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celticsfan87
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squidbutt wrote:


Obviously, Alex was at the club with Slenderman and Jay, and then Alex started wifin' on that Sarah chick and Slendy was like "Oh no man, wifin' ain't cool. Gimme 20 dollars." But Alex didn't have $20, because he's a college student and spent all of his money on tapes. So Slenderman is trying to track Jay down because he thinks he might know where Alex is.

Slenderman just really hates wifin, you guys. And that's what this is all about.

(Ok I'm done with that meme now.
Still don't think aliens are involved.)


Makes as much sense to me as the aliens theory. I realize that they have made several deviations away from the original Slenderman myth, but I don't think they're out to radically change him. And according to the original myth, he's been around since at least the 1300's. So I doubt that he crash-landed his ship and decided to stalk the first people he saw. Really the entire evidence for that theory seems to be "people lose their memory, and there's an ark, which means space-ship." No offense to the creator of the theory. It is by no means the worst theory to ever arise, and it does all fit but it also does jump around to a lot of bizarre conclusions, which don't seem to fit in the series.

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Dray wrote:

From what I can discern, Brian's character returned home from college to a town that he had a lot of problems with in the past. Sarah's character was his girlfriend, who he sounds like he had a lot of problems with and was trying to win back. (Sarah's also mentioned as having a hunting camp of all things... XD Weird?) Tim's character is just Brian's friend, sounds like they had been estranged but were trying to catch up with one another.


I've thought for a while now that there's probably a lot more to the actual Marble Hornets script than we'd thought; a lot of it SOUNDS completely unremarkable and "rom-com"esque but I'm suspecting otherwise. On a couple of occasions (I'm bad at #s, but 1.the entry where Alex & Jay are location-scouting, 2.the entry where they're doing a walkthrough and Slenderman is watching them in the field, they ask him to move and 3.the entry in the house with the painting and the script) the audio seems to cut out at specific moments, hiding something important from us. Plus the script itself distorting so we can't get a clear screenshot.

I'm suspecting that the film echoes real-life events, or vice versa.

The bit where he says he's going to "win [Sarah] back" and the bit where Alex mentions her having a "hunting camp" jump out at me. "Winning her back" we assume is romantic, but what if it's literal? Slendy has taken her and they are trying to get her back? What was she hunting? Slenderman? Or was it a camp to hunt for her after she was "taken"?
Also our main protagonist has been "distant" since he returned to his hometown. What is he preoccupied with?

The entry #20 quote from Alex of "pretty much everyone's at risk. Its a… terrifying place" reminds me a lot of the basement-type place they end up warping to.

I'm also struck by the fact that Alex & Jay have been making "script revisions" (entry #20 again). Perhaps the film started out being about something perfectly innocuous but has deviated due to Slenderman's influence? Jay doesn't remember this happening so it's perfectly possible he could've been under some type of control.

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Unfortunatalie wrote:
The entry #20 quote from Alex of "pretty much everyone's at risk. Its a… terrifying place" reminds me a lot of the basement-type place they end up warping to.

I'm also struck by the fact that Alex & Jay have been making "script revisions" (entry #20 again). Perhaps the film started out being about something perfectly innocuous but has deviated due to Slenderman's influence? Jay doesn't remember this happening so it's perfectly possible he could've been under some type of control.


I have the feeling that in #20, Alex is being sarcastic about just about everything. XD Whether or not what he said was truthful or just him being full of shit only changes his comment from being spooky to being ironic.

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 		I think the "terrifying place" would actually fit Brian's house, more than the "basement," since not everyone has been to that basement, but we know that everyone (besides Sarah, but I think we can safely assume she probably was there at some point) was in Brian's house at some time...again though, as Dray mentioned, that is assuming that Alex wasn't being Mr. Sarcastic-Pants when he made that comment.

Still, I feel there has got to be some reason why Masky has made the eyes of his mask so significant...if not aliens (and really, I myself would be disappointed if that ended up being the truth) then what could it be?

Even though it's probably not the case, I really like that idea of Sarah having the hunting camp, to hunt out Slendy...WARRIOR GIRL! hahahahahaha

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 		If the mask helps you see aliens then they're doing the same thing "They Live" did with sunglasses. I would be disappoint!

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hellozombie wrote:
Still, I feel there has got to be some reason why Masky has made the eyes of his mask so significant...if not aliens (and really, I myself would be disappointed if that ended up being the truth) then what could it be?


