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badluckshadow13
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The Rogue Wolf wrote:
blue5213 wrote:
Third encounter. Masky just sits and watches Jay, then TTA tapes Jay...I don't even know. Apparently SM rejects Jay in favor of peering into Masky's closet. There's something significant about that.

I agree. There's something about that closet that isn't sitting right with me. It certainly seemed to interest Slender Man, as near the end of Return it appears that SM walked right past J and ignored the camera recording him, turning left towards the spot where (if the blueprint that's been posted is to be believed) that closet is in the hallway. What is it about that closet?

In such a small space, someone would practically have to be touching you to stand in there with you.
I think maybe Slendy doesn't want to get quite so close.

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The Rogue Wolf
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Howdy Folks,
I've been lurking around for quite some time, haven't made a post regarding MH in a while.
But, feel free to shoot me down if this has been covered earlier; but what exactly (if any) is the significance of the operator symbol around 2:22 in the room with the mattress?

I'm not sure anyone's reached any sort of conclusion on the significance of that particular appearance yet. At least, not in anything I've read.

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tehremu
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 		I don't think the mask is necessarily unique. It could be that the mask that was hanging on the door wasn't Masky's mask, but another mask just like it. In that case, it would be more of an invitation to join than a passing of the torch or anything like that.

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Kitsuhime
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 		CrypticClockwork had an interesting point: 3. Masky is relevant only to Jay. Masky is not present in any of Alex's videos. Neither is he mentioned in the scribbles on the wall Alex wrote so wildly. If Masky is Tim as the coat and the physical evidence seems to support, why didn't he terrorize Alex? And if he did, why was proof of contact destroyed in Alex's case and allowed to stay in J's case?

Other than the obvious 'Alex is Masky' bit that's been beating the dead horse, there are significant differences between J and Alex's slender-syndromes. Alex experiences creepy free writing, moodiness, alienation from others and is actively stalked by Slenderman, even in public locations. Alternately, J seeks out others in his experiences (Tim, TTA, Brian [unsuccessfully]), does not appear to free write or learn unknowable information (Operator, Operator symbol) without guidance and has to be at a specific location (the house) in order to have contact with Slenderman (Masky breaks the rule, not sure of significance).

What do the differences mean? Any theories? We are missing something, here.

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ManateeLuvrWB
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 		it means he doesnt really want jay but hes now getting in the way.

so, jay is probably next. he shoulda quick a while back. lol

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The Rogue Wolf
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tehremu wrote:
I don't think the mask is necessarily unique. It could be that the mask that was hanging on the door wasn't Masky's mask, but another mask just like it. In that case, it would be more of an invitation to join than a passing of the torch or anything like that.

Not at all impossible, but we might never know for sure until (unless?) Masky makes another appearance.

Kitsuhime wrote:
Other than the obvious 'Alex is Masky' bit that's been beating the dead horse, there are significant differences between J and Alex's slender-syndromes. Alex experiences creepy free writing, moodiness, alienation from others and is actively stalked by Slenderman, even in public locations. Alternately, J seeks out others in his experiences (Tim, TTA, Brian [unsuccessfully]), does not appear to free write or learn unknowable information (Operator, Operator symbol) without guidance and has to be at a specific location (the house) in order to have contact with Slenderman (Masky breaks the rule, not sure of significance).

What do the differences mean? Any theories? We are missing something, here.

We're not sure of just what sort of symptoms J has been showing due to his increasing exposure to all of this, and J has shown a reluctance to be forthright with how he's being affected. While Slender Man had been visible to Alex for a seemingly extended length of time, J's first semi-obvious exposure to SM- aside from Entry 17, the date of which we can't confirm- was in October, when he first visited the house (as shown in Entry 16), and the first positive proof that J could see him came only in Entry 23. It could be only a matter of time until J is buying new notepads in bulk.

(A side note- as far as J not learning "unknowable information", the source of his "anonymous tip" as to where to find Alex's house is still very well up for discussion. Who knows where it'll go from there....)

