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M3thod
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BurritoX wrote:


At the time alex didn't know it was slendy, he believed that SOMEONE was following, and stalking him, he just turned off the lights so he coudn't be seen while he could see his stalker.

Didn't quite work, but, yeah.


Makes sense XD Though, after Entry 6 (theoretically, a continuation of Entry 1) I'd think that Alex would know that Slendy isn't just your average-grade stalker. Slendy gets pretty tall in 6. That, and in a lot totheark's videos, lights are manipulated (Just watched Return, but if I remember correctly, there are others), though that might just be for dramatic effect.

I'll leave my hypothesizing at that. XD

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I keep imagining the technical stuff that went into making Return and now all I can see is someone standing in the hall flicking the lights on and off, and the editors adding in some contrast jitter. XD It makes it kind of hilarious.

It also seems like Alex was trying a lot of different things, if his scribbling was any indication -- maybe he tried turning the lights off one night and found out that that wasn't a successful way to deal with the faceless fiend?

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thewood
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MH meta theory

just a quick theory on the overall series

* the story alex wrote and started to film somehow concerned and perhaps defined the slender man
* there is only a little we know about the original inner story ... we know it concerns a character returning to his home town and people he used to know and somehow became stuck in a loop and we know it concerns a fire at a camp site
* somehow the slender man was able to pass into the real life of alex and the others as they developed the story ideas and filmed it
* alex continued to write/rewrite the story and this evolved into the scribbles and doodles he is seen working on as he gradually lost it
* the slender man has taken some of the cast and crew into the realm of the story
* j was also indentified as the script co-ordinator perhaps semi-seriously but he has also now contributed to the story arc
* the times when j is ' gone ' he is in the realm of the ' inner ' marble hornets story ... the story within the story ... which as alex has gradually lost the plot ( literally ) has become more of a nightmarish horror story ...

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That would be amazing. o_o

We'd speculated in the past that they were in some 'other' place and that TTA was trying to bring him in, or that he was trying to bring him out of this 'other' place, but hadn't made that sort of connection.

Very cool, if it turns out to be that!

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thewood
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things like the painting of the forest fire he insists on putting in the featurette ... may have informed his writing and become the fire at sarahs camp he mentions ... if alex has become totheark in a way he is still writing the story alongside j as they negotiate the narrative between them

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Man, a fictional character trapped within the fictional world's fiction. You have gone and imploded my brain, TW. Thank you for that. XD

I had always supposed that TTA was guiding Jay (either to his doom or to his salvation, could never figure that out) but if TTA is guiding Jay to his conclusion... then I guess it could be both at once. o_o

Does this mean that TTA is a 4th wall breaker in more than one sense? And that Jay has flashes of 4th-wall breaking when he interacts with us players?

(I freaking love this series. XD)

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baka.vaka
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Has anyone had any contact with Jay or TTA recently? I feel like there's some new direction we've got to be missing.

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Trout

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AshleySix wrote:
Trout
not been mentioned on here im fairly sure ...

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a less sh*t idea about time travel.

had a thought last night. i think we all agree that the time travel idea is a bit of a cop-out as it seems ot be coming out of no where, and makes as little sense as aliens, dreaming, or "a magician did it". but i think i may have sussed it...

if we think back to entrys which J says he finds especially unnerving because he doesnt remember them, what if thats becuase they havent happened yet? or atleast, the characters havent been transported back to that time to act it out. maybe when people are waiting around for tim or brian (i forget who it is that keeps going missing), they're at the time being taken back to a point they had no recollection of before hand.
this also kinda fits into the slenderman mythos, as people are either discovered dismantled in trees (which i dont think would fit well in MH), or not discovered at all.

its very hard to get your head around, and even more difficult to acutally vocalise what i'm trying to say here, but i think its an interesting idea. bring on the flaws.
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Re: a less sh*t idea about time travel.

liam177lewis wrote:
had a thought last night. i think we all agree that the time travel idea is a bit of a cop-out as it seems ot be coming out of no where, and makes as little sense as aliens, dreaming, or "a magician did it". but i think i may have sussed it...

[theorytheorytheory]

...bring on the flaws.


How can you honestly say it makes as little sense as aliens when SLENDER MAN IS AN ABNORMALLY TALL HUMANOID CREATURE WITH TENTACLE ARMS AND NO FACE?

That's all.

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Re: a less sh*t idea about time travel.

liam177lewis wrote:
had a thought last night. i think we all agree that the time travel idea is a bit of a cop-out as it seems ot be coming out of no where, and makes as little sense as aliens, dreaming, or "a magician did it". but i think i may have sussed it...

if we think back to entrys which J says he finds especially unnerving because he doesnt remember them, what if thats becuase they havent happened yet? or atleast, the characters havent been transported back to that time to act it out. maybe when people are waiting around for tim or brian (i forget who it is that keeps going missing), they're at the time being taken back to a point they had no recollection of before hand.
this also kinda fits into the slenderman mythos, as people are either discovered dismantled in trees (which i dont think would fit well in MH), or not discovered at all.


Wait, I'm confused...how do you account for the physical tapes if people are traveling back in time? Why would Slendy be transporting them back in time to film a movie anyway? I may not understand your theory completely (I'm more than a little slow this morning), but I think I have room to question the motivation.

