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dotman4114
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JKatkina wrote:
All of this business with Masky and TTA being bad guys. I don't buy it.

For one, Masky only tackled Jay the once. He obviously had more opportunities to take down our hapless protagonist, but every other time we've seen him he's been avoidant. I read that first and only tackle as more of a "you took my pills you jerkface and I want them back!"

And TTA, well, his motives are not even close to clear, but he seems to have had opportunity to take Jay out as well -- in Addition, he's filming Jay while Jay is helplessly coughing in the hallway of the house. He does nothing to help or hinder Jay.

Now while I admit that none of this rules out the idea that Masky and TTA are toying with Jay in a nefarious manner or steering him towards the bad end, I don't believe they are. The videos have seemed to at most be trying to scare the shit out of Jay, or to urge him to do... something. I suspect that the messages that TTA has been trying to get across have been things intended to warn or help Jay, but that he can't come right out and say things. Why?

Slender Man is the approximation of a person, a kind of rough sketch of a human by a being that doesn't understand the importance of the subtle details. Generalized hands, generalized face -- he seems to me the construction of a creature that got the general shape of a human down and then said "well these little lumps and dips in this one tiny chunk of the body can't be all that important, can they?". I suspect that Slendy might have a similarly generalized understanding of human language and behavior.

Maybe he can understand basic human speech but metaphor and symbolism are beyond him. In that case, TTA's videos would seem like senseless gibberish to him (cause they don't do us, ha ha), and maybe even Masky's mask would be a valid form of disguise or defense. (If Slendy doesn't understand the concept of the mask being a metaphor for a human face, rather than a literal human face, he might be trying to stalk 'Masky' without realizing that he SHOULD be stalking the person BEHIND the mask, thus protecting the wearer's real identity from Slendy's attention).

In that case, maybe Slenderman would catch on to attempts to straight-up tell Jay what's going on and wipe any memories Jay would have of the TTA videos. TTA would thus be forced to use roundabout methods of communication through symbolism and metaphor, and desperately hope that Jay catches on to some vital clue before getting entirely brainfucked.

tl;dr: Slendy fails basic English, and TTA is avoiding him by being a very skilled artfag.
Interesting theory, It definatly sounds possible and gives us a new perspective on Slendy's ability. My Opinion on Masky/TTA was always kind of a love/hate thing XD As in he's trying to help Jay but he's a bit ruthless with his methods
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JKatkina wrote:
All of this business with Masky and TTA being bad guys. I don't buy it.

For one, Masky only tackled Jay the once. He obviously had more opportunities to take down our hapless protagonist, but every other time we've seen him he's been avoidant. I read that first and only tackle as more of a "you took my pills you jerkface and I want them back!"

And TTA, well, his motives are not even close to clear, but he seems to have had opportunity to take Jay out as well -- in Addition, he's filming Jay while Jay is helplessly coughing in the hallway of the house. He does nothing to help or hinder Jay.

Now while I admit that none of this rules out the idea that Masky and TTA are toying with Jay in a nefarious manner or steering him towards the bad end, I don't believe they are. The videos have seemed to at most be trying to scare the shit out of Jay, or to urge him to do... something. I suspect that the messages that TTA has been trying to get across have been things intended to warn or help Jay, but that he can't come right out and say things. Why?

Slender Man is the approximation of a person, a kind of rough sketch of a human by a being that doesn't understand the importance of the subtle details. Generalized hands, generalized face -- he seems to me the construction of a creature that got the general shape of a human down and then said "well these little lumps and dips in this one tiny chunk of the body can't be all that important, can they?". I suspect that Slendy, as a mysterious kind of otherly-intelligence, might have a similarly generalized understanding of human language and behavior.

Maybe he can understand basic human speech but metaphor and symbolism are beyond him. In that case, TTA's videos would seem like senseless gibberish to him (cause they don't to us, ha ha), and maybe even Masky's mask would be a valid form of disguise or defense. (If Slendy doesn't understand the concept of the mask being a metaphor for a human face, rather than a literal human face, he might be trying to stalk 'Masky' without realizing that he SHOULD be stalking the person BEHIND the mask, thus protecting the wearer's real identity from Slendy's attention).

In that case, maybe Slenderman would catch on to attempts to straight-up tell Jay what's going on and wipe any memories Jay would have of the TTA videos. TTA would thus be forced to use roundabout methods of communication through symbolism and metaphor, and desperately hope that Jay catches on to some vital clue before getting entirely brainfucked.

tl;dr: Slendy fails basic English, and TTA is avoiding him by being a very skilled artfag.


