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squidbutt
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Dray wrote:

Makes me wonder, with all of the doll imagery (the Slenderdoll, the mask, the wooden mannequin ) paired with the way that Jay acts, if he's sort of the puppet or the doll in some fashion. Would make sense in how his reactions are so understated.


Wow. It's brainfuckery just to think about it. That would make a lot of sense, though. Goes along with the mind-control theory, and it'd explain why Jay's always forgetting important things.
TTA has told us that Jay's an unreliable narrator from the start. Is it because there's a side of him that he's/we're completely unaware of?

Maybe he's been unwittingly helping SM the entire time. That'd certainly make for an interesting endgame.

Ohno, I'm going insane waiting for answers. ;_;

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squidbutt wrote:
Dray wrote:

Makes me wonder, with all of the doll imagery (the Slenderdoll, the mask, the wooden mannequin ) paired with the way that Jay acts, if he's sort of the puppet or the doll in some fashion. Would make sense in how his reactions are so understated.


Wow. It's brainfuckery just to think about it. That would make a lot of sense, though. Goes along with the mind-control theory, and it'd explain why Jay's always forgetting important things.
TTA has told us that Jay's an unreliable narrator from the start. Is it because there's a side of him that he's/we're completely unaware of?

Maybe he's been unwittingly helping SM the entire time. That'd certainly make for an interesting endgame.

Ohno, I'm going insane waiting for answers. ;_;


Iknowright? I'm sure it's just another messed up theory that's not going anywhere, though, so we're probably fine.

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"Even here, even among these hostile presences, the snow was waiting, out of sight, with a voice that said, 'Wait, Paul. Just wait till we are alone together. I will tell you something new. Something cold, something sleepy, something of cease and peace and the long bright curve of space. Banish them. Refuse to speak. Go upstairs to your room. I will be waiting for you. I will tell you a story better than the Snow Ghost. I will surround your bed, pile a deep drift against the door, so that none will ever again be able to enter.'"

How the fuck has no one said much about this before? This reveals ALOT about the storyline, and the fate of Jay. Something "waiting", something that will "surround" you? This obviously referencing to Slenderman. The commanding voice in this is a demonstration of Slenderman's power, it's saying "Jay, when you are alone, I will get you. I am everywhere, and no one can help you once you are in my grasp."

Curiously, after Jay had his encounter with Slenderman in #23, he holes himself up, as if to shut out the world, just like in the above quote. And now, even after being issued a warning from TTA, he ignores it, and stays shut in his room. After his account is hacked, the most he does is think about possibly leaving. In my opinion, this is Jay refusing to speak. Jay is fucked. Straight up fucked. He is in the grasp of Slenderman, and trapped.

For me, this almost verifies that TTA is a friend. He warned Jay by giving him this video, but Jay did not listen. When Jay shut himself in his house, he tried to scare Jay out with Warning, and still, Jay ignored him. TTA was worried that Jay might be gone to Slenderman, and did something drastic to try to wake Jay up and make him use what free will he has left: Hacked his account, and posted Entry #####. The point of the video was almost to make Jay realize his own house was not a safe place. At this point, I just hope Jay snaps out of it and listens. This almost seems like endgame folks, if Jay can't escape Slendy's grasp.

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XD We should coordinate a massive outpouring of "GET THE FUCK OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, JAY!" though I doubt that that'd help, much.

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cowcow wrote:
"Even here, even among these hostile presences, the snow was waiting, out of sight, with a voice that said, 'Wait, Paul. Just wait till we are alone together. I will tell you something new. Something cold, something sleepy, something of cease and peace and the long bright curve of space. Banish them. Refuse to speak. Go upstairs to your room. I will be waiting for you. I will tell you a story better than the Snow Ghost. I will surround your bed, pile a deep drift against the door, so that none will ever again be able to enter.'"

How the fuck has no one said much about this before? This reveals ALOT about the storyline, and the fate of Jay. Something "waiting", something that will "surround" you? This obviously referencing to Slenderman. The commanding voice in this is a demonstration of Slenderman's power, it's saying "Jay, when you are alone, I will get you. I am everywhere, and no one can help you once you are in my grasp."

Curiously, after Jay had his encounter with Slenderman in #23, he holes himself up, as if to shut out the world, just like in the above quote. And now, even after being issued a warning from TTA, he ignores it, and stays shut in his room. After his account is hacked, the most he does is think about possibly leaving. In my opinion, this is Jay refusing to speak. Jay is fucked. Straight up fucked. He is in the grasp of Slenderman, and trapped.

