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Sylocat
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 		This reminds me, I'm wondering how reliable Alex was at the end of #22. We see a shadow that's almost certainly Slendy's, hanging over his head for a moment during that speech, and he starts repeating himself, he doesn't seem to know it... I'm not sure Alex was reliable here.

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 		Interesting. Perhaps Alex got under Slender Man influence when the shadow appeared and decided to burn the tapes instead of doing something like calling the police.

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 		I'm not sure what he would have told the police anyway...
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 		"Some bald guy is lurking around my house, here's the footage, please do something about it," maybe?

In any case, we've seen how unreliable Jay has been, and that's even while he's been around to clear some things up. With Alex, who knows what he was up to. Everything we saw could have led us to believe something completely different from what actually happened.

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Dray wrote:
"Some bald guy is lurking around my house, here's the footage, please do something about it," maybe?

Good point... but if his friends wouldn't back him up (because they'd been mind-whammied), he'd also have to say that "my friends have all been brainwashed."

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In any case, we've seen how unreliable Jay has been, and that's even while he's been around to clear some things up. With Alex, who knows what he was up to. Everything we saw could have led us to believe something completely different from what actually happened.

I have been wondering why Alex didn't just show the tapes to the ones who had their memories erased... maybe it's more severe than memory lapses, maybe they had started actively trying to sabotage Alex's investigation?

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Sylocat wrote:
Good point... but if his friends wouldn't back him up (because they'd been mind-whammied), he'd also have to say that "my friends have all been brainwashed."


Well, he'd show the police the various Slendy footage, right? He wouldn't necessarily have to get his friends' backup, if he was bent on saving his own skin first and foremost. He didn't seem all that interested in anyone else so one'd think that he wouldn't mind sacrificing their backup to save himself.

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I have been wondering why Alex didn't just show the tapes to the ones who had their memories erased... maybe it's more severe than memory lapses, maybe they had started actively trying to sabotage Alex's investigation?


In the same way that Masky/TTA have been severely fucking up Jay's life in the last few months, you mean?

The only evidence that we see of anything like that happening three years ago is 'Exit', where TTA is filming Jay going back to Alex's car (or else, someone filmed Jay and TTA got his hands on the footage afterwards.) There's speculation that 'Return' was also filmed three years ago as well, not in the same time frame as #19, but that's not certain.

If that's the case, it could also explain why Alex became so withdrawn. If he wasn't sure that people were on his side or not, that would definitely help with the paranoia. We just... don't see much if any behavior to suggest that Alex was getting the same treatment as Jay is now. The only hints we have of that are really weak: Tim looking disapproving over the writing of the script, him and Sarah seeming frustrated by the filming... I can't even think of any other incidents. How could potential saboteurs get away from Alex's filming of everything without getting caught doing something weird that Jay didn't notice and upload?

...Or maybe it was Jay who was caught doing weird saboteur-y things. >Very Happy Oooooooh, crazy plot twist tiemz?

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Dray wrote:
The only evidence that we see of anything like that happening three years ago is 'Exit', where TTA is filming Jay going back to Alex's car (or else, someone filmed Jay and TTA got his hands on the footage afterwards.) There's speculation that 'Return' was also filmed three years ago as well, not in the same time frame as #19, but that's not certain.


This would lead to several questions:

Why Jay? Who Filmed Exit? What is Return supposed to be? Alex used J as live bait?

Did Alex taped Exit? Did Alex Taped Return too?

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If that's the case, it could also explain why Alex became so withdrawn. If he wasn't sure that people were on his side or not, that would definitely help with the paranoia. The only hints we have of that are really weak: Tim looking disapproving over the writing of the script, him and Sarah seeming frustrated by the filming... (...)


But he had seth with him in the last tape. There was someone in the basement of the water facility with him. That shows that he could trust in people that knew about SM.

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Dray wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
Good point... but if his friends wouldn't back him up (because they'd been mind-whammied), he'd also have to say that "my friends have all been brainwashed."


Well, he'd show the police the various Slendy footage, right? He wouldn't necessarily have to get his friends' backup, if he was bent on saving his own skin first and foremost. He didn't seem all that interested in anyone else so one'd think that he wouldn't mind sacrificing their backup to save himself.

Good point. I guess it's just because Alex was becoming too unstable and paranoid to want to involve the police.

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I have been wondering why Alex didn't just show the tapes to the ones who had their memories erased... maybe it's more severe than memory lapses, maybe they had started actively trying to sabotage Alex's investigation?


In the same way that Masky/TTA have been severely fucking up Jay's life in the last few months, you mean?

The only evidence that we see of anything like that happening three years ago is 'Exit', where TTA is filming Jay going back to Alex's car (or else, someone filmed Jay and TTA got his hands on the footage afterwards.) There's speculation that 'Return' was also filmed three years ago as well, not in the same time frame as #19, but that's not certain.

