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Kjax8
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 		Re: a less sh*t idea about time travel.
liam177lewis wrote:


if we think back to entrys which J says he finds especially unnerving because he doesnt remember them, what if thats becuase they havent happened yet? or atleast, the characters havent been transported back to that time to act it out. maybe when people are waiting around for tim or brian (i forget who it is that keeps going missing), they're at the time being taken back to a point they had no recollection of before hand.
this also kinda fits into the slenderman mythos, as people are either discovered dismantled in trees (which i dont think would fit well in MH), or not discovered at all.


I posted a similar idea but with the addition of J and TTA being one in the same, just split personalities, Ghost-in-the-shell, [insert other such nonsense] being the one taking over during such instances.

The problem with time travel, as Back to the Future so ably demonstrated, is that the pieces all have to fit perfectly, and I don't think they do. Perhaps we just don't have all the pieces. But I think the biggest fundamental flaw is that we are reliant on an electronic piece of equipment for our information, and if MH has taught us anything it's that these can be manipulated. I mean how hard could it be to make someone disappear on camera for two hours? (the film makers did)

I hate to go back to it, but I really think that TTA's comments about trusting J are storyline related. My English major keeps telling me that it means he's an unreliable narrator. And as a few recent movies have demonstrated, it can be fun to lie to the audience. Twisted Evil

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 		This is interesting, but should it not be in the game discussion thread? Sorry to be an organization nazi.

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 		If anything I can see this being related to the teleportation aspect. (if indeed it is truly teleporting)

The sheer amount of electronic interference could certainly point to something at least similar to what you're proposing. Maybe that's just how SM gets around with no one noticing...

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 		Traveling through the powerlines, perhaps. Maybe that's how he got into Jay's television.

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Dray wrote:

Though... I am still rather fond of the idea that the teleportation is an elaborate ruse to scare Jay into action again. TTA messing with his head seems more likely to me, that he/they are willing to go to such lengths to scare bricks out of him in order to get him back onto the trail! The way that TTA works -- with subliminal messages and hints and clues and even direct commands -- I can see him thinking, "okay, let's put into his head the idea that he can't even trust fundamental rules governing space and time. If I put him that on edge, he'll be like silly putty because he'll so desperately need to hear SOME voice of reason, even if it does seem crazy."


Totally. I think that, despite the fact that Slenderman is a mythical being and doesn't necessarily follow the "rules of nature" or whatever, that they aren't really traveling through time and space. TTA is just fucking with his head and Jay is eating it up because he's so scared and alone.

Also, Dray, you are kind of amazing. Thanks for making this whole series more fun to follow.

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 		Exactly

And when I think about it, when we first see him, he's standing almost directly underneath a light. The lights flickering in Return, the spot Alex stops at in Entry 2 is right underneath a light post (where he supposedly saw him), the playground is full of light poles for SM to slip in and out of. Maybe there's more to this...

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 		Slenderman as a creature formed from the geothermal/electrical excesses of the world. Like Godzilla and nuclear power/waste.

The only thing, if we follow the SM mythos (you know, straight outta Something Awful Razz ), he has been around for longer than electricity. So unless he was only around during thunder storms, it doesn't seem to fly.

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FourAlarmFire wrote:
Slenderman as a creature formed from the geothermal/electrical excesses of the world. Like Godzilla and nuclear power/waste.

The only thing, if we follow the SM mythos (you know, straight outta Something Awful Razz ), he has been around for longer than electricity. So unless he was only around during thunder storms, it doesn't seem to fly.


Not necessarily. Electricity has always been around, just not the means to harness it. Perhaps he could manifest during the lightning storms and would have to hang around and do his thing until the next lightning storm when he could disappear back to wherever he's from.

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 		I think I'm going to quote ptlundholm's post in the game discussion thread, just to keep the forum a little more organized. If it's there, it can get proper attention.

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 		This was posted in its own thread, and I thought it would more appropriate here. It's an interesting theory and I'd like to see it discussed. My apologies if it's been covered, but I haven't seen it myself.

ptlundholm wrote:
Some notes about electricity.

Have you noticed the reoccurrence of powerlines in MH? They seem to be everywere.

Introduction - The footage from the moving car. It starts out beside some kind of closed of facility, perhaps a power plant (geothermal?), then follows a straight path of power lines, thrue different clips mind you, untill the video fades out.
Entry 12 - Power lines clearly visible in background
entry 13 - at 0:34, before Alex walks of to encounter SM, he notices a black cable drawn through the trees. (maybe he follows it?)
Impurity - Powerlines above the trees (THIS is what got me noticing them. They seem so prominent in this video. Also, thunder storm.)
Exit - Powerlines visible in background
Signal - powerlines in creepy old footage, clearly visible behind Boy at 0:12

(These are just examples, I'm sure I've missed a few since I only brought up the ones I remember noticing since before)

Then there's the blinking lights, occuring both in Deluge and Return.

