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[VIDEO] Entry #23
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The Rogue Wolf
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DLT wrote:
So, one thing has been playing on my mind after Entry #23, though it counts for others too... Slenderman has gotten to Alex before, and now he got Jay to a point where he couldn't escape either, he had them... why did he leave them alive? In fact, even unharmed, atleast physically? He could have killed them easily based on all we know of Slenderman.

I don't have any real theories, but its a question worth asking.

You're assuming that the death of his victims (at least the adult ones in the Marble Hornets saga) is Slender Man's ultimate goal.

It could simply be an unfortunate side-effect.

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Spritey
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DLT wrote:
So, one thing has been playing on my mind after Entry #23, though it counts for others too... Slenderman has gotten to Alex before, and now he got Jay to a point where he couldn't escape either, he had them... why did he leave them alive? In fact, even unharmed, atleast physically? He could have killed them easily based on all we know of Slenderman.

I don't have any real theories, but its a question worth asking.


He harmed Alex in Entry #14.

Slenderman usually just watches you curiously until you start to find out more about him. After that, shit gets real.

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How do we know that Slendy harmed Alex? For all we know, Alex slipped on a loose sheaf of paper, bonked his head on the corner of an end table, and then sat in front of the camera for a while thinking, "god, I'm an idiot."

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Dray wrote:
How do we know that Slendy harmed Alex? For all we know, Alex slipped on a loose sheaf of paper, bonked his head on the corner of an end table, and then sat in front of the camera for a while thinking, "god, I'm an idiot."


That's always a possibility, but I'm pretty sure the creators were trying to make it very clear that Slendy harmed Alex.

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There's also the shadow arm reaching for Alex at the end of 22... I can see your point with the implied violence. At the same time, I always doubted it though, like it was a red herring thrown in to make us more frightened of Slendy? :\ It still seems vague at this point.

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Dray
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Apologies for the double post.

In regards to 23, when we see Masky's mask hanging from the door opposite the closet, it seems like everyone is assuming that it was just recently put there.

What if Masky had hung up his mask, thinking that Jay was no longer around. (there's the suggestion that it was night at the last warp point, and perhaps morning from the light in the hall when Jay comes out of the closet.) It looks pretty clearly like it is Jay's opening of the closet door that bangs into the door across the hall (which was already partially open, with the mask hanging on it) that causes the mask to swing, not that someone was just in front of Jay.

If that's so, then it could be that Masky doesn't wear his mask around the house when nobody's there. Or maybe he left the mask on the handle whilst he went into the 'basement' space. Or even just suggesting that Masky was certain enough that Jay was no longer around that he could leave off his mask for a while...

What do you think?

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badluckshadow13
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I dunno, I was fairly certain it was Masky who took Jay to the closet after he fainted.

The closet is something I totally understand too by the way. As a child I terrified by the dark (or rather the things I was certain lived in the dark) at one point I think we'd just moved houses, as my bed was no longer against a wall, and I was horrified at the concept of laying without my back against the wall.
I took to pulling my blankets and pillows from the bed and curling up in the closet. I loved the security of four walls right there within reach. A quick touch was enough for confirmation, no more sleepless nights of guesss work, wondering what was just over the edge of my bed.

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Dray
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That does assume that Masky carried him to the closet and put him there, though. (Plausible, perhaps even likely!)

Whatever the case, since Masky seemed so concerned with keeping his identity a secret, hanging the mask on the door has some serious significance. Everyone is suggesting that it had been left as an offering or something. Maybe it was left hanging there because Masky assumed that Jay would be out for some time, or else didn't realize that Jay was going to pop up there. XD

Come to think of it, the latter does sound pretty foolish.

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badluckshadow13
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Well maybe he's realized that his earlier attempts to make Jay listen to him scared him a little too bad, maybe it's not so much a peace offering as a reassurance, it's like setting down your weapon to show you don't mean any harm.

Ob and about the closet sleeping arrangements, I meant I think Masky had been sleeping there as well.

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The Rogue Wolf
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I'm still not sold on the "teleportation" theory. I think Masky led J into that closet for some unknown reason while he was in a "forgetful" state, and then both he and the camera sort of "came to" inside. The mask was deliberately left hanging for him to find by Masky. Why? I don't know... maybe it was a message, saying "You're on your own from now on". Maybe it was Masky's way of passing on the torch, so to speak, believing that J would take his place.

There are a couple holes in my theory that support Dray's, though. The relative cleanliness of the house as opposed to J's first and second visit, and the fact that when J comes out of the closet (heh heh Wink ), there's daylight shining on the wall next to the doors where the mask is hanging. There's always the chance that he spent an entire day inside (or maybe elsewhere) and doesn't even realize it....

Also, if you listen closely, almost from the moment J enters the house, you can hear the telltale sound of Slender Man's presence. Even when he's causing no other interference, there's a soft, hollow rapping sound (like someone banging two hollow sticks together) that makes itself heard at random. At first I thought it might be a hanging lens cap or something banging against the camera... but then I looked at the part where J films himself in the bathroom mirror, and I saw that there wasn't one.

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xtowelyx
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Question: has anyone tried messaging Jay to see if he can tell us whether or not an entire day had gone past when he woke up at home? As in, he goes to the house on Wednesday and wakes up on Friday?

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In regards to coming to inside the closet, it seems very much like Jay turned the camera on as he was freaking out, wondering 'where am I?', then turned the flashlight on. Like maybe he turned the camera on, himself?

re: xtowelyx, I'd imagine that Jay IG is probably not wanting to talk about it at all, so it'll probably be a fruitless... but you could try!

And as for where Tim lives: "I live next to Brian" in the interview. D'oh, just need to watch everything again!

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The Rogue Wolf
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Dray wrote:
In regards to coming to inside the closet, it seems very much like Jay turned the camera on as he was freaking out, wondering 'where am I?', then turned the flashlight on. Like maybe he turned the camera on, himself?

It's a possibility. Or the camera was still rolling but the flashlight was off when J regained awareness.

Mmmm, yummy theorycrafting.

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xtowelyx
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Dray wrote:

re: xtowelyx, I'd imagine that Jay IG is probably not wanting to talk about it at all, so it'll probably be a fruitless... but you could try!


Good point. I have a feeling if/when TTA makes a reply, Jay may be willing to answer some questions.

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Greenansatsu
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xtowelyx comment gave me a thought, and I'm sure its been mentioned, but I'm beginning to really think that this video isn't from Wednesday, I think the whole thing was from the week before in the days that jay said he lost.

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Beginning to lose track of days now. Decided to return to the house Wednesday.


I think Jay might have gone back to that house multiple times and the final version we see is what Masky and/or slendy wanted us to see, in an attempt to destroy Jay's resolve.

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