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[Magus00]

[The Rogue Wolf]

[Dray]

Random notice: The rumpled shirt that we see at 2:12 is totally the same shirt that Alex was wearing in #20.

Nothing especially "OH MY GOD!" about that, just something I hadn't seen before when scrubbing through it!

[GnomonRose]

Foxeris, you're cool.

[Everfalling]

i donno if this was mentioned somewhere else but do we know where this basement place is IRL? like, OOG? from the google ad parody i gathered this all takes place in Alabama but i wonder if anyone has actually identified the basement location yet.

[Trou]

Is it possible that Masky was trying to lead Jay into the bathroom so he could knock him out? Bear with me, Masky knows J would spot the doll, and placed it so he would go into the bathroom, and while it looks like Masky was just peeping, maybe he was trying to sneek up on J. J spots him so he legs it, and somehow sends J in the loop. Each time the doll has moved a little closer to the bathroom, as if to say, 'no, really, get back in there'. Once in the bathroom, Masky could sneek up on J, maybe from the door to the left of the bathroom that was locked. Masky knocks J out and puts him in the closet. My theory is to protect him. It looks like Masky sleeps there, so he feels safe there, so maybe he knew Slender was after J so tries to hide him. IMO thats why his touch is off in the closet. Maybe the door to the basement is how Slender gets in this world/part of town, so the door closing could be him going back home after not finding J, so close call, but J follows. The Mask could just be on the door, a red harring as such.

As for the loop, what ever it is affects J in real-time to the camera. When J first jumps, he panics a bit, so if he did lose time, so did the camera. Maybe it's Slender messing with his head. I don't think it is time travel tho.

OOG: What if they didn't intend it to be a teleport, more maybe to show that things are getting weirder. It's a pretty sweet sequence, maybe thats all it is?? Anyway let me know what you think!

[Dray]

I'm wondering about the door being Slendy's portal. The MH crew's first experience seems to be out by the red tower, not at Brian's house. If that's the case, what prompted Slendy to move on in? (Masky/TTA?!)

In any case, I can sort of see how locking Jay up in the closet would keep him safe. I'm still not convinced that the mask was a red herring. I'm also not convinced that the door was being pulled closed on the other side so much as the momentum of Jay's closet door propelled it closed. Like it was laying partially ajar (doors are now open) with the mask hanging from it as if to say that, yes, this is definitely where we need you to go.

How THAT helped him...

It seems like Masky is more interested in keeping Jay safe long enough so that people can be properly reunited. I think that Jay may have screwed up somewhere. The first time he effed up in the house, he woke up in his car. This time he wakes up in his room... I wonder if someone's bringing him back in hopes that he'll try again?


((Also, it was a really sweet sequence. XD It seems like the MH guys wouldn't do it, though, unless they were attempting to indicate something a little deeper than 'that was cool and fucked up!' at least... TTA videos are made by the same dudes, so I assume that there's some overlap of complexities... ^^))

[Guest]

[Dray]

Oh wow, that could very potentially be Slendy. It could also just be a bit of light striking the trees a certain way... when you keep watching it shifts in a way that seems more like light.

It makes more sense that Jay would be made to black out and put in the closet, though it's weird that the camera wouldn't register this somehow. Masky seemed to cause some significant distortion in #19, but in #23 there isn't nearly as much towards the beginning. Still, I can see where you're coming from with that. It's just odd that Jay would wind up on his feet during these 'blackouts' moving through doors. Maybe we're finally seeing on camera what happens to Jay when he's blacked out entirely? He wakes up not remembering anything on the tape. It could just as easily be that he's drifting in and out of consciousness as he's filming, and is at the same time turning the camera on and off again...?

I'm torn with the underground facility vs. basement idea. It's quite obviously not a basement that you would find in any residence, but in game is it supposed to represent a warped basement? The fact that they show off the (potentially) underground facility in #13 makes me think that they're pointing to the space as belonging there, but #23 with Jay apparently getting there by heading down Brian's stairs is messing me up! XD

[Serenity]

Could it be that Slendy is just making Jay forget? Making Jay turn off the camera?

Then, Jay could be moving around the house freely, and does not remember a single thing. He wakes up standing because he didn't woke up, he just doesn't remember opening the door and standing in Masky's room.