As far as the time travel theory...it may not be simple 'oh let's go through the black hole into the past' kind of time travel. It may be more 'Lost' style time travel, which is purposeful, nuanced and very difficult to understand. XD

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Yeah, having a tape from the future (or even more tapes) mixed in with ones that had been filmed in the past seems really odd to me. I think I like the idea that Slenderman fucks with their memory recall better than that the events that Jay or even Alex don't remember simply haven't happened yet.

And again, so far as we've seen there's not really decent evidence of time travel. Just because TTA is bringing forward imagery and sounds from the past does not necessarily means that he's outside of the timeline. Just because people are not remembering certain things does not mean that they're going outside of the timeline in the way that you're suggesting.

I am willing to give teleportation a go what with the last two entries seeming to be quite blatant in trying to demonstrate such a thing. But there are time gaps where Jay is unaware of his actions or location in the meantime, and to me if there was indication of actual time travel, we would see that he showed up from point A to point B, having done all of his awkward blank-out stuff within a relatively short period of time. Aka he would be gone for two minutes instead of two hours, though he would have been able to do two-hours-worth of bullshit due to the time travel element. And we're not seeing that!

Unless I'm getting the idea of time travel all wrong... but I would think that the MH crew would leave us some more obvious indicators that time's being warped and not space, like they seem to be doing now. o_o

Though... I am still rather fond of the idea that the teleportation is an elaborate ruse to scare Jay into action again. TTA messing with his head seems more likely to me, that he/they are willing to go to such lengths to scare bricks out of him in order to get him back onto the trail! The way that TTA works -- with subliminal messages and hints and clues and even direct commands -- I can see him thinking, "okay, let's put into his head the idea that he can't even trust fundamental rules governing space and time. If I put him that on edge, he'll be like silly putty because he'll so desperately need to hear SOME voice of reason, even if it does seem crazy."

If TTA really does act like this, I think that we'll soon see him pounding in the final stake; a confirmation that he's the last thing that Jay can 'trust'. If this doesn't happen, I'll probably be more willing to trust that teleportation and even time travel have been happening. It just seems like TTA is in too much control for us to be introducing other elements, and that he's quite consciously building the web.

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Dray wrote:


Though... I am still rather fond of the idea that the teleportation is an elaborate ruse to scare Jay into action again. TTA messing with his head seems more likely to me, that he/they are willing to go to such lengths to scare bricks out of him in order to get him back onto the trail! The way that TTA works -- with subliminal messages and hints and clues and even direct commands -- I can see him thinking, "okay, let's put into his head the idea that he can't even trust fundamental rules governing space and time. If I put him that on edge, he'll be like silly putty because he'll so desperately need to hear SOME voice of reason, even if it does seem crazy."


Good point. I'm a little more sympathetic to the teleportation/messes with your mind school myself, if for no other reason than I'm somehow more freaked out by those things than time travel.

In a related vein, didn't TTA mention that Jay was an unreliable narrator/couldn't be trusted because he was "human"? Does that mean that TTA is no longer human/was never human?

Feel free to trout the living daylights out of me for that.

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Speculation: Electricity

Some notes about electricity.

Have you noticed the reoccurrence of powerlines in MH? They seem to be everywere.

Introduction - The footage from the moving car. It starts out beside some kind of closed of facility, perhaps a power plant (geothermal?), then follows a straight path of power lines, thrue different clips mind you, untill the video fades out.
Entry 12 - Power lines clearly visible in background
entry 13 - at 0:34, before Alex walks of to encounter SM, he notices a black cable drawn through the trees. (maybe he follows it?)
Impurity - Powerlines above the trees (THIS is what got me noticing them. They seem so prominent in this video. Also, thunder storm.)
Exit - Powerlines visible in background
Signal - powerlines in creepy old footage, clearly visible behind Boy at 0:12

(These are just examples, I'm sure I've missed a few since I only brought up the ones I remember noticing since before)

Then there's the blinking lights, occuring both in Deluge and Return.

Now, some of these could surely be coincidences. Powerlines are everywhere, you see them all the time, right?

But in the woods?

I mentioned Impurity, bolts of lightning above a treeline with visible powerlines. This is such a striking image, kinda stuck in my mind. Got me thinking about telegraph lines. You know, telegraph Operator/morse code/binary codes, as well as the Operator symbol, which could symbolize a crossed line (teleportation?)

The Slenderlair in 22/23 could be part of a Geothermal Power Plant, those huge turbines/cylinders looks really familiar. The BONE-room at the house (small door in hallway, you all know it) could also be the top part of a Geothermal Pump.

So, here comes the leap of faith. Is Slenderman a creature of electricity, generated through geological, underground forces, and spread about to cause terror through the use of powerlines? Is Masky? Or maybe they just travel by it? You know, kinda like in Fire walk with me/Twin Peaks? I am the arm, and I sound like this "BOUBOUBOUBOUB" etc etc.

This might all be nonsense, you tell me. But I think the telegraph-angle has got some merit to it.

I'm sorry to throw it all out in such a lump, but it all just came together that way.

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