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[Slender freak]

[Dray]

SF: You gave me a chuckle with that. XD I can't imagine that ANYone would go to those lengths to make TTA look genuinely insane. They'd have to be insane, themselves.

[Mithost]

Yeah, that. The first clue being that the real news broadcast wasn't even from...wherever they were from. Wasn't it like Alabama or Georgia or something? I don't think it was Michigan, anyway.

Also, <3 Dray. I just came back last night, but I didn't see you around and wondered what you'd gotten up to. Though I also didn't know you'd changed your avatar.

[Geek]

[Droshi]

I am going to be the cynic here, haha.

I don't think there is anything specifically hidden in this footage at ALL, aside from the visual tearing. I think they found various footage of apartment fires and spliced them together to form a news report that would imply that Jay's apartment got burned down. Adding tearing and adding in Slenderman are two completely different ballparks, and with all due respect to Troy and company, I don't think they have the ability to digitally add Slenderman so flawlessly anywhere into the clip, whether it be the now-defunct firefighter or the man in the crowd (which I'm almost positive is a tree or a pole).

People in the crowd would also almost certainly react to Slenderman being among them, he's huge. Even if he made them black out, we'd still see reactions (think Entry #12).

I think we are going way too deep with how we analyze these videos. Just take away what needs to be taken from the video:

Jay's apartment got burned down, and in the amateur footage, we saw visual tearing; which at this point means that Slendy is nearby. That's most likely all there is to it. That's all we NEED to know.

[Mithost]

Watch the videos side by side. The footage that was described as being home video was actually taped over. To me, this is clearly them filming their own bit to insert into the broadcast (the part with the crowd and the tearing), which means that they wouldn't have needed to digitally add Slendy, he just was hanging out there. I think for college students it would be easy enough to get a bunch of people to pose in front of a blue screen pretending to watch a fire while a dude in a weird tall suit stands there. (Seriously, just buy like two wifin's worth of pizza.) Though if that's what they did, they did a damn good job of putting that image on top of the image of the roof being on fire.

[Seraphic Adonis]

[SickSlickMan]

You know, I see everyone talking about is it fake, is it real, is Slender Man in it, yada yada, but um...no one seems to be asking:

WHY DID THEY BURN IT DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

Pardon me for being rude, but I feel like we all got off topic about ten or eleven pages ago. Here's what we need to be asking:

Why burn the apartment? Was it to get rid of evidence, to send a warning, what?

Was it Slender Man or Totheark? I know fires match Slender Man's history, but Totheark seems a more capable suspect, given recent events.

Why did they burn it NOW? They've known where Jay has lived for a while now. Was it because he moved out? Did they figure he wasn't going back? Did they just want to get rid of the tapes (again, as stated, was this Alex's doing)? Or, again, was it just to scare the crap out of him?

Come on, guys, let's mix and match some thoughts here. Yes, it's footage from someone else, and yes, Slender Man/Totheark may or may not have been spliced in. Now that that's been established, can we start thinking about the motives behind it? I feel like no one's discussing that, or if they are, it's lost in all of the debate about whether or not Slender Man's in a column of smoke.

[Dray]

[spaekle]

I'm pretty sure this is TTA's doing; Slendy doesn't seem to care as much about Jay as he did about Alex, and I don't think now would be the time for him to decide to burn Jay's apartment complex down. If burning down buildings is Slendy's thing here, then why is the house still standing?

Assuming it's TTA, the immediate reason was most likely to screw Jay's life up in a non-temporary way while making a strong statement. I'm on the fence as to whether there was a deeper reason than that, though. Sure, he could have wanted to burn the tapes, but why does it really matter that much? I was always under he impression that Alex wanted to burn them just because he didn't want to think about them any more, and it's not like anything will really be fixed by burning the tapes now since they're all over the internet. (I also still don't like the TTA is Alex theory. |:c) I guess if there were any other reason it could be because they figured out that another crazy warp-point had materialized itself in Jay's house and they wanted that gone, but that seems iffy too. Again, why is the house still standing?

[Seraphic Adonis]

@Dray; I hope you've been recovering from your illness/virus/etcetera, then.

I haven't seen Entry #17 in some time, assuming it's the correct one, but I do recall Tim being odd. Of course, people could be reacting to his invisible presence, but we just don't really focus on anyone enough to get reactions.

Now, I believe that this was down by our masked friend in an attempt to give J full proof that "this is no longer a game" - actions speak louder then words and fire is hotter then a threat. Alternatively, he set the building on fire from the women's apartment (?), believing that J was still inside. Unless, of course, Masky could see into J's apartment.

...actually, I've been wondering. J's "warping door" - did we conclude that it was Slendy who did it? Judging from #####, it's possible that it might be a two-way "warping door" and Masky can use it to get into J's apartment, where he started the fire. Of course, that would contradict the news report itself, but it's possible that J packed up and left, and his apartment was rented out to someone else in the mean-time.

[BaronVonCakeman]

[Dray]

[Geek]

To add to Dray's post on the topic of TTA, TTA would probably have known J wasn't in the apartment. After all, he has a youtube account, why wouldn't he be able to check J's Twitter posts?

This also rules out any malevolent intent on his part (at least, not towards J; can't say the same for the other residents of the apartment complex...) , as TTA would have known J wasn't there (assuming TTA was the culprit).

[Dray]

TTA has shown that he doesn't want Jay dead, though I don't think that that's a 'hey, buddy, we're friends!'. I think it's a more of an 'I still have a use for you. Keep breathing.'

On another note, with all of that attention, and the fact that Jay's bailed ship, it seems somewhat likely that he might be thought of as a suspect in character for the arson. I don't know if the guys are considering this, out of character, but if I were an official, and I busted down Jay's door, and I saw the slovenly mess left there and the otherwise abandoned pad, I might start wondering. Jay sounded as though he had left rather immediately after ###### came out. He probably didn't have time to pack things into moving boxes and put 'em into storage. _{(I weep for his pokemanz!)}