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Aethilides wrote:
With the launch of any vessel, especially one so blessed as ours...

I understand the urgency for information gentle folk, but the information is not forthcoming. Yet.
If you need something to occupy the time while we wait for the 'ship to set sail' as it were, find out more about who you work for, our history and our ideals.
No, I'm not just going to email you the handbook over. You were tested on your keen intellects and your ability to work together. Now do so...
[another picture will be added for your benefit shortly...]


So, I guess we have to work out the Cross puzzle before we can continue. I think we are making headway though.

For the email address puzzle V left clues on her blog/twitter, have to take a look at them.

Also, new picture of Great Britain with a spot over London. The picture is called "the looked-for spot" with the tag line "The eyes pointed the way here a long
time ago"

I seem to remember Telos has a whole interchange with someone regarding "I"s and "L"s and "eyes".
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If the attached is the sought after Gothic column/cross, it's located in Ampthill on the original site of Ampthill castle

There is an inscription/poem on it by the Earl of Oxford. Link Here
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:39 am
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More talking with claire this morning. I think we're coming closer to getting more of the events that happened during the kidnapping from her. While I was talking to her, it was basically the same information as before, but with confirmations on specific things that were speculation before, and the new bit of information (is it new?) that she was taken from Wolverhampton.

This confuses me, because, as she confirmed in the conversation, she was going over a bridge, leaving the London Eye behind her ( As in, going north across the Thames), yet, Wolverhampton is a 2-3 hour drive north of London.

Here's my current order of things.
Claire in Wolverhampton -> Kidnapped, taken for a ride -> passes the London Eye, heading over a bridge (most likely north again.) -> Green and red light event in bell tower -> Heading (north again?) to park in Milton Keynes -> Sees V with an old man 'on death's door' (Very likely to be VS, given the time this happened, and the meeting between JPW and VS in the same park.) -> Sees V is not her self, Claire runs

Now. When I was talking to her, I asked why anyone would take a three hour drive down to london, just to go back all the way up to Milton Keynes. (The trip from Wolvarhampton to Milton Keynes is about an hour and a half. The trip from Milton Keynes to London is about the same. She says she thinks it's to visit the tower. My only question about that, though, is that if she had to go north over the bridge past the Eye to get to the tower, why did they go that far down to begin with?

I'm starting to think that her brain is pulling a Pulp Fiction on her, unless the information she can't recall fills in these blanks.

During the conversation, a few things were brought up about how the lights possibly work, how the aging trick possibly works, how VS did his 'projecting' and V did her communication (think she called it Pulsing?), and other things. This lead me to think about how VS, V and JPW can (possibly) manipulate wiring and electricity through their 'complex mathematical' trick. As it was explained before, electricity and binary are basically the same thing (positive and negative, 1 and 0) and that's part of how they did what they did. I'm taking that further and thinking that the brain's impulses are electrical. Using a form of stimulation (In this case the red and green lights.), they could give the brain specific messages, which are taken as electrical pulses, and reprogram it (as a means of hypnotism).

Now, not totally giving away my idea on it, I went and asked JPW in an email about it, just to see what sort of information I would get from it, and tried pulling the 'I'd ask VS, but he's dead, and you both studied the same things' card, and acted as if I were interested in posing the idea as a new thing for the ministry look in to. I don't expect much in the line of useful game information, but maybe I'll get a heads up as to how that stuff worked. (that was one thing I constantly wondered about in the last part of this game.)

Any way, I'm starting to write a book with this post, so I'll cut it short. I haven't done anything with the actual ministry stuff so far, because I've been working the Claire side of this, but, keep me informed on what's going on there, and I'll try to keep you all updated on what's going on with her.
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Jason has approved the clock-face poster, but not the one showing the events of the Coventry Blitz.

Quote:
Recruitment 1 - no.
Recruitment 2 - yes.

1: We do not seek to avert antional disaster - that is when we misuse our power. However, we do ensure that history stays the same and that others do not misuse it [like a certain gentleman you had met a few months ago].
2: Perfect - you understand the doomsday imperative well, as well as the ideas of manipulating both word and image.
Congratulations - I think we have a new potential first mate maybe?

