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[Trailhead] Wonderland or Bust
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NeonRaine
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Thenre, you are awesome. I'm not very good at emailing people, especially fictional people (how long does the newbie excuse hold water?), as you've all probably discovered by now. But the fact that he mentioned me actually scared me a little bit. The sad thing is my degree is in Japanese and I've studied the religion so I'll try emailing him again like the rational adult I can be.

Anywho, I've received word form David
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I'm glad to hear from you.
The family I was staying with is dead. Right now, I'm staying with a friend in Zack's hometown, working at a cafe here. When Zack comes back from Japan, he's going to help me.

I've been locked out of the blog, unfortunately.

David


He also said that he hasn't had any dreams lately, but any update from the blog hence forth will not be from David.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:25 pm
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Thenre
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New Blog post:

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Those who walk in darkness wander aimlessly.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:03 pm
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NeonRaine
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Just got out of the chat with Zack, he and David are together and safe. And here are the important bits:

Aokigahara is changing, it's on volcanic ground so the land is full of gaps and caves etc, and apparently these gaps and the darkness is increasing.

Reiko gave Zack the twitter name 1st Alice. He seems to think that she intended on introducing Zack to Adrian and him becoming the first alice.

Naomi Watanabe was the woman Gavin was staying with initially. Until she had a psychological breakdown. Zack doesn't know what caused this breakdown. And she got in touch with him via a letter.

And about the blog quote, I did do a google search to no avail, but Zack discovered in the title 'yami no matsuei' which translates to 'descendants of darkness'.

Which is a manga
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descendants_of_Darkness
I'm not sure how significant that is, but Zack did akin Adrian to the character Muraki. I've read the manga before and it does deal with death gods and the like, so it may be relevant?

I'm going to try emailing the quote to Adrian and seeing what happens.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:19 pm
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Rhalandria
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Been following along and had a thought.

What if 2nd Alice is definitely Zack?

He's a part of the Wonderland game and in the Alice Human Sacrifice vid it states that he spread out many notes - what if notes are the clues and messages that Zack has been giving us?

Another line in the song - He created a mad world - maybe this means how he's managed to get all of us involved?

The lyric "This Alice was a rose" and it flashes with his pretty face - Zack is one of those pretty type of guys, plus one of the FB groups he belongs to is: I hate when people think that Visual Kei/Jrockers are girls when theyre not.

Although I'm not certain what madman would shoot him down, but could be a clue that he might die soon? Wonder who the madman is though Sad

Oh and after NeonRaine's convo with Zack, I'm leaning towards Naomi Watanabe being Alice #3. What do you think? Lyrics state Alice #3 was possessed by her warped dream - while Naomi had a psychological breakdown which kinda fits.

Thoughts anyone?
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Rhalandria
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I emailed David to touch base asking how he is and about the family that was murdered - his response:

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I think the only reason the family would be attacked was because of me. Right now, I'm staying with friends, and Zack is here with me. As for the deaths, it was labeled as a botched robbery because the house was a mess and they were shot.

Thanks for your concern and support.

David



Ok wanted to edit this in what I've done - I'm only a basic Japanese reader, so Neon or someone might wanna take a look and see if you can get a better translation of this. I took the blog entry that was encrypted with Japanese and cleared it out some and this is what I have now:

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4 番目 の アリスツイン ズハートは、さ不思議に、彼類には、ドア を作るビッグシスター、厳しいです弟、インテリジェント. 彼らは、最初にアリスには、近くにい. たしかし彼らの夢は まだ目覚めていない


Now google translate gives me this:

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Alice twin Zuhato fourth, a strange kind. He is an intelligent brother. Big Sister is making the door difficult. They are not close to the first Alice. Remains uncertain and their dreams still sleeping



Anyone else get this translation? Kinda makes sense but maybe someone else can clean it up a bit, someone who knows more Japanese Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:14 pm
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floodgateopen
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Just saying I'm here... mostly lurking, following Zack's twitter and facebook and I'll check in here at least in future Smile
I'm involved in another ARG atm, but it will be interesting to see how far Wonderland goes!

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Thenre
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Rhalandria wrote:
I emailed David to touch base asking how he is and about the family that was murdered - his response:

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I think the only reason the family would be attacked was because of me. Right now, I'm staying with friends, and Zack is here with me. As for the deaths, it was labeled as a botched robbery because the house was a mess and they were shot.

Thanks for your concern and support.