<4 This theory is so awesome.

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JKatkina wrote:
All of this business with Masky and TTA being bad guys. I don't buy it.

For one, Masky only tackled Jay the once. He obviously had more opportunities to take down our hapless protagonist, but every other time we've seen him he's been avoidant. I read that first and only tackle as more of a "you took my pills you jerkface and I want them back!"

And TTA, well, his motives are not even close to clear, but he seems to have had opportunity to take Jay out as well -- in Addition, he's filming Jay while Jay is helplessly coughing in the hallway of the house. He does nothing to help or hinder Jay.

Now while I admit that none of this rules out the idea that Masky and TTA are toying with Jay in a nefarious manner or steering him towards the bad end, I don't believe they are. The videos have seemed to at most be trying to scare the shit out of Jay, or to urge him to do... something. I suspect that the messages that TTA has been trying to get across have been things intended to warn or help Jay, but that he can't come right out and say things. Why?

Slender Man is the approximation of a person, a kind of rough sketch of a human by a being that doesn't understand the importance of the subtle details. Generalized hands, generalized face -- he seems to me the construction of a creature that got the general shape of a human down and then said "well these little lumps and dips in this one tiny chunk of the body can't be all that important, can they?". I suspect that Slendy might have a similarly generalized understanding of human language and behavior.

Maybe he can understand basic human speech but metaphor and symbolism are beyond him. In that case, TTA's videos would seem like senseless gibberish to him (cause they don't do us, ha ha), and maybe even Masky's mask would be a valid form of disguise or defense. (If Slendy doesn't understand the concept of the mask being a metaphor for a human face, rather than a literal human face, he might be trying to stalk 'Masky' without realizing that he SHOULD be stalking the person BEHIND the mask, thus protecting the wearer's real identity from Slendy's attention).

In that case, maybe Slenderman would catch on to attempts to straight-up tell Jay what's going on and wipe any memories Jay would have of the TTA videos. TTA would thus be forced to use roundabout methods of communication through symbolism and metaphor, and desperately hope that Jay catches on to some vital clue before getting entirely brainfucked.

tl;dr: Slendy fails basic English, and TTA is avoiding him by being a very skilled artfag.



QFT and all that good stuff. I'm still of the opinion that TTA is trying to slip subliminals into Jay's brain to move him around like a meatpuppet, though if it was for his own good, it'd still line up awesomely with this.

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JKatkina wrote:
cool stuff


I really like this, especially the speculation about Slender Man. Similarly, I always figured that he really doesn't understand humans all that much. Like, his understanding of human language and interaction is probably a lot like what humans have between small animals; it's easy enough to tell when they're scared or whatever, but when they 'talk' it's just a bunch of chattering noises that you don't get. Slendy may have picked up on some little phrases, but I doubt he could really sit down with you and have a conversation. Nor would he really be interested in that. It would make sense that he wouldn't understand weird cryptic encoded shit like TTA pulls.

...because of the above, and because I see Slendy as being sort of curious/inquisitive in a twisted sort of way, I could also see him being like some little asshole kid who tries to pull said tiny animal's legs off just to see what it does in response. And that makes him scarier in my mind. D:

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spaekle wrote:
...because of the above, and because I see Slendy as being sort of curious/inquisitive in a twisted sort of way, I could also see him being like some little asshole kid who tries to pull said tiny animal's legs off just to see what it does in response. And that makes him scarier in my mind. D:


That's the vibe I keep getting from him too. Or something like... he's a force of nature, curious about humans, but curious in the same way that we're curious about, like, worms. Kids dissecting stunned but not dead worms in a classroom would seem the highest order of horror to worms if they were sentient, and a kid picking up a worm off of the ground would seem incomprehensible (lol teleportation) to the worm.

You can't reason with something like that, because it doesn't see you as capable of reason. You can't fight against something like that, because it's so much bigger. And if it's just paying attention to you because it feels like it, you don't have a hope in hell of escaping unless it loses interest, which is not something you'll ever have control over.

Total lack of control. Very scary. Very Happy

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JKatkina wrote:
spaekle wrote:
...because of the above, and because I see Slendy as being sort of curious/inquisitive in a twisted sort of way, I could also see him being like some little asshole kid who tries to pull said tiny animal's legs off just to see what it does in response. And that makes him scarier in my mind. D:


That's the vibe I keep getting from him too. Or something like... he's a force of nature, curious about humans, but curious in the same way that we're curious about, like, worms. Kids dissecting stunned but not dead worms in a classroom would seem the highest order of horror to worms if they were sentient, and a kid picking up a worm off of the ground would seem incomprehensible (lol teleportation) to the worm.

