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[UPDATE] ROUND 3 AXONS (9/3): fable.html
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 		sticky stickers
The thought that became an idea that became a vision that became a plan that was implemented by Ariock:

The idea of putting stickers with some sort of identification on the phones is now a reality. If you want to print out some labels with something on them to slap on a phone, here is the one we used that Ariock made: Axon Bee

He made the stickers 1" tall so that they are noticeable, but not overwhelming.
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 		Funny thing.
On August 24, when we were waiting for the phones to ring, a City worker came by and peeled off all the stickers on the phone (mostly ads for weight loss or work at home).

Something to keep in mind.
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johnny_Nitro wrote:
Funny thing.
On August 24, when we were waiting for the phones to ring, a City worker came by and peeled off all the stickers on the phone (mostly ads for weight loss or work at home).

Something to keep in mind.


Maybe he was clearing it up so you can see the bee stickers more easily. You never know who's a beekeeper.
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ROYALJELLY wrote:
Hello again:
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So if your phones don't ring check the number on the payphone with the one on www.payphone-directory.org and see if they match.
Yes, I've mentioned this before, but I had an axon here in Boise in round #1 with the wrong phone # on the www.payphone-directory.org site, it never rang. So I submitted a change of phone# to the payphone site, it updated over the weekend, and the phone rang in round #2 and #3. So, if you're in the same situation (correct coord, wrong phone#) you might want to try the same thing. You'd save whoever IS being called some headache.

Alternately, it might just be easier to have the afore-mentioned business answer the calls for you, with some coaching of course. I've personally had the front desk guy at the DoubleTree hotel take one of the calls for me and it was a lot easier than driving the 20min at 8AM in the morning to answer it myself Wink Wasn't able to get any sort of a transcript that way, but saved myself some gas money.
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 		Businesses
When contacting a business that is an axon:
One thing I found was that you get the best results when you talk with someone who has a supervisor or manager role. I always explain that Microsoft is running a promo for a game coming out. That it's a bit of a competition/scavenger hunt kind of thing. Then I go on to describe that their phone number was probably chosen by accident, and if you can answer the phone in a certain way - it'll help us to advance the game.

Two of the three busiensses I delt with didn't have a problem. At the third, the supervisor actually knew of Halo, was waiting for Halo 2, but didn't know about ILB. He told me to call and explain to the employee who will pick up the phone the next day, because he wouldn't be there (taking a vacation) - well the employee was not interested in listening to me, and kept telling me that the guy on vacation had gone to the store and would be back.

So sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Of course the first two businesses I delt with were McDonald's and I was there in person.

-Alderaad

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 		Re: Dallas Axons
gilada wrote:

Gonna try to get this one today
i_durga 15:39 32.778833 -96.807833 , although it's in a gov't building, so that's kinda creepy.

i_durga 15:41 32.779197 -96.806054 is 2 mins later, across the street up the way. I scoped it out a couple of days ago and it rings when I call it, but it didn't ring on Tuesday. So I'll try again today if I can and try to pick up the phone at the time and see if it answers. If time doesn't allow me to hit it today, I'll try on Friday, unless the file goes live w/o it.


For the first one, this must be in a gov't building, and they lock the doors at 5 or 5:30, so can't access that one.

For the 2nd one, the only payphone we could find never rings, and we try to pick it up multiple times at the correct time, never a call there, so these 2 coord look like busts.

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 		knoxville
i'm not sure where to put this, but i want someone (possibly PMs) to be aware that there are about ten of us who have been searching for the phone every day since Tuesday in Knoxville (and the axon has already gone hot, we know):

smarter
Time: 13:57 Long: -083.926626 Lat: 36.025135
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, United States

none of the phones in the vicinity of the coordinate are ringing at the given time, and we've tried 5 of them...there is one more down at the next intersection. there are 6 phones listed on payphone-directory.org that match the coordinates given on ILB, but the only numbers on the phones that match numbers at payphone-directory.org are ones that we have stood at and didn't ring (they DO accept incoming calls, we tried that) we have checked inside local restaurants (subway, arby's) but no payphones there. another thing to note is that one of the phones has its number mislabelled on the phone... it shows a 587 prefix but if you dial a 687 prefix it rings. any suggestions out there? is the payphone-directory.org site the official source? what do you do when you can't find the phone?
--craig

ps: i know it doesn't matter because its already hot but this is the ONLY axon knoxville has and i think i speak for all of us in knoxville when i say that if this continues we would like to continue receiving axons.