If that's the case, it could also explain why Alex became so withdrawn. If he wasn't sure that people were on his side or not, that would definitely help with the paranoia. We just... don't see much if any behavior to suggest that Alex was getting the same treatment as Jay is now. The only hints we have of that are really weak: Tim looking disapproving over the writing of the script, him and Sarah seeming frustrated by the filming... I can't even think of any other incidents. How could potential saboteurs get away from Alex's filming of everything without getting caught doing something weird that Jay didn't notice and upload?

...Or maybe it was Jay who was caught doing weird saboteur-y things. >Very Happy Oooooooh, crazy plot twist tiemz?

Hmm, I hadn't thought of that. You're right, Alex probably would have captured something more dangerous than the coughing fits and memory issues, if the others were acting dangerous.

But that reminds me of something else I've been wondering about:

At the end of Entry #22, Alex says that he's returning home and burning the tapes.

How much time passed between that, and when he gave Jay the tapes... and why didn't he burn them during that time? Was it only a day? A few hours, even? That's still enough time to burn a bunch of tapes. And I don't think Alex would just go back on his word... even if he'd only claimed he was going to burn the tapes while Slendy was in the room with him (at the end of #22, remember the shadow?)

Unless Jay only got a small percentage of the tapes... and many more had already been burned?
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Sylocat wrote:
Good point. I guess it's just because Alex was becoming too unstable and paranoid to want to involve the police.


People had noticed that one of the scrawlings on Alex's wall full of crazy mentioned 'Speaks To Me'. Could it be that Alex was being threatened by Slender Man in more than just the sense of being lurked around? Does the act of Slender Man speaking do something to damage a person's memory?

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At the end of Entry #22, Alex says that he's returning home and burning the tapes.

How much time passed between that, and when he gave Jay the tapes... and why didn't he burn them during that time? Was it only a day? A few hours, even? That's still enough time to burn a bunch of tapes. And I don't think Alex would just go back on his word... even if he'd only claimed he was going to burn the tapes while Slendy was in the room with him (at the end of #22, remember the shadow?)

Unless Jay only got a small percentage of the tapes... and many more had already been burned?


He seemed pretty adamant, I agree. What changed his mind to move all of his tapes into his attic? -- I remember reading that Jay showed up, saw the tapes in a huge pile, and asked to take them. It sounded like he got the whole pile, given that he mentioned how huge the pile was. Also, what caused Alex to return to his own house, if he was staying at Brian's place?

Maybe he was intercepted somewhere along the way, and made to forget the experience? I remember hearing that someone had postulated that Entry #10 happened after #22 with Alex getting chased down by Slendy... though after re-watching #10, that doesn't seem as likely: Alex's hair is shorter and he's not wearing the same clothes (we get a brief glimpse of him at around 1:19!). XD In any case, he could have been resolutely heading out to destroy the tapes, was made to forget about them, and then when Jay came along and brought it up again, he could have just remembered "oh yeah I need to burn those." As in, Slendy could have frozen that thought so that Alex only remembered when things were brought up again.

In the same way, it seems that Jay had forgotten about the tapes for quite some time, until something nudged him into remembering about them. He mentions that he found Alex's reaction too disturbing to look through them at the time, but that could always be a cover story for some more paranormal reason for forgetting!

In any case, I'm not sure that we can really get any resolution with why Alex didn't burn the tapes. Not unless we see him coming back into the series. I hope that he does! It would be so amazing to see if he's changed, if he's continued to be pursued by Slendy, or if he managed to make a clean break (and if he did managed to make a clean break, what will happen when he comes into contact with a couple of people who are still being Slender-stalked?) Tim seems to have been triggered into becoming a psychopath after seeing himself in #9 (assuming that he's TTA) and even moreso after #15 (assuming that he's Masky!), though he could have been suppressing his crazy from the get go. Jay's managed to survive for three years as well, even if his character is ridiculously flat (though I'd be happy to ascribe that to in game reasons, and not that the character has been neglected. XD) If Alex has survived, what has he had to sacrifice in order to hang on to living?

Anyways, assuming that the creators aren't going to piddle out and never have any resolution with Alex and where he disappeared to, I hope that we can see Jay getting some answers out of him, in character! (Oh man, an interview with Alex a la #15...? Yeaaaah! But if TTA is dictating what's going to happen on Sunday, what is so important that TTA knows about that Jay doesn't?!)

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Maybe Masky is going to confront and possibly talk or communicate with Jay

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 		JKat, I demand that you make a point by point response to my last post detailing what you speculate has, could, or will happen in the series! None of this one-liner post action, you hear me? (Also, the J at the beginning of your username makes me giggle every time I see it here in proximity to Marble Hornets. It's like 'J-Dawg' only more girly. XD)

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