Now, some of these could surely be coincidences. Powerlines are everywhere, you see them all the time, right?

But in the woods?

I mentioned Impurity, bolts of lightning above a treeline with visible powerlines. This is such a striking image, kinda stuck in my mind. Got me thinking about telegraph lines. You know, telegraph Operator/morse code/binary codes, as well as the Operator symbol, which could symbolize a crossed line (teleportation?)

The Slenderlair in 22/23 could be part of a Geothermal Power Plant, those huge turbines/cylinders looks really familiar. The BONE-room at the house (small door in hallway, you all know it) could also be the top part of a Geothermal Pump.

So, here comes the leap of faith. Is Slenderman a creature of electricity, generated through geological, underground forces, and spread about to cause terror through the use of powerlines? Is Masky? Or maybe they just travel by it? You know, kinda like in Fire walk with me/Twin Peaks? I am the arm, and I sound like this "BOUBOUBOUBOUB" etc etc.

This might all be nonsense, you tell me. But I think the telegraph-angle has got some merit to it.

I'm sorry to throw it all out in such a lump, but it all just came together that way.


This could open up possibilities like SM traveling through powerlines. Maybe he really was inside Jay's television in Entry 24.

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FourAlarmFire wrote:
Also, Dray, you are kind of amazing. Thanks for making this whole series more fun to follow.


Ha ha, I'm not sure what I did but thanks? XD Tbh this is kind of my first fandom so if I seem overly enthusiastic it's just novel to enjoy the 'oooh, shinies!" with other people. The fact that it's an evolving storyline is just the icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned!

FourAlarmFire wrote:
Totally. I think that, despite the fact that Slenderman is a mythical being and doesn't necessarily follow the "rules of nature" or whatever, that they aren't really traveling through time and space. TTA is just fucking with his head and Jay is eating it up because he's so scared and alone.


I am still torn over whether TTA is fucking with his head in a paranormal sense in addition to a mundane one. I mean, we see distortion when Masky is lingering around Jay's place, for example. Even if we can't be sure that TTA and Masky are the same person, can they exert some force on their surroundings in the same way that Slendy has been demonstrated to do?

*head explodes* What if Slendy isn't the one who's causing the distortion in as much as it's been TTA/Alex all along. XD Probably not likely but would be really... entertaining somehow.

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Cheshire01 wrote:
Traveling through the powerlines, perhaps. Maybe that's how he got into Jay's television.


"Time to go to Jay's house!" -5 seconds later- "NOT AGAIN!"

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 		Hmm, could be an interesting alternative for when Slendy disappears in #14. Always wondered where he went.

Then again, if that's the case, why is Jay's door the warp-point?

It might also support the idea of camera distortion being common to Slendy's appearances. And mental disturbance... there's still a lot of chatter about power lines causing negative side effects on people (unproven I think, but it's there) and sickness is another theme. I could see this having some weight as a background detail.

Could also play into the idea that the script is important and that Alex's bringing them all into the story (or bringing the story into real life) is causing shit to go down. Some weird intersection of technology and fantasy fubaring real life.

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ptlundholm wrote:

I mentioned Impurity, bolts of lightning above a treeline with visible powerlines. This is such a striking image, kinda stuck in my mind. Got me thinking about telegraph lines. You know, telegraph Operator/morse code/binary codes, as well as the Operator symbol, which could symbolize a crossed line (teleportation?)


That actually would explain "Operator" pretty well, I think. What else could that mean? I think everyone pretty much assumed it meant Seth, the camera operator, but that theory always seemed sort of wishy-washy to me for some reason.

And I don't have sound on my main computer (which sucks considering how "HEY LISTEN" TTA is) but a lot of TTAs videos have beeping noises in 'em, yeah?

Regarding the time travel, new theory; Slendy is a Time Lord and Masky is his companion. Discuss.

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Mops wrote:
ptlundholm wrote:

I mentioned Impurity, bolts of lightning above a treeline with visible powerlines. This is such a striking image, kinda stuck in my mind. Got me thinking about telegraph lines. You know, telegraph Operator/morse code/binary codes, as well as the Operator symbol, which could symbolize a crossed line (teleportation?)


That actually would explain "Operator" pretty well, I think. What else could that mean? I think everyone pretty much assumed it meant Seth, the camera operator, but that theory always seemed sort of wishy-washy to me for some reason.

And I don't have sound on my main computer (which sucks considering how "HEY LISTEN" TTA is) but a lot of TTAs videos have beeping noises in 'em, yeah?

Regarding the time travel, new theory; Slendy is a Time Lord and Masky is his companion. Discuss.


Oh, man, I MUST see their version of TARDIS

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