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CONTACT: Real-life Dale Mail!
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MaggieMae
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 		CONTACT: Real-life Dale Mail!
I just got a package in the mail from Dale. It came in a manila bubble envelope and was return addressed to Dale at his home address. The postmark is hard to make out. It was mailed on April 7 from somplace that it looks like has a partial zip of 089... and the town name starts with Kil....

Inside was a handwritten note from Dale that reads:

Thanks!

Dale S.

Put this in a safe place!

Also included was a handmade polymer clay disc that is about three or so inches around. It is imprinted with an owl and looks like the coin on the moon at the CTW page.

I am going to try and attach pictures so you can all see it too.

maggiemae

[Note: edited by SpaceBass to add smaller versions of each pic.]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:24 pm
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 		dale disc
How cool is that.....

:)cem

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Sunny du Pree
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 		Dalemail and The owl of athens
Hello dear Wishers!!!
forgive me if this is not new.
So I felt that doing a little more research on the owl was applicable so here is a lovely website..
a phrase i had never heard.."Like taking Owls to Athens"
If you had an owl coin you new that it was worth its weight

http://www.sikyon.com/athens/coins/coins_eg01.html

The owl was a symbol of wisdom and knowledge in ancient Greece and
a symbol of economic power


Athens was named for her patron goddess Athena who, according to myth, sprang fully grown and armed from the head of her father Zeus. She defeated Poseidon for possession of Attica by producing the olive tree, and thus winning their contest of miracles. The owl, symbol of the goddess, perhaps originated in her epithet of glaukopis, meaning "bright-eyed" or "owl faced".

The statesman Solon reformed the standard weight and type of Athenian coinage in the early sixth century BC. The Athenian type of Athena on the obverse and the owl on the reverse was introduced perhaps around 566 in honour of the Festival of the Panathenaic Games--the type is from that time constant throughout Athenian history. The portrait of Athena is probably the oldest example of a human head on ancient coinage. The type with both the portrait on the obverse and the owl on the reverse is the earliest Greek coinage with both an obverse and reverse type.

http://www.usask.ca/antiquities/coins/greece.html


people previously thot that it was in fact a Roman Coin , the Owl of Minerva, the Roman goddess of Wisdom..but the greek coin predated it.

http://www.murraystate.edu/qacd/chs/phirgs/credit.htm
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AnthraX101
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 		08088 is officialy registered to Vincentown, just a spit away from Aglarua. That post mark is strange...I can't place it. The "089*" zips are mostly New Brunswick, with one for Highland Park.

AnthraX101

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danman_d
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 		Wow! This is WAY cool...

Just thought I'd add, a coin with a similar owl on it is in the moon at www.chasingthewish.com

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 		Gentle suggestion
I'll post my mail in a sec. Can I ask that we take spec to a different forum, so it's easier to see the inventory?
Thanks
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MaggieMae
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 		From CD:
ElderofZion just posted this to CD:

Mail received this afternoon. Mine came in a small envelope (3-5/8" x 6-1/4"). Postmarked from Kilmer P&DC NJ, 088xx, April (and I think but can't confirm 7th). It contains a small slip of paper that says "Thanks. Please put this somewhere safe (in block print), and is signed Dale S.



and --



A plastic coin, or chip, slightly more than 1 inch in diameter, with a small hole in the center. There are four faces on both sides of the coin that mirror each other exactly, and separated in quadrants --



Face 1 is an Ankh



Face 2 is a crescent moon, surrounded on three sides by simple five pointed stars (that also look like starfish).



Face 3 is a yin--yang circle, each face has a single tiny line inside.



Face 4 is the hardest to describe -- there is a small circle in the center, with a downward pointing T extending down from the center of the circle. The circle is surrounded by a latticework of lines.

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I got a plain white envelope. Handwritten post-it "Thanks! Dale S Put this somewhere safe."

This postmark is clear:

Kilmer PD&C NJ 088 (nothing missing after that)
Apr 7 2003

More info on the pic here and here and here.

Thanx to Spacely and maggiemae for the research!
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elderofzion
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 		Disc Info
Thanks to Mags for posting earlier:

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 		Dalemail and The owl of athens
Further info on the owl symbol:

In early Indian folklore, Owls represent wisdom and helpfulness, and have powers of prophecy. This theme recurs in Aesop's fables and in Greek myths and beliefs. By the Middle Ages in Europe, the Owl had become the associate of witches and the inhabitant of dark, lonely and profane places, a foolish but feared spectre. An Owl's appearance at night, when people are helpless and blind, linked them with the unknown, its eerie call filled people with foreboding and apprehension: a death was imminent or some evil was at hand.

http://www.owlpages.com/mythology/

and here:
In many cultures, owls signal an underworld or serve to represent human spirits after death; in other cultures, owls represent supportive spirit helpers and allow humans (often shamans) to connect with or utilize their supernatural powers. Among some native groups in the Pacific Northwest of USA, owls served to bring shamans in contact with the dead, provided power for seeing at night, or gave power that enabled a shaman to find lost objects

http://www.owlpages.com/articles/lore_culture/owls_in_lore_4.html

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Sunny du Pree
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 		Dalemail and The owl of athens
Sorry guys that was me
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danman_d
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 		Re: From CD:
MaggieMae wrote:

Face 4 is the hardest to describe -- there is a small circle in the center, with a downward pointing T extending down from the center of the circle. The circle is surrounded by a latticework of lines.


I think this is a lion... The circle is its head, the horizontal and vertical lines form its forehead and nose, respectively, and the two dots are its eyes. The latticework of lines is the lion's mane.

What do you think?

Danny
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 		I thought the same thing at first. But you would have to turn the coin so the lion would be the right way up, which is something you don't do for the other three.

I'm thinking perhaps it's a symbol, maybe a sun. The ankh represents life, the yin yang is balance. Maybe the cresent moon and the fourth symbol are connected in their meaning.
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 		Dale Real Mail: The Sage Oracle Card
I recieved a card from the same deck as Dmax.... The Sage.... you can see and read about it here: http://www.dharma-haven.org/jesa/sage.html
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AnthraX101
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 		I receved the death card, found here:

http://www.worldoffroud.com/faeries/online/oracle/oracle/card-53.htm

I did not have a post mark on mine, but I did have the automatic sorting bar codes.

I am glad that they got my address correct. If some random person receved the death card in the mail... Wink

AnthraX101

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