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Aja Aeris
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Mithost wrote:
High five Aja Aeris, doing all the stuff everyone else is too tired/lazy to do.

Though I did make you this: Brownie


No prob; I've got most of the important screen shots already logged in my encyclopedia-in-process. Also, someone mentioned earlier that Jay's room was on the first floor. Can anyone confirm this? Other than the obvious difficulty Masky would have hanging around outside the window, that is...although this too could be easily accomplished, if there's a tree nearby.

Hmm, trees again. Curious coincidence.

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Conja0 wrote:
Deimos wrote:
this actually reminds me quite a bit of the original slendypost which read :

SA wrote:

One of two recovered photographs from the Stirling City Library blaze. Notable for being taken the day which fourteen children vanished and for what is referred to as "The Slender Man". Deformities cited as film defects by officials. Fire at library occurred one week later.

There are plenty of things back in that thread that this could have been based on. So much to think about *brain hurt*

~Luci


true but i mention this one specifically cos its the original and it refers to slenderman burning a building that holds evidence of him

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Aja Aeris wrote:

No prob; I've got most of the important screen shots already logged in my encyclopedia-in-process. Also, someone mentioned earlier that Jay's room was on the first floor. Can anyone confirm this? Other than the obvious difficulty Masky would have hanging around outside the window, that is...although this too could be easily accomplished, if there's a tree nearby.

Hmm, trees again. Curious coincidence.

I am LOOVING you xP

I can't remember anywhere CONFIRMING Jay's room to be on the first floor. Some one PLEASE prove me wrong and we'll be a step closer x3

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 		Also I like how the news reporter says that a segment of the film was from a home video shot by a resident. ...The segment at 1:09.

Honestly it just had me doing Google-fu a second ago, wondering if they didn't happen across a local apartment building on fire, track it down in time, and film it, in time to give the video to the news for them to air live with the fire still burning...lol then I realized how ridiculous that was and stopped. I think it's too late for me to be up.

Anyways I thought it was a nice touch, and I applaud their efforts.

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Mithost wrote:
Also I like how the news reporter says that a segment of the film was from a home video shot by a resident. ...The segment at 1:09.

Honestly it just had me doing Google-fu a second ago, wondering if they didn't happen across a local apartment building on fire, track it down in time, and film it, in time to give the video to the news for them to air live with the fire still burning...lol then I realized how ridiculous that was and stopped. I think it's too late for me to be up.

Anyways I thought it was a nice touch, and I applaud their efforts.

Ehehe, I loved it too.
I really hope that they did what you described.
That just makes me appreciate what they do so much more.
All for us ^^

On a side-note. Any clues where the house could be?? xP
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I can't remember anywhere CONFIRMING Jay's room to be on the first floor. Some one PLEASE prove me wrong and we'll be a step closer x3

~Luci


I believe it was his room/ home. Towards the end of the video, the reporter says "...fire officials believe that this building is going to be a total loss. There were 12 apartments in this building..."

The ending caption states it was Jay's apartment.

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 		The VERIFIED "Forest fire"
Mithost wrote:
GnomonRose wrote:
but is it clearly a forest fire?


Yes. It's definitely a forest. Green leafy things all over. I think you call them trees.


All right, I can accept that. Sorry for my faux pas! I was in too much of a hurry to verify that, but I still think that it can be indicative of the team's idea of the script becoming real. . .they couldn't make a real forest fire happen, but lo and behold some good news footage of an apartment fire, so. . .plugged it in.

Thanks for verifying that.
And thank you, Aja Aeris, for the screen shot!

PS. Not JUST a forest fire, after all: a forest fire NEXT TO A RIVER. . .

Err...I cannot verify this now, so I respectfully ask those with better memories than mine: As I recall that this is one of Brian's pictures and that Alex sarcastically indicated that Brian had excellent taste (or words to that effect), I am wondering whether there's indication that a forest fire was part of the MH story, or just shown in an unrelated painting. . . *ashamed to ask*
If the painting was unrelated, it still may be significant to the series, but not actually part of the SCRIPT coming true.
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Pactin wrote:
Conja0 wrote:


I can't remember anywhere CONFIRMING Jay's room to be on the first floor. Some one PLEASE prove me wrong and we'll be a step closer x3

~Luci


I believe it was his room/ home. Towards the end of the video, the reporter says "...fire officials believe that this building is going to be a total loss. There were 12 apartments in this building..."