[Dray]

That's what I was thinking. Either Slendy's making him do it, or Masky is. They've set things up in #19 such that it's possible that Masky has that ability, whether by good old fashioned whack to the back of the head (though how he'd wake up standing up...?) or some stranger method... since Jay has no evidence and no recollection, we can't really tease that out!

Why would Masky/whomever go to the trouble of having him run through the house, 'turning him off' and bringing him back as near to the spot he left him in before setting him up again, just to do it over and over before he hits the closet?

Was it just to toy with him? Then bringing him to the closet was a matter of being done with him or bored of him and dropping him off there for whenever he came to again? (Again with him 'coming to' while standing up... if folks are right and the door across the way was being pulled closed, did Masky/whoever spend a few hours with Jay -- as seen by the darkness in the previous shot and the vague sunlight just coming out of the closet -- drop him in the closet, leave the mask hanging on the opposite door knob, and snap him back into it again just as he was closing the door?)

D: Hanging around Slendy for too long must make people's brains so fried that they start frying things around them, too!

[Serenity]

Personally, I don't think Masky has the power to make Jay forget. Maybe, while chasing Masky around, Jay stumbled upon things who shouldn't know about, so Slendy made him forget. Masky started to realize this with Jay's panicked breaths and whatnot, (I dunno) and conked him out putting him in the closet. Maybe they even spent a few minutes talking when he came to before Masky realized Slendy is gonna make him forget. So, he pushed Jay back, left the closet, left his mask or an extra hanging, maybe for a way to make Jay remember? Well, he high-tailed it out of there as Jay "woke up" not really wake up, but...he forgot that he was standing there talking to Masky.

Now I'm just rambling.

[Guest]

[Droshi]

[Mithost]

I've really just been lurking so far, but reading the past few posts, I kind of wanted to put my two cents in. I'm not a master of logic, but these are just some things that I've pieced together that seem reasonable to me.

As far as the forgetting goes - it seems like people tend to forget things when Slendy's near. In Entry 17, for example, Slendy is right outside the window. This seems to be (in my opinion) around or shortly after when Brian goes missing. Tim says that Brian ran out for a minute to the store. If you accept that Entry 17 happened before Entry 20, then this makes sense, in that in Entry 20 nobody's really sure where Brian is, when he left, or when he'll be back. If Slendy "got him" when he ran out, then everyone just kind of pushed it to the back of their minds and forgot, since Slendy is so very close to them all. It also makes sense that Jay forgot that any of Entry 17 ever happened, because of the proximity to Slendy. More on forgetting in a moment.

The other major thing I want to cover is the issue of Jay/Masky in Entry 19, and the TTA entry Return. For the record, and for the rest of this to make sense, I want to state that I think Masky, as has been suggested many times previously, is there to protect or warn Jay.

We know that when Slendy is very close, there is camera distortion, and for the time being let's assume that Slendy's presence is also associated with memory loss, or unconscious actions. This would then suggest that Slendy is nearby in Entry 19, when Masky's just hanging out, presumably watching over Jay. He notices the camera after it starts malfunctioning, which could be because the display showed the distortion, or something along those lines.

Now, before I continue, I also want to suggest some parallels between MH Slendy and SA Slendy that I don't have any reason to believe are true, other than these two videos. That is, the descriptions of Slendy has having a sort of ability to control peoples' minds or actions, luring them toward him. That said, I think this is what happened in Entry 19. That is, I think that Slendy was after Jay, and was luring him toward...whatever Slendy does to people.

If this is the case, and Masky did see the camera distortion, I think it extremely likely that he nabbed Jay, took him to Brian's house and painted his face to hide him from Slendy. (Since I also think that that's why they wear the masks.) Slendy does walk right over Jay (the video Return, by the way) and toward the camera. This in itself is not evidence that Slendy doesn't know Jay's there, or can't detect him, but I think that this is the most likely reason that Jay's face would be painted. Then, still in a mostly unconscious state, Jay wanders back into his bedroom three hours later.

Sorry for the length, just trying to be as clear as I can. And yes, I do know I'm assuming quite a few things.



TL;DR: Slendy makes you forget, Masky protects Jay, facepaint saves the day.

...I think I'm letting MH take over my life.