Please post this image wherever you see fit, though I would ask that you amend it to include where the viewer has seen the poster, so we can monitor the potential of recruitment areas for next year.

St Catherine and I thank you.

Jason


St. Catherine???

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Jason (JPW) replied to my email asking for details of Vladimir's burial service and location as I wished to send a bouguet of Buddleia (butterfly bush) flowers. There was no hidden msg enclosed.

Jason wrote:
Certainly Amandel

The problem is dependant upon where you define buried.

His death was at Bletchley Park, at his own hand.
Unfortunate, but necessary.

His service was held in North Fambridge, with Rev. Buddle doign the service [lovely old man].

His body was cremated and his ashes were given to his granddaughter.
She has asked politely that no-one knows of their location, nor her connection, which I will respect. There is no headstone.

Might I suggest that your bright flowers are perhaps scattered in the wind - Nestor was always keen on sailing.
As for his 'talking', I am not one who believes in spirits, but I am also aware that, of all of us, he had the strongest soul.

Thanking you. Your regards will be passed on. (My EDIT: to Vanessa)

Jason


An amusing mix of fact and fiction imo. Nestor, the Argonauts' elder statesman, might have been Vlad's code name at Argon. "Rev. Buddle" , however, was the botanist for whom the Buddleia plant is named. Source Here

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The name buddleia commemorates the amateur botanist and bryophyte expert, Reverend Adam Buddle (1662-1715). Buddleia was named for Buddle posthumously to recognize him for writing on early Flora of the British Islands


Most important: Supah poster idea, Dreamer. Also, the "Milligan" JPW mentioned to Telos is our Ning (Nang Nong), a Spike Milligan tune/poem reffy.

ETA: St. Catherine of Bologna is the Patron Saint of artists. Nice compliment, Dreamer.
Found another pic of the Ampthill column/cross, locally known as "Katherine's Cross" for Catherine of Aragon's history there.
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Got to head out, but wanted to quickly note: I've updated the poster as per Jason's request, and posted links to the new version in the Contest thread on the Ning (Aethalides requested I add it to the Ning in some way).

Thank you for your compliments on the poster...though the images were all from a Google images search for "time," heh Smile. Nothing about a doomsday occurred to me, but looking at the clocks now that Jason's said that, I do see that a couple main images are positioned very close to 12:00.

Later...

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Just a quick update from Claire:

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Just wanted to let you know I texted V. Wanted to keep it quite light for the first text.

Hey V long time no speak hey. The thing is I really miss you and your funny cat obsession and your typo's (joke) and I worry about you! I always did! I just wanted to let you know that no matter what happened in the past I miss you and i'm always here for you! If you need me i'm only a phonecall, email, text or facebook status update away xxx

love
Claire

Just wanted to let you know I texted V. Wanted to keep it quite light for the first text.


Yes - the last sentence was repeated. Copy and paste error, I guess.

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She texted back:

I'm sorry - who are you?
Are you one of the people I met on facebook last year? Sorry but I dont know you.
Would you like to join the Ministry??
Vanessa.


So, Vanessa has no memory of her bff, Claire, but she remembers me and, I assume, others like Telos, Dreamer, and Amandel?
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So. I got a reply to my email about the brainwashing device used on Claire and possibly V. Here's my initial email (Keep in mind it's kinda long and rant-tastic).

Quote:
Well. I don't know if they play that game over there in the UK, so, the pun may not make sense.. but, any way.

I had a question for you, since it seems Vladimir is dead, and, ghosts don't seem to exist (and if they do, they don't tell many tales.) and I can't ask him about it.

I've been looking in to a few subjects. Things I'm sure you, Alan, and he would know.

First, I've been trying to look further in to that little trick you all seemed to be able to do. VS' little 'projecting' deal, where he could keep tabs on people. Your hacking of my facebook and Claire's PC. V's communication (I think she called it pulsing?).

Second. I wanted to know if that trick could be applied in other ways, such as manipulating sources of light and energy. IE : Changing the current passing through something, causing an object to shut off or turn on, ect.

Third. I'm wondering if the electrical impulses in the brain follow the same structure as normal electricity, and if so, if they could be manipulated (under the assumption you can do what's stated in the second thought.) with the trick.

