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Any one think that maybe, just MAYBE the 'Alex, Brian' bit was just proof that TTA was at the scene when J said it.

Gosh, I just thought it was obvious.
/eyerollage

(it's liffington, cbf logging in atm on mobile)

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I honestly think Brian and Tim have both fallen into it, but that sound clip literally has nothing to do with it. It's just a distortion of Jay calling out for them when he goes into the house. That's all it is.

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Sorry, Its late and I can't sleep and my memory of the vids is voggy. [Ironicly.]

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Getting back to the topic of this thread, I am thinking that the ark could very well have been the last tape. The reason I think this is that Slender Man seems attracted to those who have filmed him, and in fact may just be summoned by the effort of watching said tapes. If Jay's home (and presumably, all of the tapes therein,) had been burned down, the single remaining tape might be an ark to Slender Man.

Of course, MM/TTA says that 'you will lead me to the ark' before the apartment complex burns down, however if he had had the intention of burning the place to the ground, he could have been thinking ahead.

I am not completely sold on this idea, given that we have some odd relationship dynamics at play here which cast doubt on who is working with who and who is working under what alias. Again.

I'm sure that this has all been discussed to death in the thread for Entry #26, so I'm not going to reiterate until I have a chance to read it all! However, if the tape is not the ark, there are a number of possibilities that all depend upon who TTA is; if TTA and Masky were working in tandem to get the remaining tape to Jay; and if TTA/Alex/Masky/Tim are working for or against Slender Man!

(On a side note, Aero and xxxblind, your argument was entertaining. You're both so dead set on TTA being one or the other... what if TTA is both? And by that, I mean that TTA is a shared account and not solely in Alex's possession?)

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that still gives into the theory of Alex being TTA. im not dead set against it actually. im just thinking at all points and filling any holes i can. unfortunately the theory of alex being TTA at this point is filled with too many holes. but i would just be called a nay sayer and voted off the island. maybe ill be sacrificed to the slendervolcano

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Dray wrote:
what if TTA is both? And by that, I mean that TTA is a shared account and not solely in Alex's possession?)

I have considered it, but there isn't much to support or debunk the idea.

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I'm going to dredge up some very old speculation, here, (from GnomonRose, if I remember correctly!) but TTA's age seems to be old enough to be a collection of people who are adding them all together. I'm trying to find more evidence aside from the strange fluctuation of 'us/we' and 'I/me' that occurs in various tapes.

A tricky question to solve!

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Dray wrote:

(On a side note, Aero and xxxblind, your argument was entertaining. You're both so dead set on TTA being one or the other... what if TTA is both? And by that, I mean that TTA is a shared account and not solely in Alex's possession?)


I've been thinking this for a while. I don;t think its solidly One person. Or if its one person uploading, theres more then one doing the vids.

The style of video changes and the constant refs to 'Us' etc says so. :/

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I had just begun to think that TTA was a single person. But 'Warning' is very different from the other videos. If Alex was TTA part of the time, it would better explain where the missing video and audio footage went. The videos involving the house or other 'on scene' filming sites could have been from one person, whereas the earlier films and clever codes could easily have been from another.

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CRAZY THEORY TIME!!

What if Alex IS the ark, but also part of totheark? Say if Alex and Tim comprised TTA, and Alex was sending Tim videahs and instructions from afar but refusing to actually get physically involved or even reveal his location. Tim would get pissed about that eventually (there does seem to be contention between them) and have rustled up some theory as to how to find Alex -- by exposing him to Slenderman once more and forcing him to reach out to Jay!

Now it gets a bit muddy here -- maybe Tim assumed if he burned the rest of the tapes (and Jay's apartment, because he's a jerk), Slenderman would 'jump' to the one remaining Slendy-tainted tape held by Alex (which could or could not have been a TTA video in progress?). Or somehow Tim planted the camera and the tape to ensure this would happen.

Hence burning down Jay's apartment would mean that Jay, receiving a message of "HELP" from Alex, would lead Tim "to the ark" -- to Alex.

(Though honestly I'm not sold on Alex being part of TTA. Open to the possibility, yes, but there's no definitive evidence either way!)

In any case, it would explain some of the style differences and schizophrenia displayed in the totheark youtube account, especially in Warning and then in Multipound (if we are to believe that was a TTA bit of sneakery). Perhaps eventually Tim began to make his own videos without Alex's input.

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Dray wrote:
I had just begun to think that TTA was a single person. But 'Warning' is very different from the other videos. If Alex was TTA part of the time, it would better explain where the missing video and audio footage went. The videos involving the house or other 'on scene' filming sites could have been from one person, whereas the earlier films and clever codes could easily have been from another.


Agreed. We may never know though. [Hopefully we do find out though >.<]

JKatkina wrote:
CRAZY THEORY TIME!!

What if Alex IS the ark, but also part of totheark? Say if Alex and Tim comprised TTA, and Alex was sending Tim videahs and instructions from afar but refusing to actually get physically involved or even reveal his location. Tim would get pissed about that eventually (there does seem to be contention between them) and have rustled up some theory as to how to find Alex -- by exposing him to Slenderman once more and forcing him to reach out to Jay!

Now it gets a bit muddy here -- maybe Tim assumed if he burned the rest of the tapes (and Jay's apartment, because he's a jerk), Slenderman would 'jump' to the one remaining Slendy-tainted tape held by Alex (which could or could not have been a TTA video in progress?). Or somehow Tim planted the camera and the tape to ensure this would happen.

Hence burning down Jay's apartment would mean that Jay, receiving a message of "HELP" from Alex, would lead Tim "to the ark" -- to Alex.