The ending caption states it was Jay's apartment.


The point of this was a contradiction, not whether or not it was Jay's apartment that burned down. There is no question of that within the context of the story. Most people think that it has been previously mentioned that Jay's apartment was lower than the third floor. So we're just trying to see if anyone can confirm/deny this. It's not really relevant to the plot, just a potential hole they might have looked over.


Also, regarding the picture, it only shows up in like two episodes, once when Alex, Tim, and Jay are there (I forgot if there was someone holding the camera, but it was definitely not Brian. Brian was gone by now.), and once when Jay goes back to the house to find it in ruins. Nothing about the script is ever connected with fire or the painting. Alex has been moving the painting off the wall because it makes him uneasy. Not sure why Jay asks him to put it back, maybe the wall looks too blank to shoot a film, but Alex does put it back, and comments sarcastically on Brian's taste in art at the same time.

So really the connection I've drawn (lol pun) in the past with the painting is that Alex has come to associate the forest, fire, or both with Slendy (note that this is BEFORE Alex completely loses his shit), and it freaks the hell out of him. Also I think it's mentioned that Alex lives in the middle of nowhere, in the interview with Tim. Can't remember if he says anything about woods, but this would definitely help explain. I can't remember seeing any woods in the videos of Alex's house, but I believe it was too dark to be able to tell, and memory (mine especially) is faulty.

As for the script coming true bits, we really don't know enough about the script to be able to determine that one way or the other. I feel like if it were the case, we would still be getting more information about the story, which we haven't for a while. That's not to discount it, that's just my two cents.

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 		Hey, I've been following Marble Hornets for a while... but this is my first post since finding Unfiction.


I'm not sure if this is completely right, but I had read somewhere that Slenderman shows himself before bad things happen, (much like the mothman if you are interested in cryptozoology). So, there is the chance that Slenderman or even Masky started the fire...

... But I'm more apt to believe the fact that the fire happened because Slenderman has been around Jay's apartment area.

Also, great catch on the painting. I'm still working on decoding the "Deluge" video (which I'm sure many are doing), and I'll try to keep updated if I find out anything.

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 		The mythos of Slenderman involves *making* bad things happen. Specifically, people disappearing, and buildings burning down. There's like a 98% chance that it was Slendy who caused the fire.


Also, I love the mask/scar idea. I had suggested to a friend that the masks may be because parts of their face are missing because Slendy, well, took them or something, but I also like this idea.

On a related note...all that coughing...maybe Slendysmoke has an effect on the lungs after long-term exposure? Lots of heat can make one cold, as well, hence the jackets.

Just throwing spaghetti at the wall, seeing what sticks.

BRAINSTORMING!

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Mithost wrote:
The mythos of Slenderman involves *making* bad things happen. Specifically, people disappearing, and buildings burning down. There's like a 98% chance that it was Slendy who caused the fire.

I still wouldn't be sure that Slendy caused it. What reason would he have to go back into the building if he caused the fire? Granted, we don't really know his intentions.

I think if you assume Slendy caused it, then you're giving credence to the idea that he's working with TTA/Masky. It wouldn't be coincidental then if TTA warned "we" are coming for you then Slendy goes trying to set Jay on fire.

I think it's unlikely that Slendy's working with anyone, because I just don't get the feeling that Slendy's and Masky's intentions are the same. Also, the whole him going back into the building thing just doesn't make sense to me.

I posted this theory in the Entry 25 thread last night on Masky and Slendy's involvement and for now it's my most reasonable theory:

Fiasco wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and jump on the "who dun it" speculation bandwagon for a second.

