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[VIDEO] Entry #25
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Fiasco
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Spritey wrote:
Oh god you guys, how did we miss this


You clearly missed those streaky blue lines that were discussed twenty some odd pages ago, obviously duh.

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SlendoMusic
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 		Fiasco, you're attitude doesn't help with the discussion. You're ruining the atmosphere of the forum. While a lot of the content in you're posts are valid, it would be better for everyone if you said it in a more peaceful and kind manner.

Back on the discusson: What I'm interested in is what Jay plans to do now after having his apartment burnt down. I personally hope he decides to do a little more investigating.

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Dray
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 		If by investigating, you mean investigating a new home in a different state? I don't think that there's any way that he's going back. He stated that he doesn't even want to know why the film crew was having problems (as I'm sure he can probably guess.)

What... what if the purpose of the fire was to draw in a crowd, to get people to film it, while Slendy was around? To draw his attention to random crowd members?

If Slendy doesn't like being caught on camera -- or otherwise, if he seems to get absorbed in people who film him -- then having a whole bunch of people snapping pictures and filming would probably distract him for a good, long while.

Jay has his wiggle room to GTFO and (hopefully) never has to deal with him again.

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Mithost wrote:
Dray wrote:
Are you suggesting that while Tim doesn't want Jay to know that he's Masky, TTA does want him to know?

It seems odd to me that if that's the case, TTA would get such clear footage of Tim putting on his mask with his back to us in ######.

If Tim is Masky is TTA, though, it would be odd that he doesn't want Jay to see his face in #18, when Jay goes to lift his mask, but then includes clues later on. It could be that there's a chronological reason (Masky growing impatient, or playing games, then dropping the pretense of 'wooooh, I'm a myyyystery!' in order to get down to business....)



As far as this goes, I so far like the idea that Tim's face is burned beyond all recognition. I have absolutely no reason to believe this, other than the fact that he's wearing a mask. I just like the idea.

Hate to be a buzzkill but we saw Tim's face in entry 15. It looked very not burned to me.


Yeah but Masky doesn't show up for three episodes after that. We don't see Tim's face after Masky shows up. Just his beautiful sideburns.

Again, I really don't have any reason to believe it, and I'm not trying to push it, I just personally like the idea; I've always liked the idea that the mask has some other significance than just keeping Jay from seeing his face. It's an interesting idea.

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 		It's not just to keep his identity secret, it's also a beauty aid! Very Happy

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C/AMN MERRITT
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 		What I'm wondering is: how could it help anybody to set Jay's apartment on fire?


I mean, he'll now be on the move and it'll be hard to catch him, which is bad for Masky, becuase Jay will now fear for himself more than ever before. And it goes against Slendy's methods in EVERYWAY to just do that.


And P.S: Could it just be random case of arson instead of Slendy or Masky? I don't ever remember Slendy ever wanting to set shit on fire.

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Nakigahara
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I don't ever remember Slendy ever wanting to set shit on fire.

Well, he DID set shit on fire in the original mythos.
Also, there were those details, the bonfire, the painting, Alex's desire to burn the tapes. If I only could put this all together...
But I'm for some reason nearly sure that Slendy did it. May be mistaken, though... just my feeling.

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 		Maybe Masky can track Jay somehow? If he wanted to make Jay feel as though he couldn't stay in one place for long, that'd be a good way of doing it!

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halfricanapo
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Mithost wrote:
TechnoViking wrote:
Mithost wrote:
Dray wrote:
Are you suggesting that while Tim doesn't want Jay to know that he's Masky, TTA does want him to know?

It seems odd to me that if that's the case, TTA would get such clear footage of Tim putting on his mask with his back to us in ######.

If Tim is Masky is TTA, though, it would be odd that he doesn't want Jay to see his face in #18, when Jay goes to lift his mask, but then includes clues later on. It could be that there's a chronological reason (Masky growing impatient, or playing games, then dropping the pretense of 'wooooh, I'm a myyyystery!' in order to get down to business....)



As far as this goes, I so far like the idea that Tim's face is burned beyond all recognition. I have absolutely no reason to believe this, other than the fact that he's wearing a mask. I just like the idea.

Hate to be a buzzkill but we saw Tim's face in entry 15. It looked very not burned to me.


Yeah but Masky doesn't show up for three episodes after that. We don't see Tim's face after Masky shows up. Just his beautiful sideburns.

Again, I really don't have any reason to believe it, and I'm not trying to push it, I just personally like the idea; I've always liked the idea that the mask has some other significance than just keeping Jay from seeing his face. It's an interesting idea.


Something I've been tossing around in my head is that Masky(s) are trying to help Jay avoid slenderman. If this is the case, I think the mask somehow hides the person behind it from slenderman. Whoever is wearing the mask can't been seen by him, which is why in the video (i honestly don't remember which one) where jay is cowering in a corner with his face painted similar to the mask, slenderman walks past him as if he doesn't notice he's there.

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Mithost
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halfricanapo wrote:
Something I've been tossing around in my head is that Masky(s) are trying to help Jay avoid slenderman. If this is the case, I think the mask somehow hides the person behind it from slenderman. Whoever is wearing the mask can't been seen by him, which is why in the video (i honestly don't remember which one) where jay is cowering in a corner with his face painted similar to the mask, slenderman walks past him as if he doesn't notice he's there.


