eventually, Tim gives up, and stops looking. Seth stops using him, and decides to go after Alex. As a result, Tim returns to normal.

Seth somehow escapes Slender Man (supernatural powers? =/), but is unable to leave the house for whatever reason (Slendy's keeping him there, he's a zombiegoast now, whatever you like). He finds Jay's entries, and watches his progress. Once he appears on camera (Entry #9), he's surprised. He decides to contact Jay as totheark. Dropping clues about his identity and his involvement in this here and there, Jay is oblivious. He eventually decides to try to guide Jay into releasing Slender Man again.

Once he sees Tim in Entry #15, Seth/totheark decides he could use a pawn. He lures Tim to Brian's house (probably by posing as Brian) and turns him into Masky (mind control, making him sick and denying him the medicine, whatever you like). Before that however, Tim tells Jay about Brian's house, and Jay arrives first. Surprised that someone is there unexpectedly, totheark hides and films Jay, who is also getting sick because of totheark's "powers".

After taking Tim's medicine, Seth turns Tim against him. totheark lures Jay back to the house for Entry #18, but it's an ambush, and Tim attacks. Due to either Seth's presence, the lack of meds, or Tim faking because he didn't want to hurt Jay, or a combination, Tim seizes, and passes out. Once he realizes Jay is gonna remove the mask, Tim doesn't let him, and Jay escapes.

Jay starts recording himself, and Tim goes to recover his meds (and the bullet casing for some reason). Due to totheark "infecting" him, or maybe tampering with the camera, he causes distortion in Entry #19. At first he simply observes Jay, but then, totheark (through Tim) puts Jay in a trance, and brings him back to the house. Seth somehow uses the both of them to summon and release Slender Man again, and Return is filmed by totheark.

Jay goes home, and eventually makes Entry #19.5, and discovers that there was something significant about the Tower from Entry #5. Tim is instructed to leave the tape Seth had for Jay to find, and totheark makes the response Version. Jay goes to the tower, finds the tape, and uploads it as Entry #22.

Jay is disturbed by the tape, and puts off doing anything as long as possible. Seth wants to give Jay to Slender Man, so he can be released. He responds with Attention. Jay doesn't move, so he responds again with Admission, hinting at secrets behind doors.

Jay finally gets up the nerve to go to the house. Either totheark or Tim sets up the Slender Doll to lure Jay into the bathroom. Jay does so, and catches Tim watching him curiously. He runs into the first room, and then leaves, probably to run downstairs. When Jay attempts to follow, however, he is warped into the second room. Desperately trying to find out what's going on, he begins going through each door until he is eventually warped directly behind himself, and night has fallen. He finally decides to listen to the Slender Doll, and enters the bathroom. Jay is warped to Masky's room, and upon leaving, sees Tim entering the small door; his mask hanging on the edge of it. Hoping to finally catch Masky, Jay enters the small room, sending him to Slender Man's house.

After poking around a bit, Jay says "Hello?" to which he is greeted with what sounds like his voice being played unnaturally lower, probably slowed down and possibly reversed. I believe this is how Slender Man communicates, kind of like a parrot. (This, in my mind, makes him ten fucking times creepier.) That would mean in Deluge, that WAS Slender Man's voice saying "Alex" over and over again; he was repeating what he heard when Sarah said "Alex" at some point, in his Slender Speak.

Jay follows Alex's footsteps, and hears his "ghost" or memory say "Seth?" a couple times. Eventually, Slender Man finds Jay, greets him with his creepy "Hello", and then cranks up his camera distorter field. Jay is stunned, with his light fixed on Slender Man. Slendy probably warns Jay not to come back. Jay awakens in his house (yesterday at the time of writing this), with his camera destroyed, and Tweets "How did I get here".

We shall see from there, if this theory pans out.

A couple of things to support this theory:

Tim is often missing, or late, like in Entry #7, #12, and #20. These are also when Alex is acting normal. These Entries would take place while Tim is under totheark's control, and he is out investigating Slender Man.

There is STILL one room that Jay has not been inside in the house. This is the room closest to the bathroom on the 2nd floor. Regardless of whether this theory is true or not, I believe this to be totheark's room. It was locked, and he never bothered trying it again after the first room was unlocked. The second door in the second room was also never opened, but I believe it to be a closet or something, as there probably wouldn't be a bedroom connected to another bedroom.

I haven't figured out how Brian or Sarah play a part in this yet. Maybe Brian simply moved away, and totheark, like Alex 3 years ago, used his house for a base of operations. Maybe Brian found out about Seth's plans and Seth had him "done away with" before he could warn Alex. Maybe that's where Brian was when he was never around: investigating Seth. For now, under this theory at least, I'll assume Brian and Sarah were extras who weren't involved with Slender Man or totheark, and they're probably alive somewhere.

Also, to be clear, in this theory: Seth = totheark, Tim = Masky. Tim doesn't know that Seth and totheark are the same until after he is under Seth's control, if at all. In fact, thus far, nobody does. Also, I'm assuming that you can only get sent to Slender Man's house if you really want to. Jay really wanted some answers, and unwittingly got himself sent there.

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Hi BaronvonCakeman, and thanks for replying.
I had seen "Thermal Boners" before and decided not to include it in my list. Anu Garg's page
http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=marble+hornets&t=1000&a=n
provided more inspiration for my list than actual entries; I had to tweak and readjust his listings to get mine--kind of how you can scramble the letters in your Scrabble hand to find a workable word.

I was interested in this comment of yours, Baron. . .
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I was thinking about the whole "Return to us" statement, and I started to think that maybe, totheark (Alex, Brian, Seth, or (ugh) Sarah) is telling Jay to return to the "group" which contains Masky (Tim), and possibly any number of the others involved with Marble Hornets.


Before, when asked whether he was the one fiddling with the sound in Alex's tapes, totheark indicated that the notion was "halfright". If the "us" here is two people, and totheark is really a collaborative channel, then the 'halfright' indicates that one of them did the sound track alterations. . .half of the team.
Or. . .the age of totheark is listed as 79, perhaps that number is their COMBINED ages. Four youngsters around 18-20 years old would add up to about that, for example. . .
Thanks again and I will now close this, my 2nd post.
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Hi Copperclock.

You said:
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It would also sort of explain how TTA had the footage of J in the house- maybe the house is actually Brian's house! Not Alex's as we thought.


I think it IS Brian's house. You can see just from the images of the MarbleHornets channel two images of the same sofa cushions--Entry # 20 and #18. Here is a picture of that: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/s7Z15876uGCOHeCLtv9T0A?feat=directlink

We know, I think, that 18 is in Brian's house. Well, these are the same cushions; ergo, the same house, I think [and yes, I know, it's possible for two people to buy the same sofa, etc.. . . . yellow jacket. . . etc. but sheesh!]
What do you think, everyone?
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