I don't think it's Alex, because I believe he's distanced himself enough to not be involved and he hasn't done anything recently to indicate he'd be a malcontent that Masky has. I really feel the only supporting evidence for Alex would be that he mentioned wanting to burn the tapes earlier, but nothing indicates that he would do so now.

As for Slendy. We've seen him creeping at people's windows, we've seen him stalking you in the forest, we've seen him waiting diligently for your arrival. What we've never seen is him busting through a door like there was no tomorrow. If that was him in the video, I get the feeling he did not cause the fire and that he was ****ing pissed about it (seriously, look at him slam that door down, jesus christ).

Slendy showed no indication before this that he'd start the fire. Masky/TTA have. TTA's clearly stated he'd be coming for Jay.

There's something about Slendy tearing that door down... I feel like it's an indication he can't teleport wherever he wants to and perhaps hasn't been able to stalk Jay since he's kept himself cooped up in his room/moved out. That or his teleportation is electricity based like we've speculated and he hasn't been able to see Jay since he moved out because he hasn't been able to creep or teleport in. Either way, I don't believe that Slendy's known Jay's been gone.

Which leads me to my theory on it: Masky did it (either to try to get Jay or out of anger from finding out Jay no longer resides there) and Slendy was actually checking on Jay's safety when he was entering (assume primitive intelligence in not knowing his body would be removed if her were severely hurt and he wouldn't assume that Jay would leave in such an emergency) because he believed he was still in there. For whatever reason, maybe Slendy is actually concerned for Jay and that it's not Masky protecting Jay from Slendy, but Slendy protecting Jay from Masky.

For me at least, it'd explain that Slendy isn't going after Jay and that's why Masky/TTA is going after him. Outside of the surveillance video, Slendy's never gone towards Jay without Jay seeking him out (going to the house) or Masky going after Jay (#16 or so I think, where Masky's creeping in on Jay, then the Return video, which also indicates that Slendy has no interest in Jay, passing him by for the camera).

Might be completely ridiculous, but Slendy definitely appeared to have some sort of urgency to get into Jay's room that he hasn't shown before.

Also, if Slendy wanted Jay dead, wouldn't he just do his typical Slendy killing? Hell, if that's Slendy viewing the fire from the crowd instead of going in to check then, maybe that means Slendy's vulnerable to it.

I know this is all probably trout, but it's just a theory I thought of to tie together a few things. This video definitely adds a ton of speculation possibilities, but it's still incredibly inconclusive and doesn't really advance the story much.


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Mithost wrote:
Pactin wrote:
Conja0 wrote:


I can't remember anywhere CONFIRMING Jay's room to be on the first floor. Some one PLEASE prove me wrong and we'll be a step closer x3

~Luci


I believe it was his room/ home. Towards the end of the video, the reporter says "...fire officials believe that this building is going to be a total loss. There were 12 apartments in this building..."

The ending caption states it was Jay's apartment.


The point of this was a contradiction, not whether or not it was Jay's apartment that burned down. There is no question of that within the context of the story. Most people think that it has been previously mentioned that Jay's apartment was lower than the third floor. So we're just trying to see if anyone can confirm/deny this. It's not really relevant to the plot, just a potential hole they might have looked over.


The news report said that the fire started on the third floor in a woman's apartment, but later spread through the whole building. They did not mention the apt number in the clip shown, and would probably have avoided doing so in other news footage. J would have no way of knowing if the fire started in his room - therefore, his statement "that was my apartment" really meant "that was my apartment building".

Mithost wrote:
Also, regarding the picture, it only shows up in like two episodes, once when Alex, Tim, and Jay are there (I forgot if there was someone holding the camera, but it was definitely not Brian. Brian was gone by now.), and once when Jay goes back to the house to find it in ruins. Nothing about the script is ever connected with fire or the painting. Alex has been moving the painting off the wall because it makes him uneasy. Not sure why Jay asks him to put it back, maybe the wall looks too blank to shoot a film, but Alex does put it back, and comments sarcastically on Brian's taste in art at the same time.