You can't reason with something like that, because it doesn't see you as capable of reason. You can't fight against something like that, because it's so much bigger. And if it's just paying attention to you because it feels like it, you don't have a hope in hell of escaping unless it loses interest, which is not something you'll ever have control over.

Total lack of control. Very scary. Very Happy


Total lack of control, something every human fears.

I wonder if Slenderman can even tell he's inspiring fear. I mean, when kids play with worms, most don't even stop to think that maybe the worm is scared.

So maybe Slenderman doesn't realize the terror he's inspired.


....Awesome.

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JKatkina wrote:

That's the vibe I keep getting from him too. Or something like... he's a force of nature, curious about humans, but curious in the same way that we're curious about, like, worms. Kids dissecting stunned but not dead worms in a classroom would seem the highest order of horror to worms if they were sentient, and a kid picking up a worm off of the ground would seem incomprehensible (lol teleportation) to the worm.


Anyone else getting the mental image of a Slenderstork and Jayworm?

(Aside from that, I like this theory. ;D)

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JKatkina wrote:
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This theory = WIN.

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you'd think that Alex would want to start filming with his buddy vs. with some dude with jealousy-inducing sideburns.


I think I give him a run for his money:

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baka.vaka wrote:
I apologize if this doesn't belong in trailhead, but I am trying to mentally disprove the teleportation theory, replacing it with the Slendy is established to mess with equipment and it could all be a tape jump... rather than a body jump" In entry 23, as he is bouncing form room to room, the level of light in the house changes, suggesting the passing of time. And in the most recent entry, the door trick could easily be a looped camera feed trick, a-la SPEED. Are there any reported instance of teleportation that prove it is instant / couldn't be a camera malfunction / slendermess?


I both love and hate that you referenced Speed. I've seen that movie way more than any human should.

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I think I give him a run for his money:


You're on your way to some seriously awe-inspiring mutton chops there, dude. Now go put on a mask and watch people sleep for a while. :B

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 		Stevie D, I love you.

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Is there any possibility, (ignoring the SA backstory of slenderman) that The tall skinny one, may be protecting the people he follows? Hes never attacked them.

I know this is far fetched, as his presence in some of the videos gives the impression that hes a negative influence. But im just throwing it out there.

I also know in one of the videos, slendy walks into alex room, and then the next shot we see of alex, he has a bloody head. But again, we dont actually see slendy attack him.

Now, going back to the backstory of slendy, he is supposed to attack people. So why hasnt he?
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 		That's hard to say for sure. Maybe he is the kind of creature that toys with his prey before finishing the job? Keep in mind that Brian (and Sarah?! arg loose ends) is missing and that at least Brian is noteworthily missing from an early point in time.

It could be that Slendy is never caught on tape harming people. And, erasing everyone else's memory (and in some cases, cameras!) serves pretty well to alleviate anyone's worries about the whole situation.

Lemme peddle out a theory that Brian going missing in #17/#20 is where he goes for good; that the crew is so lackadaisical because Slendy is consciously attempting to exert his 'forget everything' schtick on the boys. Tim, on his pills, does not take the brain rape quite so thoroughly. He's left with an uneasy feeling and a nasty physical reaction to Slenderman's interference. Later that night he is unnerved by Alex, Jay and Seth's oddness in as much as he is unnerved with a feeling that he just can't shake that something is really effing wrong.

Jay, three years later, is showing signs of the same physical problems (the coughing and feeling cold, etc.) and he (for whatever reason) is also slightly able to resist Slendy's brainrape. Not to the the extent that he can remember everything, but more that he has gut feelings when things are really wrong.

I don't think that if Slendy was trying to protect them, shit would be going down the way it was. I just think that Slendy is too coy or too horrible to be caught redhanded (even if we catch Alex redheaded there for a bit. o_o)

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I think I give him a run for his money:



I think that picture just needs to be reposted one more time. If I were a dude, I would be weeping with envy. XD Those are some damned fine chops, sir!

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 		Yeah, I totally agree. Also, I'm sure it's been mentioned before (I'm presuming here) but I wouldn't be supprisef if those pills were to keep him awake.
If he was being attacked in his sleep, or being controlled in his sleep, then I'm sure he would want to stay awake as long as possible.

Reminds me of nightmare on elm street where they were taking pills to stay awake.
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