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lapierre520
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That's dumb.

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Dray
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You're dumb. Razz

It is a potential loop hole (hurr hurr hurr) out of making more entries.

I hope that it's wrong, though... I've thought about an end like that, and while it could be possible, it's just not as satisfying a story!

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Watson wrote:
I wanted to add something to this. I'm beginning to think that this could also be Slendy's motivation for what he does; since Masky is much more like Slender-Man than he is a normal human being, perhaps Slendy is angry. It's been stated in some of the mythos that Slendy's face appears like he is 'trying to be human but can't quite get it right.' Maybe the fact that he can't get it right upsets him, and so as vengeance he sets about turning humans into Slendy 'rip-offs.'
Watson wrote:
I have a bit of an odd theory. Here goes nothing to try and describe it:

-We believe that Jay might be time travelling due to the fac tthat he ended up going in daylight, and then having darkness somehow fall between the cut.

-People are claiming that they hear Alex call for 'Seeeth?' when Jay is in the basement thing.

-Masky left his mask hanging from the doorframe in plain sight for Jay to find, and was then not seen again in the entire video.

-Jay somehow ended up back at his house, terrified and confused.

I believe that Masky's mask is going to end up in Jay's home before long. I believe that Masky IS in fact Jay himself.

This is because I think Masky is the future Jay, being manipulated by Slender-Man into manipulating himself into becoming Masky.

It's an enormous paradox, but one which would not be unlikely within the MH and Slender-Man universes, IMO.

Masky is Slender-Man's helper, who goes about 'collecting' a victim for Slender-Man and then leading that person into discovering his(Slender-Man's) secrets.

Perhaps, then, each person who encounters Slender-Man has their own personal "Masky", who is themself manipulated by Slender-Man into being his servant. Perhaps this is where all his victims go to. They become a 'Masky' and then when they have finished turning themselves into that, Slender-Man disposes of them. Which is when the bodies turn up. Very Happy

That's kinda what I said, except with Masky being the good guy instead of the bad guy.

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chaos
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Watson wrote:
Watson wrote:
I wanted to add something to this. I'm beginning to think that this could also be Slendy's motivation for what he does; since Masky is much more like Slender-Man than he is a normal human being, perhaps Slendy is angry. It's been stated in some of the mythos that Slendy's face appears like he is 'trying to be human but can't quite get it right.' Maybe the fact that he can't get it right upsets him, and so as vengeance he sets about turning humans into Slendy 'rip-offs.'
Watson wrote:
I have a bit of an odd theory. Here goes nothing to try and describe it:

-We believe that Jay might be time travelling due to the fac tthat he ended up going in daylight, and then having darkness somehow fall between the cut.

-People are claiming that they hear Alex call for 'Seeeth?' when Jay is in the basement thing.

-Masky left his mask hanging from the doorframe in plain sight for Jay to find, and was then not seen again in the entire video.

-Jay somehow ended up back at his house, terrified and confused.

I believe that Masky's mask is going to end up in Jay's home before long. I believe that Masky IS in fact Jay himself.

This is because I think Masky is the future Jay, being manipulated by Slender-Man into manipulating himself into becoming Masky.

It's an enormous paradox, but one which would not be unlikely within the MH and Slender-Man universes, IMO.

Masky is Slender-Man's helper, who goes about 'collecting' a victim for Slender-Man and then leading that person into discovering his(Slender-Man's) secrets.

Perhaps, then, each person who encounters Slender-Man has their own personal "Masky", who is themself manipulated by Slender-Man into being his servant. Perhaps this is where all his victims go to. They become a 'Masky' and then when they have finished turning themselves into that, Slender-Man disposes of them. Which is when the bodies turn up. Very Happy

That's kinda what I said, except with Masky being the good guy instead of the bad guy.

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Watson
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Should've made it more clear, I was referring to Nautical's theory on the previous page, and reposting my own theory for the sake of showing what it was to begin with. xP Mybad.