Now that we're seeing more Slendy-relevance in the theme of fire, why would Brian have that painting? It makes sense if it belonged to Alex, as he was in the thick of it. But Brian? Since we're seeing fire show up later in J's story, it is possible that Brian went through this before (technically, it would have been right before Alex started it). Could be why he's MIA during the filming of MH.

Oh, and the old fireman climbing wall seems more relevant now, too.

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 		I think Fiasco's theory makes a lot of sense, but I don't think Slender Man is trying to protect Jay. Not usually, anyway. It seems like Masky and SM need Jay for different reasons.

After ######, it'd make the most sense for Tim/Masky to start the fire. SM did seem pissed when he ripped off that door, and he'd have no reason to have to rip a door off its hinges to get inside a building that he started a fire in in the first place.

As for the entry being inconclusive and not advancing the story much, I disagree somewhat. I think we can start to make connections between the red tower -> the painting of the fire during entry #20, and maybe even the significance of the dilapidated building. I guess I wouldn't go that far yet, but things are starting to tie together.

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 		http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YebC_rftfyk

This was posted in the thread for the entry, but I thought you folks might want to see it too.

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morscata12 wrote:
Now that we're seeing more Slendy-relevance in the theme of fire, why would Brian have that painting? It makes sense if it belonged to Alex, as he was in the thick of it. But Brian? Since we're seeing fire show up later in J's story, it is possible that Brian went through this before (technically, it would have been right before Alex started it). Could be why he's MIA during the filming of MH.

Oh, and the old fireman climbing wall seems more relevant now, too.


See, it makes more sense to me that it would be anyone BUT Alex's painting, because Alex went all crazy paranoid, and wanted it taken down. I think if Alex had any artwork like that, he would've destroyed it or gotten rid of it.

I also don't think it's a question of WHY he has the painting. People have paintings of things. I have a painting of all the smog over Chicago, and it looks kind of like the city's burning (not my choice in artwork, lol). I think the focus in that scene was primarily on Alex's aversion to it, but that's just my take on it.


Also, regarding the Slendy/fire thing; I should have explained further, sorry. Slendy's presence in the mythos is correlated with fire. That doesn't mean he does it, but in looking at the stories it seems pretty likely. Now, again, the mythos does not necessarily have a bearing on MH. There's no reason to believe that it does. But we do see the correlation with themes of fire in the storyline. If Slendy DID burn the building down (which is something I have to say I believe is the case), I don't really know what his motivation would be. If he even did it intentionally. It could just be one of those Slendythings.

It also makes sense for Masky to have burned it down, if he was trying to protect Jay. He would know that Jay's left town, and would want to just destroy the evidence/tapes/everything associated with it so that Jay wouldn't be able to go back, and then Slendy pops up and he's like 'ohay wats up guise lol ware j go.' I also love the mental image of Arsonist!Masky. Hunched over with a bottle of lighter fluid. D'aww.

Though I do also agree with Fiasco about teams. I've never really been convinced that Slendy and Masky were working together, or had the same intentions. I'm just not positive on the mechanics of everyone's relationship to one another. I think it's highly questionable what Slendy's motivation for not just immediately disappearing everyone would be, or if it's because he can't, what the reason would be for that. Though by nature he seems more of a stalker than anything. Keep in mind that they are most likely elaborating on the mythos and not just taking it straight. While all the people in the photographs did disappear, they did not disappear the second after the photographs were taken. He was just hanging out, chillin' like a villain. So he does stalk to some extent, though we don't really know what that extent actually is.

I also don't think Slendy is a benevolent force. It doesn't really fit in my mind that Slendy would be protecting Jay from Masky, since Masky, as far as we've been able to determine, doesn't really exhibit any signs of superhuman abilities. There has been some interference when he's been nearby, but based on the rest of the videos, I find it more likely that Slendy is also nearby. While it would be an interesting twist for Slendy to be a protective entity, I just don't really buy it.




Also, OHSHIT...okay, the dude messing with the door...fireman. Look at 1:19ish of the new video. There are 2-3 of them. They're firemen. Although that does mean that the whole sequence with the crowd was added in, so Slendy's probably there.

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