Someone mentioned once that it might have something to do with the fact that Slendy himself HAS no eyes. Exaggerated facial features might confuse him or something. It definitely seems relevant, though. In 'Return' Jay's all face painted and Slendy just ignores him, prefering to walk towards the camera. (Maybe TTA/Masky wasn't wearing his mask?)

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celticsfan87 wrote:


Makes as much sense to me as the aliens theory. I realize that they have made several deviations away from the original Slenderman myth, but I don't think they're out to radically change him. And according to the original myth, he's been around since at least the 1300's. So I doubt that he crash-landed his ship and decided to stalk the first people he saw. Really the entire evidence for that theory seems to be "people lose their memory, and there's an ark, which means space-ship." No offense to the creator of the theory. It is by no means the worst theory to ever arise, and it does all fit but it also does jump around to a lot of bizarre conclusions, which don't seem to fit in the series.


My thoughts exactly. Glad someone agrees.

Also wtf can I just point out that there is absolutely -no- evidence within the series to suggest that the mask helps you to see ALIENS or is a representation of a gray alien or anything of that sort? C'mon now...really? If MH had -anything- to do with aliens there would have been some sort of hint dropped by now. They've generally stuck with the Slenderman mythos thus far, so why would they do something like that?
I think people are just starting to pull random theories out of their asses because it'd be cool, but they're not really looking at things logically.

It's making me sadface. ):

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squidbutt wrote:
My thoughts exactly. Glad someone agrees.

Also wtf can I just point out that there is absolutely -no- evidence within the series to suggest that the mask helps you to see ALIENS or is a representation of a gray alien or anything of that sort? C'mon now...really? If MH had -anything- to do with aliens there would have been some sort of hint dropped by now. They've generally stuck with the Slenderman mythos thus far, so why would they do something like that?
I think people are just starting to pull random theories out of their asses because it'd be cool, but they're not really looking at things logically.

It's making me sadface. ):


Stuck with the SM mythos? Yeah, because there are plenty of children running around. The creators haven't really dropped hints about anything, so any possibilities are being thrown out. I believe I stated several times that I didn't like the idea, but it can't be thrown in the trash until something else is proven.

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Cheshire01 wrote:

Stuck with the SM mythos? Yeah, because there are plenty of children running around. The creators haven't really dropped hints about anything, so any possibilities are being thrown out. I believe I stated several times that I didn't like the idea, but it can't be thrown in the trash until something else is proven.


Well there was entry...what was it, #9? Children playing in the background. Alex chased him through a playground at night, too. No, children haven't been very prominent in the series, but that's hardly the most important Slendy-feature.
Isn't Occam's razor a bit more logical in this situation? Stick with the simplest theory until a more complicated one is proven, rather than the other way around?
It just seems to come out of nowhere.

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squidbutt wrote:
Well there was entry...what was it, #9? Children playing in the background. Alex chased him through a playground at night, too. No, children haven't been very prominent in the series, but that's hardly the most important Slendy-feature.
Isn't Occam's razor a bit more logical in this situation? Stick with the simplest theory until a more complicated one is proven, rather than the other way around?
It just seems to come out of nowhere.


The original mythos was pretty much 'tall suited guy with no face, stretchy arms/vector tentacles, stalks and takes children.' If the MH creators don't embellish on that, they won't have much of a story at all. I don't know if they plan to explain where the SM comes from, but there aren't any decent theories about it yet. I'm not sure how to stick with the simplest theory when there really isn't one.

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 		Ah, if only there was any hint that Sarah was originally out to be badass. XD Everything we saw from her was sort of passive, unfortunately.

I agree with Squidbutt about the alien theories. Maybe entertaining but also pretty far out there. XD I think we'll just have to sit on our butts for another two or three weeks to wait and see what comes of everything.

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Cheshire01 wrote:

Stuck with the SM mythos? Yeah, because there are plenty of children running around.


This really doesn't have anything to do with anything, but as far as the lack of kids things goes ... doesn't it depend on what definition you're using for 'kid'? Many people still consider college students 'kids' in some capacity, 'cause they haven't quite made it out into the real world on their own (this is especially true when something bad happens to them, people always bring up the fact that they were 'just kids'). Or it could be telling about our particular characters that Slendy is interested in them (or, at least Alex) ... maybe a childlike state of mind, or stunted emotional development.

Then again, kids disappearing can't really be written off. It's been speculated that something has happened to Brian, but nobody (in universe) was particularly worried at the time because he was nominally an adult and had the ability to up and split without telling them any time he wanted. Same thing for Alex ... he's allegedly out of state, but Jay hasn't had any contact with him to prove that. Maybe, in this universe, Slendy has always taken both adults and children ... it's just that the missing adults are easier to write off with a less sinister explanation.