See. There's something I've been interested in knowing, that those three things all compound down in to.
I've been wondering if through the trick you all seemed to be able to do, if by manipulating sources of energy, one could 'control' someone else. I'm not talking about hardwiring a connection in to their heads and controlling them... but.. the human mind seems to be real subjected to external stimulation, such as sound, light, and suggestion, while under hypnosis. If an energy source could be manipulated to give off the right information to the brain to cause it to be open to that suggestion, well.. that'd be a great tool. Dangerous, but great.

I'm sure a man such as your self would have at least thought of this.

My idea is this:

Using a source of light or sound (Denoting a value to a specific light color/brightness or sound tone/length, as a 1 or 0 to emulate Binary), one could give off the right commands to altar electrical impulses in the brain. If this is achievable, the brain could basically be rewritten, or at least the person would not be conscious to what they were being made do, because they were no longer the ones thinking, the stimulus being forced on them would be taking that place. One could make someone forget something, or make them do something, or put up certain mental roadblocks to prevent them from doing/remembering something. When a specific key was given (stimulus from the control source) is given, or a trigger put in place during the stimulation is pulled, the person would return to their normal state and not be any different from before. As in, they would be free thinking again (save for any blockages 'programmed') in the person's head.

This all sounds like some crazy Sci-fi plot or something, but, it does seem like something the Ministry might have a hand in, if not for their own reasons, at least on a research side.

What are your thoughts?



He replies with four words.

Quote:
Welcome to the Ministry.


So either I've 'proved my worth', or he's being sarcastic, knows why I asked it, and is going to be keeping a tighter leash on what I can access..

More info from Claire too :
Supposedly V doesn't know who she is. They've known eachother six years.
She already thinks the lights were used on her as well. Either someone else is accessing her phone and email, or she's be given the same treatment as Claire.

Claire remembered a bit more as well.

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Claire

she sent me this:

I'm sorry - who are you?
Are you one of the people I met on facebook last year? Sorry but I dont know you.
Would you like to join the Ministry??
Vanessa.
8:19pmMe

...
8:19pmClaire

we've known eachother 6 years
8:19pmMe

yeah.. That's not right.
8:19pmClaire

can the lights erase all of that
8:19pmMe

I'm telling you now.. don't join.

Also..

I emailed JPW earlier

Gave him a long explanation of my 'idea' about a machine to reprogram the brain using external stimulus (Like the lights you were exposed to.), giving detailed ideas on it, in a way of trying to see what he would give up on it..

I got a response back that I should have expected

All it said was "Welcome to the Ministry."
8:21pmClaire

no hidden messages, nothing?
8:21pmMe

I didn't see any, though, I might not be looking close enough

I haven't gotten on the ministry site as of yet, though

so there may be something there.
8:22pmClaire

yeah

the others have told me they were on probation

not in the ministry yet

does that mean that you are?

also i went out today and had panic attack

and flashes of the woman again in the butterfly room
8:26pmClaire

and I think I remember something else about the lights which frightens me as much as Vanessa's response
8:27pmMe

Sorry, I switched windows. Any way, go in to what detail you can, but take it easy if you had a panic attack.
8:28pmClaire

when I calmed down I had what felt like a flashback

back to climbing the steps and being shown the lights

sometimes when I think about them they change green green green red really fast

and other times I try to remember it's slow

the frighteneing thing is that the voice I heard telling me to "forget"

well I think it was a female voice
8:30pmMe

Was the voice real, or was it a product of the lights? By that, I mean, was it something they put in your head, or was a real person saying it?
8:31pmClaire

i don't know

i can't be sure. it was the same time as the lights

so it could have been gnerated i suppose, maybe even an internal voice?

but in my memory i think someone or something was there with me

and she was telling me to forget

and as i said before when I was blindfolded in the tower I felt like there was something or someone there with me

I felt like I was being watched, maybe even guarded.
8:33pmMe

Possibly another ministry member, then.


I'll pastebin it if it continues from there.
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Got two new messages from Poeas, just posting them quick before I get back to studying (Ugh finals):

Quote:
Let me ask you a question:
How does time begin?
Let me ask you another:
WHERE does time begin?
A third:
IF you had the power to manipulate it, send messages through time and affect the flow of time in some manner, how long would it be until you manipulate it for your own personal gain?