For me, this almost verifies that TTA is a friend. He warned Jay by giving him this video, but Jay did not listen. When Jay shut himself in his house, he tried to scare Jay out with Warning, and still, Jay ignored him. TTA was worried that Jay might be gone to Slenderman, and did something drastic to try to wake Jay up and make him use what free will he has left: Hacked his account, and posted Entry #####. The point of the video was almost to make Jay realize his own house was not a safe place. At this point, I just hope Jay snaps out of it and listens. This almost seems like endgame folks, if Jay can't escape Slendy's grasp.


QFT for serious.

However: People have been crying "endgame!" at least since Entry 23. So god knows, though every entry brings us closer it's hard to tell how much longer this will go!

Good call on this being a possible piece of evidence for TTA being on Jay's side. I like to think he is, in any case, or that at the very least he doesn't want Jay dead. If he did, well, Jay'd be dead like three times over already.

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JKatkina wrote:
cowcow wrote:
"Even here, even among these hostile presences, the snow was waiting, out of sight, with a voice that said, 'Wait, Paul. Just wait till we are alone together. I will tell you something new. Something cold, something sleepy, something of cease and peace and the long bright curve of space. Banish them. Refuse to speak. Go upstairs to your room. I will be waiting for you. I will tell you a story better than the Snow Ghost. I will surround your bed, pile a deep drift against the door, so that none will ever again be able to enter.'"

How the fuck has no one said much about this before? This reveals ALOT about the storyline, and the fate of Jay. Something "waiting", something that will "surround" you? This obviously referencing to Slenderman. The commanding voice in this is a demonstration of Slenderman's power, it's saying "Jay, when you are alone, I will get you. I am everywhere, and no one can help you once you are in my grasp."

Curiously, after Jay had his encounter with Slenderman in #23, he holes himself up, as if to shut out the world, just like in the above quote. And now, even after being issued a warning from TTA, he ignores it, and stays shut in his room. After his account is hacked, the most he does is think about possibly leaving. In my opinion, this is Jay refusing to speak. Jay is fucked. Straight up fucked. He is in the grasp of Slenderman, and trapped.

For me, this almost verifies that TTA is a friend. He warned Jay by giving him this video, but Jay did not listen. When Jay shut himself in his house, he tried to scare Jay out with Warning, and still, Jay ignored him. TTA was worried that Jay might be gone to Slenderman, and did something drastic to try to wake Jay up and make him use what free will he has left: Hacked his account, and posted Entry #####. The point of the video was almost to make Jay realize his own house was not a safe place. At this point, I just hope Jay snaps out of it and listens. This almost seems like endgame folks, if Jay can't escape Slendy's grasp.


QFT for serious.

However: People have been crying "endgame!" at least since Entry 23. So god knows, though every entry brings us closer it's hard to tell how much longer this will go!

Good call on this being a possible piece of evidence for TTA being on Jay's side. I like to think he is, in any case, or that at the very least he doesn't want Jay dead. If he did, well, Jay'd be dead like three times over already.


On the other hand, TTA sounds like he could not want Jay dead yet. His tone has always seemed like 'don't care what happens to you once I'm done with you, just so long as you help me get what I need.'

Surprised

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Dray wrote:
XD We should coordinate a massive outpouring of "GET THE FUCK OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, JAY!" though I doubt that that'd help, much.


or we could just coordinate a massive outpouring of "PLEASE DO JUST ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU ARE QUICKLY BECOMING THE MOST COMPLACENT HUMAN ON THE PLANET AND IT IS DRIVING US INSANE!"

I mean, seriously, I'd be happy if I just saw Jay doing his damn dishes at this point.

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hellozombie wrote:
Dray wrote:
XD We should coordinate a massive outpouring of "GET THE FUCK OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, JAY!" though I doubt that that'd help, much.


or we could just coordinate a massive outpouring of "PLEASE DO JUST ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU ARE QUICKLY BECOMING THE MOST COMPLACENT HUMAN ON THE PLANET AND IT IS DRIVING US INSANE!"

I mean, seriously, I'd be happy if I just saw Jay doing his damn dishes at this point.

lolwut

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One of the pitfalls of the whole "There must be more clues!" mentality is that clues - context = random information. Practically every frame of every last Entry and TTA video has been pored over, dissected and correlated with a speed that would make a supercomputer envious. It is very difficult now to find any new information (unless, of course, the creators expect us to suss out things like what wattage those flickering flourescent lights run at), so we're left retreading old ground hoping to find new, as-yet-undiscovered connections. Until we're fed more breadcrumbs, it's the best we've got.

However, speaking of new connections, there are two things I realized recently.