(Though honestly I'm not sold on Alex being part of TTA. Open to the possibility, yes, but there's no definitive evidence either way!)

In any case, it would explain some of the style differences and schizophrenia displayed in the totheark youtube account, especially in Warning and then in Multipound (if we are to believe that was a TTA bit of sneakery). Perhaps eventually Tim began to make his own videos without Alex's input.


First, Hi Kat! Very Happy It's Kayleigh XD.

You've really got me thinking now.. It's completely possible for any of the theories to be close.. TTA vids changed, so maybe it is Tim taking over or visa versa?

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Hi Kayleigh! XD Actually I'd be pretty surprised if what I just spewed out was the truth. But hey, that's why it's a craaaaazy theory!

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XD Lol! That indeed. God we can be such bad influences on eachother Razz

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JKatkina wrote:
CRAZY THEORY TIME!!

What if Alex IS the ark, but also part of totheark? Say if Alex and Tim comprised TTA, and Alex was sending Tim videahs and instructions from afar but refusing to actually get physically involved or even reveal his location. Tim would get pissed about that eventually (there does seem to be contention between them) and have rustled up some theory as to how to find Alex -- by exposing him to Slenderman once more and forcing him to reach out to Jay!

Now it gets a bit muddy here -- maybe Tim assumed if he burned the rest of the tapes (and Jay's apartment, because he's a jerk), Slenderman would 'jump' to the one remaining Slendy-tainted tape held by Alex (which could or could not have been a TTA video in progress?). Or somehow Tim planted the camera and the tape to ensure this would happen.

Hence burning down Jay's apartment would mean that Jay, receiving a message of "HELP" from Alex, would lead Tim "to the ark" -- to Alex.

(Though honestly I'm not sold on Alex being part of TTA. Open to the possibility, yes, but there's no definitive evidence either way!)

In any case, it would explain some of the style differences and schizophrenia displayed in the totheark youtube account, especially in Warning and then in Multipound (if we are to believe that was a TTA bit of sneakery). Perhaps eventually Tim began to make his own videos without Alex's input.


I'm not sure how Tim would have planted the tape in Alex's house, but this is definitely a plausible theory.

I do have one question about this whole situation, and I haven't been able to find a clear explanation. Was the statement in Entry ##### "You will lead me to the ark", or "You will lead me, TotheArk"?

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JKatkina wrote:
CRAZY THEORY TIME!!

What if Alex IS the ark, but also part of totheark? Say if Alex and Tim comprised TTA, and Alex was sending Tim videahs and instructions from afar but refusing to actually get physically involved or even reveal his location. Tim would get pissed about that eventually (there does seem to be contention between them) and have rustled up some theory as to how to find Alex -- by exposing him to Slenderman once more and forcing him to reach out to Jay!

Now it gets a bit muddy here -- maybe Tim assumed if he burned the rest of the tapes (and Jay's apartment, because he's a jerk), Slenderman would 'jump' to the one remaining Slendy-tainted tape held by Alex (which could or could not have been a TTA video in progress?). Or somehow Tim planted the camera and the tape to ensure this would happen.

Hence burning down Jay's apartment would mean that Jay, receiving a message of "HELP" from Alex, would lead Tim "to the ark" -- to Alex.

(Though honestly I'm not sold on Alex being part of TTA. Open to the possibility, yes, but there's no definitive evidence either way!)

In any case, it would explain some of the style differences and schizophrenia displayed in the totheark youtube account, especially in Warning and then in Multipound (if we are to believe that was a TTA bit of sneakery). Perhaps eventually Tim began to make his own videos without Alex's input.


I do like this, however there's a couple of weak points to it that make it questionable: First, how did Tim manage to plant the tape if he didn't know Alex's location? Secondly, if he did manage to find out Alex's location (either through his ability to plant the tape, or else involvement with getting said tape to Jay after the fact), why not just go there himself? Why involve Jay in the way that he did, on the day that he did? Why the two week lag?

Perhaps this could be partially solved when warping is brought into the mix...?

MirikuNuva wrote:
I do have one question about this whole situation, and I haven't been able to find a clear explanation. Was the statement in Entry ##### "You will lead me to the ark", or "You will lead me, TotheArk"?


That has been questioned many times, however, I think that many people agree that it's more likely to be, "you will lead me to the ark," simply because of the inflection of the speaker's voice. If it was, "you will lead me, totheark," then it could be a point towards Tim being the MM and Alex being either TTA himself, or else a major player on that account!

We only see TTA videos start up after Entry #9, and it's assumed that it's because that's when we first see Tim appear. What if it's not a sign of, "hiya everybody! It's'a me, Crazyman Tim!" so much as a message (Regards) from TTA to Tim to get his arse back in the game? (And for that matter, everybody except for Brian is present in #9, so it could be Regards to those still left standing... if the figure that we see in #26 walking down the dark hall is Sarah, she could still be alive. Though Seth looked like he carked it, we all know how ambiguous death scenes can be. Hmmm!) If the TTA account was meant both to guide Jay and Tim (and possibly the other two characters) then the schizophrenic change towards the end could have been Tim hacking the account for 'Warning', much the same way that the MH account was 'hacked' (though I still think that Jay simply left his computer open with his password remembered... XD) for ######.

Ramble ramble ramble! In any case, if Alex was the one who had set up the TTA account and started using it, he could still be the ark. It could be an account that he was trying to use in order to manipulate everyone to come back to him. Rally-point Alex!

(This is discounting the Tim-face that we see overlaying the rubble in 'Messages', which to me seems like an overt way to scream, "TTA IS TIM, YOU DOUGHBRAINS!" along with Jay's continued mention of MM being TTA...)

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