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The Rogue Wolf
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Hello, all. Long-time listener, first-time caller. I've been following the Marble Hornets saga for a little while now and I have to say, I'm engrossed. Kudos to those involved.

I've got a theory about our dear Slender Man that I haven't seen espoused yet. Of course, I haven't been able to ford my way through all 300+ pages of the Trailhead thread, so if this has been brought up and/or shot down, please forgive. Smile

It appears to me that Slender Man can destroy, or even consume, memories. What's more, he can seemingly do this with both people and electronic recording devices (such as video cameras). There's more than a few times J has told us that he can't remember anything aside from what was captured on video- I find it likely that Slender Man is simply wiping away the stored memories from both. What's strange is that he can apparently do this selectively- note that with Entry 17, while the recording is only partially wiped, J has absolutely no recollection of the entire rehearsal. This would explain J's seeming "warping" through the house, instead being him simply not "recording" memories of walking back and forth through different rooms, and losing time as he did. What's interesting is that he can still function somewhat normally during these "forgetful" periods- he can walk, open doors, etc.- but holds no recollection of doing so after. It might even be possible that someone is leading him around without his conscious knowledge during these times.

I also wonder if Slender Man can somehow "broadcast" those memories he's taken. The bizarre frame of someone holding a hand up to the camera caught in Entry 23 looks utterly out-of-place, not something that could have been captured during J's trip through the basement- so either it was transposed from an earlier, otherwise-missing segment of J's journey through the house, or it was simply "projected" into the camera itself. As J's camera is fully digital and records to an internal hard drive instead of magnetic tape, I don't think it likely to be a simple afterimage magnetically transposed. This could also explain the "echoes" that we hear during the basement section- this could be Slender Man attempting to communicate, by replaying earlier recordings. Of course, since we have no way of knowing whether J actually heard the voices or if they were only caught by the camera, there's no way to know for sure.

Also worthy of note: This is the first time that J himself has seen Slender Man. Every other time we've seen him has been on Alex's recordings or totheark's posted videos.

I think it's too late for you to turn back now, J. You've seen Slender Man, and he knows it.

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Kitsuhime
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Rogue Wolf, I like this theory. I did think teleportation and time travel was too absurd an element to be introduced this fatr into the story. Yours is a much more solid theory, and it seems like J has been leading us to think of this along the way- the missing audio present in the totheark tapes, the freak out on camera in entry 23. Wopld this make totheark Slenderman's disciple or videographer, who posts these superimposed memories, then?

Please post if you have any more thoughts, I would like to read them.

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chaos
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The Rogue Wolf wrote:

Also worthy of note: This is the first time that J himself has seen Slender Man. Every other time we've seen him has been on Alex's recordings or totheark's posted videos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUI-3lU6bek&feature=response_watch
EDIT: granted, it's TTA, but J's present...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:53 pm
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Dray wrote:
How do you mean, Spy?


Well, there's Jay's tweet:

MarbleHornets wrote:
Trying to get the footage off the camera. Entry #23 later tonight I hope. Head feels liquefied.


Along with the others mentioning "problems". And in the video he said the camera was completely ruined. Plus he pointed right at Slenderman's head. I'd imagine that any video stored on there would be extremely distorted, resulting in the cut-outs that people are calling "teleportation", and the breaks between day and night, which I believe were put in there to show that the clips took place with large gaps of time in between them.

Also, as an aside, the weird audio containing what people are saying has voices in it, might be the other videos that were still saved onto the camera getting their audio scambled up with this one.

Again, just my $0.02.
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chaos wrote:
The Rogue Wolf wrote:

Also worthy of note: This is the first time that J himself has seen Slender Man. Every other time we've seen him has been on Alex's recordings or totheark's posted videos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUI-3lU6bek&feature=response_watch
EDIT: granted, it's TTA, but J's present...