David



Ok wanted to edit this in what I've done - I'm only a basic Japanese reader, so Neon or someone might wanna take a look and see if you can get a better translation of this. I took the blog entry that was encrypted with Japanese and cleared it out some and this is what I have now:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
4 番目 の アリスツイン ズハートは、さ不思議に、彼類には、ドア を作るビッグシスター、厳しいです弟、インテリジェント. 彼らは、最初にアリスには、近くにい. たしかし彼らの夢は まだ目覚めていない


Now google translate gives me this:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Alice twin Zuhato fourth, a strange kind. He is an intelligent brother. Big Sister is making the door difficult. They are not close to the first Alice. Remains uncertain and their dreams still sleeping



Anyone else get this translation? Kinda makes sense but maybe someone else can clean it up a bit, someone who knows more Japanese Smile


It's the verse from Alice Human Sacrifice talking about the 4th Alice. I already answered that earlier so: Trout xP.

The second Alice was Gavin, who was a singer and killed himself (in the video the second Alice kills himself). Zack is the first Alice because he is trapped in the dream and because he is the one fighting to protect (leaving a red trail).

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Rhalandria
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Ah yea I must have misread your post about it and assumed it was aimed towards something else *sigh* Dunce

Man my brain hasn't been in the game lately lol I didn't realize Gavin was the singer but now that all makes sense lol sorry to backtrack - good thing we're not way deep into it and showing how late my brain is taking on some of this stuff lol Smile

So just forget I stated all that crap before and I'll just stay with my emails to David. I did ask him about the weapon used and if anything was stolen when that family was murdered but he didn't know as its an ongoing investigation. (My brain finally realized that Zack had been working at Zax Cafe) so I asked David if he was working there as well, but he'd quit by the time I asked. He did take the time to tell me how fancy and expensive it was lol Sounds like our boy is getting cabin fever so I asked him how he's managing to pass his time - reading/watching tv. Wonder if he'll respond to that lol


I also emailed Adrian the kami and asked if he knew how to find the other Adrian, as well as what was going on in Aokigahara with the new gaps and caves...this was his response:

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Adrian, I suspect, is trying to find Zack and David. At this point I believe he has given up on being ominous, and is concentrating on his goals.

As for the changes in Aokigahara: The Order's practices have, under Adrian's control, changed from simple Shinto rites and rituals to ones rooted in the occult. While this may have at first been out of boredom or a desire for dramatics, it has lead to foreign entities and powers entering the forest. These are changing the forest's very nature.

But this is a matter that I myself will need to deal with.


Don't know if this is old news or if this lets us know anything, but I thought I'd take the time to email him just in case he had something useful to add to what was going on. Maybe I'm just not asking the right questions Rolling Eyes


Edit for update - received email from David and he said he's keeping busy reading and is really getting into a manga about paranormal investigators from the afterlife - asked him if its the one mentioned to NeonRaine (Descendants of Darkness) or if its another one. He mentioned it sounds "convoluted but its actually quite interesting". I think its the same manga - if Zack is mentioning it and David is reading it - could there be something in it that we need?
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Your eyes may have changed shade, but it cannot color the soul behind them. We have come together in this life, this time. Only to meet in passing.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:15 am
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NeonRaine
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Hello all, just popping in during my essay break to update you all with some very interesting emails. The first one I received was from Adrian the kami:

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More importantly, I found something of a sensitive nature. In the file cabinet kept by Adrian, there was a letter you may need to show your compatriots helping you. I will copy it here:

Zack,

By the time you read this, I'll have left Japan. I can't stand living here under Adrian's control. I feel like I'm being driven insane.

I'm sorry I didn't wait for you. If I had, I might never have made it out of here alive, or at least with my mind in one piece. If there is any chance of it happening, maybe you could come over here to the US? Then we wouldn't have to deal with psychos and cults and forests full of dead bodies. Then I'll know you're safe, too.

Do whatever you can to stay away from Adrian and Reiko. They'll tear you to pieces. Just escape.

All my love,
Gavin




And the second one was from Reiko:

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I'm the one who wrote that quote on David's blog. I can't do this anymore. I need your help. Adrian is a complete monster, and he's becoming more insane by the moment. I never wanted to kill someone. I got caught up in all this, and lost control.

Right now, his cult means nothing to him. Everything that made me follow him is being destroyed. All he wants is to have absolute power over everyone who comes across him. Right now, he wants to kill Zack and David because they defied his control.

Gavin didn't commit suicide. He was murdered by Adrian, because he too defied his control and tried to leave.