Yeah, I had a very long conversation with a friend of mine about just this. I posted it somewhere, I can't remember what thread (probably game discussion, maybe around the 90s), but it didn't seem to gain much ground, or it just kind of died or something. I personally love mask conjecture, and I've had a bunch of theories about them, but people largely seem less interested in that part of the story than in more immediate or important things. Which is totally understandable.

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Seraphic Adonis
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 		That would be Return.

I did have a theory that the idea of the mask was to mock Slendy; it accentuates the eyes (as did J's mascara paint). Now, if you look at another human face, the most notable feature is typically the eyes; it's quite possible that Masky wears the mask to mock Slendy's lack of a face.

Another question regarding Masky; what happened to the mask after #23? Did our faceless friend not leave his mask hanging 'pon the door, where J took it? Of course, it could be quite simple to produce a second mask, or he could have retrieved it after J left.

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CatasTrope
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halfricanapo wrote:
Something I've been tossing around in my head is that Masky(s) are trying to help Jay avoid slenderman. If this is the case, I think the mask somehow hides the person behind it from slenderman. Whoever is wearing the mask can't been seen by him, which is why in the video (i honestly don't remember which one) where jay is cowering in a corner with his face painted similar to the mask, slenderman walks past him as if he doesn't notice he's there.


Thats an interesting idea but for me it just dosent quite ring true. Why would Masky attack Jay if all he wants to help him avoid slenderman? If indeed the mask/facepein is a method for avoiding SM then wouldnt it just make more sense to TELL Jay that?

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Mithost
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CatasTrope wrote:
Thats an interesting idea but for me it just dosent quite ring true. Why would Masky attack Jay if all he wants to help him avoid slenderman? If indeed the mask/facepein is a method for avoiding SM then wouldnt it just make more sense to TELL Jay that?


I get the feeling that in the case of Slenderman, the less one knows, the better. Nobody so far has been forthright with information about him. The theory that Masky wants to help Jay avoid Slendy is a prevalent one, and him attacking Jay could be for a few reasons, which are all pretty logical. He could be pissed at Jay for invading his house, stealing his pills, or whatever. He could be trying to scare Jay off, like with Warning. Or he could have not been able to tell who Jay was, and just saw an intruder shining a light at him. Whether you believe that Masky is for Jay and against Slendy, or with Slendy and against Jay...well, both theories have their points.

Seraphic Adonis wrote:
Another question regarding Masky; what happened to the mask after #23? Did our faceless friend not leave his mask hanging 'pon the door, where J took it? Of course, it could be quite simple to produce a second mask, or he could have retrieved it after J left.


This is something that's also been questioned. Some people think it was Masky taunting Jay. Some people think it was Masky trying to give one to Jay, whether so that he could protect himself, or as a sign of friendship. Quite a few people think that there's more than one Masky running around.

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 		i think TTA may want jay dead because in TTA's last video, warning, he told jay to stay home and be alone. A couple days later, jay's house was destroyed in a fire. TTA may want jay dead because he can lead slenderman or masky to TTA. thats all i gotz Smile

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Seraphic Adonis
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jimay94 wrote:
i think TTA may want jay dead because in TTA's last video, warning, he told jay to stay home and be alone. A couple days later, jay's house was destroyed in a fire. TTA may want jay dead because he can lead slenderman or masky to TTA. thats all i gotz Smile

"A couple of days?"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was it not closer to a month? Secondly, it is generally taken that "STAY HOME" and "BE ALONE" were mocking threats, not advice - what J did was exactly that; cooped himself up in his house, alone. What happened? Firstly, Entry #24 happened - J went through a door that should have gone to a different room, but he never came out the other side. Was this a "warp door?" Was footage being looped into his camera system to distract him?

J did nothing about this, being the apathetic bugger he is. Then, Masky/TTA decided to hit J with the metaphorical club - Entry #####. If Masky/TTA wanted to kill J, they would simply have burnt the house down, since ##### is what convinced J that staying home, being alone was a bad idea. Not posting it would have resulted in J's death, since Masky has shown that he is roughly on par with J, physically speaking. All Masky would have to do is have a means of causing a fire, getting it into J's apartment and causing the fire; if J did notice and try to stop him, he would keep J incapacitated long enough to allow the fire to become too ferocious to stop and immediately flee.

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This is something that's also been questioned. Some people think it was Masky taunting Jay. Some people think it was Masky trying to give one to Jay, whether so that he could protect himself, or as a sign of friendship. Quite a few people think that there's more than one Masky running around.

I actually meant "why does the figure in ##### have the mask."

Judging by ##### and #25, Masky isn't a good friend. The "multiple Maskies" theory doesn't have that much going for it (to my knowledge, the presence of the sideburns of JUSTICE! is consistent, indicating that it's Tim), as well as Occam's Razor against it. Personally, I believe it is either a) a budding Chekhov's Gun, or b) something of a warning, as J ran into Slender Man shortly after. Or, at least a "be careful."

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