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A Century of Charades - 100 riddles from 1895
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lifegospel
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 		Well... It's obviously referring to Queen Mary of Scots.

Will try and find an answer later... Hmm
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rose
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 		Anyone?



I did learn from reading a biography "Lady in the Tower" that Anne Boleyn was beheaded by a sword - but I don't think that fits. I don't know what anyone would be looking at on a scaffold.

I still think it must be a type of vine or flower.


The one I was thinking of from LOTR is: Simbelmynė

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In The Lord of the Rings, simbelmynė was a white flower that grew in Rohan primarily on the burial mounds of the Kings,[35] and most thickly on the grave of Helm Hammerhand.[36] The name, also translated from Old English as Evermind, is a reference to the plant's blossoming during the whole of the year.

from wikipedia, where else?
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danteIL
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 		Well then only thing I can think of is "Ivy" because it might twine around a tomb and the first syllable "I" could be "eye" which is what is used for viewing.

I don't know what "vee" would be, which is why I think this isn't right.

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GreenWindmill
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 		"Ivy" was all I'd come up with so far as well for the same reasons Dante stated. I'd also rejected it for exactly the same reason!
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Ivy is incorrect, as you surmised.

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 		She saw the sickle (axe) with her eyes...
eyes-sickle

I know, too many syllables.

On the eye(s) theme- Iris

Maybe more like - (her) fate with scorn she viewed.

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 		Can anybody think of a way to fit in the part about her dog hiding beneath her dress? Strange really reading up on the event. didn't know she has been imprisoned for 20 years, prior. No wonder she showed such composure.
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Iris is incorrect.


Am I hearing the Silence in the Library?
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 		Ok, I think I might have this but it feels like a bit of a cheat because I've got it by trawling through lists rather than by any real bit of brain power.

I'm pretty sure the answer is
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SMILAX

(Which is a word I was not previously familiar with!)

So Queen Mary stood on the scaffold and
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the AXE
with
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a SMILE
she viewed.

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As was correctly speculated earlier on, Smilax is a climbing plant. I only arrived at this answer by going through lists of plants looking for anything which fit the rest of the charade.

This feels like a bit of a cheap win so I apologise if anyone feels this is out of keeping with the spirit of these puzzles - please speak up if so because I won't repeat the offence if that is the case. Otherwise, on with the show! Very Happy
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rose
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 		XXXVII
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Way to go Green Windmill! And thanks for all your hard work on this one! Smilax is correct! I would never have thought of "smile"; I did think of axe or sword for the second, but didn't think of smile. !

I don't have any problems with the way you found this answer, it doesn't sound like "cheating" in my book! I don't think we would have found it otherwise, unless someone happened to be a botany expert. In fact, I asked some friends of mine who are expert gardeners for possible plants that could fit this, unfortunately, they don't have imaginations like we do; they were just perplexed by the whole idea.

I'm so glad I found you guys. And, next:


XXXVII

I love my whole, men always will
While men are men and might is right;
'Tis more than courage, more than skill;
In man or beast it gives delight.
We hear the thunders rumble yet
That Webster from the rostrum hurled;
(It was my first, but men forget
The customs of the ancient world.)
The land still echoes with his fame
A glamour clings about his name;
Just take away my last, and see
How singular his words would be.
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 		Re: XXXVII
Trying to analyze the parts, I don't see a definition of the second syllable:
rose wrote:
I love aaaaabbbbb, men always will
While men are men and might is right;
...
(It was aaaaa, but men forget
The customs of the ancient world.)
The land still echoes with his fame
A glamour clings about his name;
Just take away bbbbb, and see
How singular his words would be.

Lame guess:
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Wordsworth

Assuming it's Daniel Webster, that leads me to another desperate guess:
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Dartmouth (College, court case)


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 		Re: XXXVII
[quote="catherwood"]Trying to analyze the parts, I don't see a definition of the second syllable:
rose wrote:
I love aaaaabbbbb, men always will
While men are men and might is right;
...
(It was aaaaa, but men forget
The customs of the ancient world.)
The land still echoes with his fame
A glamour clings about his name;
Just take away bbbbb, and see
How singular his words would be.


I had to look up what 'rostrum' means: a platform for public speaking; an anatomical structure resembling a beak; a bow on naval ships. Does 'ancient world' mean that word is no longer used?

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rose
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Wordsworth and Dartmouth are incorrect.


Just to be clear the first line, as written by cath is missing the word "my", the correct version is:
Quote:

I love my aaaaabbbbb, men always will



No idea if that matters or not.
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rose wrote:

Just to be clear the first line, as written by cath is missing the word "my",

Not really, I always read "my first (syllable)" or "my whole (answer word)" as a placeholder. Otherwise it would read "I love my my first" if it were "I love my cat", for example, or "I love my my whole" for "I love my mother." It's why i do the blank substitution, to get that confusing "my" out of the equation.

At first, I thought it might be
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music
with "his name" being only the first syllable. I think it's more likely that the full answer is a proper noun, the name of a poet, most likely. C'mon, you manly men, what authors come to mind?

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rose
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 		Cath, thanks for explaining! After I posted I wondered about that, so maybe reading it as "my whole" = answer works best?
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Music is incorrect


I know many poets, but I am not sure how to narrow the list down?
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