He was there, yes, but mentally "present"? That's hard to say. And there's no way to know if he actually saw Slender Man during that time. As he admits, he has absolutely no memory of that missing time, and it's entirely possible that all he would've seen was an empty hallway, and totheark filming him. Still, I can't say I'm right with 100% sureity... but who can? Wink

Kitsuhime wrote:
Rogue Wolf, I like this theory. I did think teleportation and time travel was too absurd an element to be introduced this fatr into the story. Yours is a much more solid theory, and it seems like J has been leading us to think of this along the way- the missing audio present in the totheark tapes, the freak out on camera in entry 23. Wopld this make totheark Slenderman's disciple or videographer, who posts these superimposed memories, then?

Please post if you have any more thoughts, I would like to read them.

Thanks! I do have a few theories of just what Slender Man does, how it affects those who have pursued him, and what might be going on now, but it'll take me a bit of time to read through what else has been posted and compare notes. Still, I'll be around from time to time to contribute and bandy about ideas.

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xtowelyx
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One thing I've been thinking is that Jay and SM might have some kind of "deeper connection" with each other. Granted, we've never seen SM attacking anyone in MH, the fact that Jay was VERY close to SM in both Return and 23 suggests that perhaps either A) SM isn't harmful in a physical sense (possibly mentally) or B) SM isn't looking to harm Jay at all.

Don't know where Masky fits into this. Though, the fact that Jay wakes up at home without any injuries (that we know of) could have something to do with him.

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Has anybody figured if the 'basement' that features in Entry 22 and Entry 23 is the on that Alex is wandering around outside of in Entry 13 (the one where Jay goes to get something from the car) and Entry 10 (where Alex is being chased through the woods by Slendy at night)?

The building itself seems to be a workstation of some kind, like a water station. All of the pipes in the 'basement' suggest that it isn't a residential area. It could be an abandoned water station.

I just think that with totheark's references to water, and the distortion that we get around waterways is significant. If the building is a water station, and Slendy has been seen inside of it and around it, perhaps he is affecting the water supply or something.

(It also connotes some kind of significance to the bloody sink in Brian's house for me, but may be a coincidence.)

Also, could somebody point out any decisions on what they think the 'operator' symbol is, the x inside the o? I have been googling around but can't find any reference to it that seems at all reliable. I noticed that Alex, in Entry 10, flashes the camera past this symbol as if he is standing on it, but it doesn't seem to do him any good as Slenderman grows closer, and he continues to run.

The image is framed over the 'warp' room door in Brian's house as well.

At first I thought it might be some kind of symbol of protection, as with a dream catcher. I'm not so sure about that now. I just want to know what connection it has with everything else, if you guys don't mind me asking!

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Dray wrote:
water stuff


And if all of the filming locations are close by, the creek near the tower also is..obviously water Razz

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Dray wrote:
Also, could somebody point out any decisions on what they think the 'operator' symbol is, the x inside the o?

Personally I've always thought of the "Operator" symbol as a warning. Do not see Slender Man (represented by a featureless oval), do not record him, do not remember him or depict him. Maybe it's also meant as some sort of ward to keep Slender Man away, although really, it doesn't look like it works.

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That's exactly what I was thinking.

Also, go me, I found something! 8D I googled 'music symbol circle x notehead' and homed in on this. Find 'jump to coda'!

Quote:
jump to coda sign 'jump to coda' sign: a circle or oval with a cross inside it


Quote:
the 'jump to coda' sign directs the player to jump from that point to a section marked coda


The circle with an x through it is actually an OVAL with an x through it in Brian's house. I thought it was sloppy scrawling, but what if it is actually a 'jump to coda' sign? The fact that it's hanging right next to a 'warp' door in Entry 23 doesn't seem to be a coincidence.

What do you all think? Does that help with some of the theories of blacking out vs. space/time hopping, maybe?

What significance do you suppose it has in Entry 13 and 10, then?

Also, 'coda', from wikipedia:

Quote:
Coda (Italian for "tail", plural code) is a term used in music in a number of different senses, primarily to designate a passage which brings a piece (or one movement thereof) to a conclusion.


I wonder if this is pointing to 'the end', where Slenderman resides? Or perhaps the end of the series? XD What is this I don't even.

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