I know you guys are trying to stop Adrian, so please help me. He made me kill Emylin. I don't want to kill someone else. Ever since then, I've felt like I'm going mad. I can't sleep, barely eat. Life doesn't seem worth it anymore, but I don't want him to win.

Please believe me. This isn't a trick.

Reiko


I sent the Adrian one to Zack, he doesn't know what to make of it, but now that Reiko has gotten in touch, I'll forward that on to him to Smile. I'm going to email her back, I'm going to treat her with caution though.

I'll share my thoughts and such once I have this silly essay done and dusted!

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Rhalandria
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David's response:

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Yeah, it's Yami No Matusei. NeonRaine has read it? I just found a copy at a local barnes and nobel, and thought it sounded kinda cool.


I emailed him back:

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Yea she's told us all about it - how its about the death gods and that its a paranormal manga Smile Have you found anything interesting in it? She also stated that Zack mentioned Muraki was like Adrian - what do you think?


Might just be pointless emails, but I can't help but email him just to see what he's thinking and doing lol

Edited for *Update*

Just received this email response from David:

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He is in a way, isn't he? Creepy. Hopefully Adrian isn't TOO much like him. Especially with what Muraki did to Hisoka.

Anyway, we're not staying with those friends anymore. Can't tell you where we are right now, but we didn't want them being dragged into this. Zack seems to think that there'll be a direct confrontation soon.

David


If we were to compare the manga to the current people still alive in the game I'd say:
Muraki = Adrian
Tsuzuki = Zack
Hisoka = David

Then again Tsuzuki could be Reiko since she hasn't been sleeping/eating and is going mad...hmmm

But like David said - hope not 'cause Muraki tortures Hisoka Sad I asked him if he was having bad dreams still. Plus I mentioned that I thought they resembled those characters so I'll let y'all know what he says.
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Athosan
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New Blog Post

New blog post - Reiko Asahi is dead.
Rhalandria wrote:

If we were to compare the manga to the current people still alive in the game I'd say:
Muraki = Adrian
Tsuzuki = Zack
Hisoka = David

Then again Tsuzuki could be Reiko since she hasn't been sleeping/eating and is going mad...hmmm

Tsuzuki can't be Reiko, now that she's dead, if you're only considering the current people still alive in the game.

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Rhalandria
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Cool, another blog post and you're right - there goes Reiko, UNLESS she comes back from the dead 'cause in that manga Muraki can bring them back to life Sad

Anyways....looking into map location of Honey Creek State Park is in Oklahoma while the paper is an Moravia, Iowa paper - why would a paper there - a paper for a town the size of about 713 (as of 2000) publish a story based all the way in Oklahoma? Hmmm Plus got this email from David today:

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I haven't had that dream anymore, but I did have a creepy dream last night. I'm wandering around the forest, this time by myself, when I see a figure standing in the distance. Hoping to get directions out, I walk over to him. He turns, and I realize that it's Adrian. We stare at each other for a few second, before I run like hell. He chases me. I almost reach the edge of the woods, when he grabs my arm, and is about to kill me (I don't know how, the dream was kind of vague), when the dream ends.

I've never woken up so quickly in my life.


Emailing him back to let him know about Reiko and where it happened since we have no idea where he and Zack are.

Edit for mistake - there IS a Honey Creek park in Iowa Sad
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Rhalandria
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Ok just received these two messages today -

Zack:

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Thanks for the warning. I guess a confrontation really is going to come sooner than I thought.


This was in response to my email telling him Reiko was dead and where they found her body.

David:

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Did she outlast Adrian's need for her?

I googled Honey Creek Park. Apparently, there's a state park by that name in Iowa as well. I only wish it was the one in Oklahoma. We haven't been able to move very far from MN. Iowa is way too close for comfort.


I had googled Honey Creek but only got Oklahoma but apparently there's one in Moravia, Iowa as well Shocked And as David said - they haven't left MN. I'm emailing him back to see if I can get any more info.
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Rhalandria
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Just got an email from David:

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But we've got bigger fish to fry: Zack is gone. I'm afraid he might've gone looking for Adrian with some kind of revenge scheme. I'm stuck here in our hiding spot, unable do do much of anything.


Emailing him back asking if Zack left anything or mentioned anything...looks like things are escalating.
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NeonRaine
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Ahh, I have so much to catch up on and people to email! I did try emailing Reiko to ask her to tell us everything she knew... and then she died Sad .

Thanks Rhalandria for keeping us all posted!

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