Welcome to the Ministry, started by the Royal Astronomers and finishing with them too [if I have my way].
Have you read 1984 ? George forgot our Ministry...


And right after, this one:
Quote:

Email
What is yours?
Mine is similar to Libatrix's, but with one obvious difference!

I will test you and any you trust to help me. This needs to be done quickly though, before the party.
Thank you.

Hoping I'm not making a mistake,
HdR
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Have you read 1984 ? George forgot our Ministry...


1984 by George Orwell. If anyone hasn't read it (I think it's pretty standard high school reading these days), it's basically about Big Brother watching people.

Sparknotes ftw!

I searched for Royal Astronomers and found out that there's a position within the royal household called "Astronomer Royal". It's somewhat of an honorary title, with the person advising the monarch of scientific and astronomical issues. Don't know if it's related, but it's interesting nonetheless.

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Someone who is in direct contact with Poeas: please let her know that this is not a good time to draw attention to herself, and to be very careful as she goes about doing whatever it is she's doing. Jason has told me he will be watching her. As for how that came about, well, his correcting my misunderstanding of the Ministry's objectives led to my commenting that I had been led astray by a comment she'd made (referring to but not quoting her statement "Changing history for the better... hopefully..."). I guess that kinda ratted her out.

Looks like we have a bit of a rivalry going on inside the Ministry...if Poeas is the enemy of our enemy, maybe she can be our friend. However, I am not going to add her as a friend on the Ning; if Jason is looking at me as a possible first mate, then I want him to think of me as totally trustworthy. If Poeas' intentions are good ones, maybe I can do a little double-agent work. To be honest, I don't trust her, either, but time will tell, right?

The Royal Astronomers actually have a connection to the famous ravens that live in the Tower of London:
The Wikipedia article on the Tower of London, Ravens section wrote:
It was said that Charles II ordered their removal following complaints from John Flamsteed, the Royal Astronomer. However, they were not removed because Charles was then told of the legend that if the ravens ever leave the Tower of London, the White Tower, the monarchy, and the entire kingdom would fall (the London Stone has a similar legend). Charles, following the time of the English Civil War, superstition or not, was not prepared to take the chance, and instead had the observatory moved to Greenwich.


Hmm, where have we heard of Greenwich before? Oh yeah, that's where Vanessa and Johan and Vladimir lived in the previous chapter of this game.

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instead had the observatory moved to Greenwich.

Hmm, where have we heard of Greenwich before? Oh yeah, that's where Vanessa and Johan and Vladimir lived in the previous chapter of this game.


Quote:
Charles, following the time of the English Civil War, superstition or not, was not prepared to take the chance, and instead had the observatory moved to Greenwich.


Not only that, but if my faulty memory serves me correctly, didn't we learn about an observatory in Greenwich from Johan's papers?

Edit:
Telos, since you're obviously way smarter than me when it comes to this stuff (I seriously read your email to JPW and stopped after the first sentence, lol), is there any significance to the lights being
green-green-green-red? That's the sequence that Claire always uses when describing the lights. Obviously, not just for Telos. Anyone can jump in. I don't understand a lot of scientific stuff. I was happy to get science projects done and they usually didn't work anyway Embarassed
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dawndilion wrote:
is there any significance to the lights being
green-green-green-red? That's the sequence that Claire always uses when describing the lights. Obviously, not just for Telos. Anyone can jump in. I don't understand a lot of scientific stuff. I was happy to get science projects done and they usually didn't work anyway Embarassed


I just assumed it was a reference to the same sequence of lights being used to control people in an episode of Fringe, as well as that tying into the "sinople" word that keeps coming up.

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Oh, the first sentence thing was a comment to the subject line, which was 'Redlight Greenlight', y'know, that game kids play.

I thought the sinople thing as well. Then when I was pointed to the Fringe reference, that stuck too. Basically I was just talking out of my ass with the whole email, trying to piece together the things they did last game with a way of making lights brainwash people. It seems by the response I got that I was either spot on, or so far off that he thinks I'm not a threat.
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Dreamer, I just sent her an email urging caution, and answering her questions. I'm definitely up to being the primary contact point between us and Poeas. I don't entirely trust her either, just yet, but might as well hear her out.

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