Like I said ... doesn't really have much to do with anything, and the mythos may well be out the door ... but you can't write off theories that are partially based off the idea that they're trying to incorporate the actual mythos just because not everything meshes perfectly. I'd rather think of it as being the actual Slenderman, just with some details that hadn't be previously documented, rather than an alien or some other entity that just happens to look like Slendy. The trick is using the original mythos as a measuring stick rather than writ and wrote - a detail or theory doesn't have to fit perfectly, but it can help us weed out some of the more inane ones.

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guest1337 wrote:
Cheshire01 wrote:

Stuck with the SM mythos? Yeah, because there are plenty of children running around.


This really doesn't have anything to do with anything, but as far as the lack of kids things goes ... doesn't it depend on what definition you're using for 'kid'? Many people still consider college students 'kids' in some capacity, 'cause they haven't quite made it out into the real world on their own (this is especially true when something bad happens to them, people always bring up the fact that they were 'just kids'). Or it could be telling about our particular characters that Slendy is interested in them (or, at least Alex) ... maybe a childlike state of mind, or stunted emotional development.

Then again, kids disappearing can't really be written off. It's been speculated that something has happened to Brian, but nobody (in universe) was particularly worried at the time because he was nominally an adult and had the ability to up and split without telling them any time he wanted. Same thing for Alex ... he's allegedly out of state, but Jay hasn't had any contact with him to prove that. Maybe, in this universe, Slendy has always taken both adults and children ... it's just that the missing adults are easier to write off with a less sinister explanation.

Like I said ... doesn't really have much to do with anything, and the mythos may well be out the door ... but you can't write off theories that are partially based off the idea that they're trying to incorporate the actual mythos just because not everything meshes perfectly. I'd rather think of it as being the actual Slenderman, just with some details that hadn't be previously documented, rather than an alien or some other entity that just happens to look like Slendy. The trick is using the original mythos as a measuring stick rather than writ and wrote - a detail or theory doesn't have to fit perfectly, but it can help us weed out some of the more inane ones.

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Awesome first post, Guest1337. I'm in agreement, here. Gotta be able to mash and mold story elements around if you don't want to be rehashing the same old junk!

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 		I just had a little thought on Tim/ToTheArk, but this may have been mentioned before already.

Tim is suffering from a form of split personality disorder only one of those personalities is not created by something in his mind but through outside influence (Slender man?).
Those pills are there to suppress it, he got them first while filming Marble Hornets as symptoms of SPD first occurred, though at that state in a still mild form. But it did happen that he did things he doesn't remember which account for some of the strange things that already happened during filming.

When Jay started posting the videos some SPD symptoms surfaced again, he doesn't remember responding to them as TTA since that was an alternate personality, however he didn't appear as the masked man until after entry 16, after Jay took away the bottle of pills.

But then why did Masky even store those pills and why was there a stash of them in that abandoned house?
The reason is Masky NEEDS to be Tim from time to time (his mind can't stay in "split" mode for too long), either that or Time grew somewhat dependent on them, that may explain his seizure when he attacked Jay.
Another thought on that is Slender Man can maybe only influence Tim when he's Masky and Masky knows that and doesn't like it but is powerless against it, that's why he MUST be Tim to have some control.

Usually he'd take a pill from the stash hidden in the house, make his way to Tims place and then wait until they kick in and he's back to normal, but now he couldn't. If he'd just taken a pill from Tims normal stash he'd notice they're gone much faster making him suspicious of what's going on.
And with the previous theory it's important that Tim remains oblivious of what's going on, otherwise Slender Man would go after him again.


It's quite complicated and I bet quite of it doesn't make much sense but this is something that could fit into the Tim-ToTheArk-Pills-Masky theory.

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Daniel Kay wrote:
I GOT DEEZ PILLZ theory


Y'know, that's not a bad idea. I hadn't thought of Tim having SPD before, but it would make sense. He began acting strange during the filming of MH, and he was taking those pills.
I always thought it was an anti-seizure medication. But SPD would certainly explain more.

On another token though, I've felt like there was something slightly sinister (or at least kinda 'off') about Tim since entry #9. The weird "S" symbol on his shirt matches the symbol shown in one of TTA's videos, and at one point after mentioning Alex spending all of his money on tapes, he seems to turn and wink at the camera (though a lot of people think he's just blinking, which could very well be true).
That entry SEEMED to occur before anything odd was happening with the rest of the cast.

I swear there's gotta be more to that entry (and the plot/script of Alex's movie) than we've figured out thus far.

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