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 		Anyone else thinking of the quote from Dana's blog where these business phones are concerned?

Dana wrote:
Anyway: As it turns out, I don't seem to have any friends of friends in Ketchikan, Hazard or Ronan. Time to extend the search by another degree: Do you?


Maybe they know that some of these phones are ringing to private places. I'm sure we all agree that this axon game won't be over until we're 777/777, and since the number of required axons keeps getting increased to make it harder, this just seems like another challenge for us [meta]To make it more interesting (as interesting as answering a phone can be Twisted Evil[/meta].

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 		Re: knoxville
tycho wrote:
i'm not sure where to put this, but i want someone (possibly PMs) to be aware that there are about ten of us who have been searching for the phone every day since Tuesday in Knoxville (and the axon has already gone hot, we know):

smarter
Time: 13:57 Long: -083.926626 Lat: 36.025135
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, United States

none of the phones in the vicinity of the coordinate are ringing at the given time, and we've tried 5 of them...there is one more down at the next intersection. there are 6 phones listed on payphone-directory.org that match the coordinates given on ILB, but the only numbers on the phones that match numbers at payphone-directory.org are ones that we have stood at and didn't ring (they DO accept incoming calls, we tried that) we have checked inside local restaurants (subway, arby's) but no payphones there. another thing to note is that one of the phones has its number mislabelled on the phone... it shows a 587 prefix but if you dial a 687 prefix it rings. any suggestions out there? is the payphone-directory.org site the official source? what do you do when you can't find the phone?
--craig

ps: i know it doesn't matter because its already hot but this is the ONLY axon knoxville has and i think i speak for all of us in knoxville when i say that if this continues we would like to continue receiving axons.


Are you sure that the Knoxville Axon has gone HOT? If you look at 13:57 PDT on ILB, you will see that it has NOT gone HOT yet, but you are saying that it actually has. Did someone actually find the correct phone, and give the correct response, but it just never registered on ILB?

I know there are many axons that have gone HOT, but for some reason they are not being added to the grand total towards the goal of 777.

I know what you mean about wanting to continue getting more axons. I wish Memphis would get more myself. I seemed to be the only one going after the only axon here until I got my brother involved. I let him take care of Raffle this week. Thanks! Rock On

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 		I'm starting to worry about ever getting to 777 now though. As of my last refresh, we've increased from 485 to 486 axons hot for the entire morning. In the process missing 34 possible axons and 4 wav files. And our 486 axons now brings us (after 3 1/2 weeks of answering phones) to a grand total of 62.5% of 777 axons.

I know there are a lot of us out there trying extremely hard to get all of these (I've been 1/2 3/3 and 3/3 in my home city so far and I'm now branching out to every place I've got any friends in by phone and email), but I'm starting to wonder if with 1) our limited #s and 2) the <sarcasm> extreme exactness </sarcasm> of all of the axons we'll ever reach 777.

No, that's probably not right. Given enough weeks and lists of axons, the hardcore (read insane) group of us would probably reach 777 eventually, but if the # of axons required per wav file keeps increasing as it has been, we may be hearing fewer and fewer of them.

Then again, if opening all the wav files is a requirement to get the next set, then we may never get to 777 after all.

Ok, well </pessimism> <optimism> let's get out there and get what we can, and get others into the fray as well I guess. Can't wait for next week to see if good ol' Boise Idaho goes from 3 to 4 (or more) possible axons.
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 		Asp: he means the .wav file that the axon is in the group for...
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Atrophied wrote:
Asp: he means the .wav file that the axon is in the group for...


Ah, my mistake. Sorry, I misunderstood.

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 		Re: Businesses
Alderaad wrote:
When contacting a business that is an axon:
One thing I found was that you get the best results when you talk with someone who has a supervisor or manager role. I always explain that Microsoft is running a promo for a game coming out. That it's a bit of a competition/scavenger hunt kind of thing. Then I go on to describe that their phone number was probably chosen by accident, and if you can answer the phone in a certain way - it'll help us to advance the game.


I also suggest having a letter of intent
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 		Tycho wrote
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none of the phones in the vicinity of the coordinate are ringing at the given time, and we've tried 5 of them...there is one more down at the next intersection

The first possible way of correcting things is following wephun's advice. http://payphone-directory.org/ quickly updates your submissions. It worked for wephun and it may work for you. Also report your correction here.