- Listening to several of the Entries, you'll notice what I've termed Slender Man's trademark sound- a soft hollow rapping noise that seems sourceless (it isn't from the camera, as A) it shows up on both Alex's and J's recordings and B) it is present at times where the camera isn't moving) and random. Watching Entry 16, you begin hearing it almost from the beginning (though it can be hard to pick up, given the sound of J moving, knocking on the door, etc.), as well as Entry 23, even when J is in the "basement". However, I'm starting to wonder if there is some sort of pattern to these noises. In 23, it comes as either two or three taps in fairly quick succession (and seems to alternate between the two, though J's noises, the occasional distortion, etc. make it very hard to keep track). However, Entry 21 seems to have a single continuous pattern, a "tap, tap-tap" rhythm that repeats itself fairly regularly- in fact, every 8 or 9 seconds. 17 seems to have the same rhythm and pacing, but with the loud voices it can be hard to tell. I'm going to run through the rest of the videos either later tonight or tomorrow to see if there's some kind of pattern to it.

- Dammit, I had a second point to go here, but I got so caught up in working out the tapping sounds that I forgot about it. This space reserved for future brain mumblings.

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cowcow wrote:
"Even here, even among these hostile presences, the snow was waiting, out of sight, with a voice that said, 'Wait, Paul. Just wait till we are alone together. I will tell you something new. Something cold, something sleepy, something of cease and peace and the long bright curve of space. Banish them. Refuse to speak. Go upstairs to your room. I will be waiting for you. I will tell you a story better than the Snow Ghost. I will surround your bed, pile a deep drift against the door, so that none will ever again be able to enter.'"

How the fuck has no one said much about this before? This reveals ALOT about the storyline, and the fate of Jay. Something "waiting", something that will "surround" you? This obviously referencing to Slenderman. The commanding voice in this is a demonstration of Slenderman's power, it's saying "Jay, when you are alone, I will get you. I am everywhere, and no one can help you once you are in my grasp."

Curiously, after Jay had his encounter with Slenderman in #23, he holes himself up, as if to shut out the world, just like in the above quote. And now, even after being issued a warning from TTA, he ignores it, and stays shut in his room. After his account is hacked, the most he does is think about possibly leaving. In my opinion, this is Jay refusing to speak. Jay is fucked. Straight up fucked. He is in the grasp of Slenderman, and trapped.

For me, this almost verifies that TTA is a friend. He warned Jay by giving him this video, but Jay did not listen. When Jay shut himself in his house, he tried to scare Jay out with Warning, and still, Jay ignored him. TTA was worried that Jay might be gone to Slenderman, and did something drastic to try to wake Jay up and make him use what free will he has left: Hacked his account, and posted Entry #####. The point of the video was almost to make Jay realize his own house was not a safe place. At this point, I just hope Jay snaps out of it and listens. This almost seems like endgame folks, if Jay can't escape Slendy's grasp.

Because I don't think it was the actual dialogue we were supposed to be paying attention to but the story.
Paul becomes increasingly withdrawn and callous in everyday interaction, spending every second he could alone, fascinated with magical snow only he could see.
At the very end he decides everyone else is impeding his time with the snow, so he chases them away, locks himself in his room, and it finally snows inside.

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In enry 16 there seems to be some sort of device near the word bone?

It does seem like something alex would do when crazy but maybe is meant to be something and it just looks like that because of low budget?

Also when Jay has his coof coof ness of doom in entry 16 there is a pretty clear hello.

Yet again I wasn't here for entry 16 discussion, so please feel free to ignore me if I am beating around a dead, disected, and speed up horse.

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Man, if you get some communication that we can understand out of that tapping, I will be incredibly impressed! Best of luck! O_O (We already know that they employ morse code... wonder if that's in any of 'em? Or maybe the tapping spells something out over the course of several videos, like it's VERY VERY SLOW?)

Burrito, why not read through the thread for #16 to see if things have been mentioned? It's not like it's going anywhere! Wink

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Dray wrote:
Man, if you get some communication that we can understand out of that tapping, I will be incredibly impressed! Best of luck! O_O (We already know that they employ morse code... wonder if that's in any of 'em? Or maybe the tapping spells something out over the course of several videos, like it's VERY VERY SLOW?)

Burrito, why not read through the thread for #16 to see if things have been mentioned? It's not like it's going anywhere! Wink


Been thore, done that.

Apparently they spotted a frame of TTA, and everyone went and thought that was it for the entry.

Now I am sure of the hello, listened to it enough times, it's a hello.

Any importance this may have with what we thought was a distortioned hello in entry 23?

I'll stop here before I speculate like a madman.

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Aerokinetic wrote:
hellozombie wrote:
I mean, seriously, I'd be happy if I just saw Jay doing his damn dishes at this point.

lolwut


Dude, did you see the pile of dishes in his sink in Entry 24?
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