As far as Masky not showing himself earlier... without knowing Masky's motivation, any conjecture on why he would appear to J and not to Alex is really just that, conjecture. (Not like we're letting that stop us, though! Very Happy )

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 		It's also possible that Masky will simply retrieve his mask. He left it in a pretty obvious spot, and Jay didn't take it, as far as we know.

Or maybe Masky will get a new mask? =O We should hold a mask design competition, and the winner will be Masky's new mask! =D

Also, once again, it IS Brian's house. They confirmed it in Entry #20. Maybe Jay should try to find Alex, instead of running around creepy sub-worlds with Sender Men chasing after him.

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morscata12
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Kitsuhime wrote:
CrypticClockwork had an interesting point: 3. Masky is relevant only to Jay. Masky is not present in any of Alex's videos. Neither is he mentioned in the scribbles on the wall Alex wrote so wildly. If Masky is Tim as the coat and the physical evidence seems to support, why didn't he terrorize Alex? And if he did, why was proof of contact destroyed in Alex's case and allowed to stay in J's case?

Other than the obvious 'Alex is Masky' bit that's been beating the dead horse, there are significant differences between J and Alex's slender-syndromes. Alex experiences creepy free writing, moodiness, alienation from others and is actively stalked by Slenderman, even in public locations. Alternately, J seeks out others in his experiences (Tim, TTA, Brian [unsuccessfully]), does not appear to free write or learn unknowable information (Operator, Operator symbol) without guidance and has to be at a specific location (the house) in order to have contact with Slenderman (Masky breaks the rule, not sure of significance).

What do the differences mean? Any theories? We are missing something, here.


J and Alex play very different roles in this story. J plays the role of the investigator, looking into the tragedies of the past (Alex's relationship with the Slenderman). These past tragedies bring about some protective warden (Masky). This warden wants to keep J from sticking his nose where it doesn't belong, but also hopes for some sort of closure. His reasons for stopping J vary between "protecting J from forces he doesn't understand" and "keeping the memories of the past sacred".

Those roles (tragedy, investigator, warden) are archetypes from basic ghost stories. It is extremely likely there is more going on than that, but I believe the basic character motivations follow suit.

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Those roles (tragedy, investigator, warden) are archetypes from basic ghost stories. It is extremely likely there is more going on than that, but I believe the basic character motivations follow suit.


I'd love to read up more about that. Where'd you find these archetypes? (Campbell... TVtropes? XD)

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Exrandu
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 		Ohai.

Was futzing around, I think this is a slightly different angle and/or different lighting on slendy's attack on J.



Futzing around with contrast. What is up with his hand? Is he sitting in a chair? ARE THESE THE TENTACLES? Is it just weird lighting?



Normally I contribute more to games I play in but there isn't much G to this ARG. Its more of an ARExperience. Awesome nonetheless!

Sorry they're so big. If someone lets me know how to edit them better I will. I'm not much of a graphics/website guy.

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morscata12
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Dray wrote:
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Those roles (tragedy, investigator, warden) are archetypes from basic ghost stories. It is extremely likely there is more going on than that, but I believe the basic character motivations follow suit.


I'd love to read up more about that. Where'd you find these archetypes? (Campbell... TVtropes? XD)


I sorta made them up Wink. Mentioning TVTropes ended up sending me down the rabbit hole that is their website.

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morscata12 wrote:
Dray wrote:
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Those roles (tragedy, investigator, warden) are archetypes from basic ghost stories. It is extremely likely there is more going on than that, but I believe the basic character motivations follow suit.


I'd love to read up more about that. Where'd you find these archetypes? (Campbell... TVtropes? XD)


I sorta made them up Wink. Mentioning TVTropes ended up sending me down the rabbit hole that is their website.


My evil plan is coming to fruition. Mua ha ha ha. >: D

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 		fffff. TVtropes eats lives.

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JKatkina wrote:
fffff. TVtropes eats lives.


It's definitely eaten mine.

Hmm...

Maybe Slenderman is simply the physical manifestation of TVTropes?!?!?!? Shocked

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pkticker wrote:
It's definitely eaten mine.

Hmm...

Maybe Slenderman is simply the physical manifestation of TVTropes?!?!?!? Shocked


Oh god! D: OH NOOO!

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