So in your case, find out the phone numbers for the phones near where the GPS coordinates are.
If you find some phone numbers that are NOT in the http://payphone-directory.org/website, submit them. I would limit it to one or two, since you don't want to have to stake out a whole bunch of phones later.

OR

Another option if you do not have a lot of numbers to call is to call the phone numbers listed in the http://payphone-directory.org/list for those GPS coordinates and make sure they are really located at the addresses shown on the list. You may be surprised to find that although it says a phone number is located on 4800 N Broadway, perhaps it is actually somewhere else.

This is what happened to our Madison, Wisconsin group. We could never find the phones for the 7:43PST axon. The same GPS coordinates were used in the first couple of rounds and no phones near the coordinates ever rang.

Well, it turns out that whoever originally reported the phone numbers to http://payphone-directory.org/ gave the wrong name/address of the building that the phones were in!

Yesterday I kept calling the 3 payphones on the list until someone finally picked up. The person told me where the phone was located. Sure enough, I went to the phone's REAL location this morning and it rang. (Thanks to Rob for helping me cover all three phones!) It was no where near the GPS coordinates, because the GPS coordinates were based on wrong address.

Since it appears that the GPS coordinates were taken from the addresses on the http://payphone-directory.org/ site, if someone originally gave the wrong address then the GPS coordinates used for the game will also be wrong.

One interesting note, the phones that I had to call do not ring for incoming calls, therefore I spent a long time calling before someone finally picked up.

I know this was a long post but I hope this makes sense.

Good luck!

Eric

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 		Critical Axons
Assuming things go as they have in the past couple of weeks, we are about halfway through our allotted time for the fable.html axons. We've got most of the .wav files, but a few stubborn ones are still alluding us. For all the ones that have a time before 9:00 PDT, we have the two days of the weekend and Monday to get them, while those after 9:00 PDT are also available to us today.

While I do think it's a good idea to get every axon we can, we should certainly focus on those required to unlock those .wav files we haven't gotten at yet. A few days ago, aspmaster made a nice version of our favourite Excel spreadsheet that shows which axons in the fable.html group were previously used in the links.html and hivekuts.html groups. Particularly handy is the fact that aspmaster's table also showed which of those went hot in previous rounds.

So, thanks to aspmaster, we have a reference that shows us which axons have been previously activated and are therefore possible to activate again. There are certainly plenty of axons that cannot be found or are associated with a phone that simply doesn't work. However, I think we can generally assume that if an axon was successfully heated previously, it can be heated again.

With that in mind, I've made an edited version of aspmaster's table (and attached it to this post) that includes only axons for .wav files we have yet to unlock, and draws special attention to those axons that have been heated in previous rounds that can complete a set of 5/5 and get us a .wav file. If you are located near:

Code:
Austin, Minnesota (6:11)
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (6:15)
Baltimore, Maryland (6:35)
New York, New York (6:39, 7:23)
Charlotte, North Carolina (6:55, 10:07, 10:29)
Wilkinsburg, Pennsylvania (6:57)
Stevensville, Montana (7:03)
Painted Post, New York (7:09)
Chicago (7:25, 13:23)
Irving, Texas (8:07)
Kent, Ohio (8:11)
Albuquerque, New Mexico (8:17)
San Diego, California (8:19)
Seattle, Washington (8:21)
Chickasha, Oklahoma (8:25)
San Francisco, California (9:21, 9:31)
New Augusta, Indiana (9:23)
Mobile, Alabama (9:25)
Ogden, Utah (9:27, 9:47)
Dothan, Alabama (9:43)
Round Hill, New York (9:45)
West Lafayette, Louisiana (9:49)
Denver, Colorado (9:55)
Boulder, Colorado (10:09, 15:23)
Frederick, Maryland (10:13)
Scranton, Pennsylvania (10:25)
Macon, Georgia (10:57)
Sedalia, Missouri (10:59)
Minneapolis, Minnesota (11:01)
Paramus, New Jersey (11:05)
Raleigh, North Carolina (13:21)
Longmont, Colorado (13:27, 15:45)
Lutz, Florida (13:39)
Salt Lake City, Utah (15:21)
Austin, Texas (15:51)


then there is an axon near you that has been successfully enhottenated before that needs to be enhottenated again Smile .

EDIT: This strategy assumes aspmaster's table is correct. I would be amazed if in a table of this size, compiling all that data from 3 rounds of axons, that there weren't any errors. I recommend users of this information check the coords for the current axon against those from previous rounds themselves before they actually head out to them. There could be errors in there, but hopefully it is mostly correct Smile .
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