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Bran
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Super 8
So a movie that takes place in the late 70s in Ohio? Seems like Spielberg's jurisdiction, but since JJ wrote it lets expect a big surprise... Lion turtle whale voltron wants out of him box

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Bran wrote:
So a movie that takes place in the late 70s in Ohio? Seems like Spielberg's jurisdiction, but since JJ wrote it lets expect a big surprise... Lion turtle whale voltron wants out of him box


My god, people STILL think the guy in the Cloverfield teaser said "lion" when it was really "alive"? Riddle me THIS, then: DOES THIS LOOK LIKE A FREAKING LION TO YOU?!



If you still think that looks even remotely like a lion, then I'd advise you go back to school.

Anyway, I think that paring Steven Spielberg with J.J. Abrams for this movie is just as awesome of a pairing as Guillermo del Toro and Peter Jackson with The Hobbit. I can barely think of anything that might screw this up...unless Speilberg goes back into War of the Worlds/Minority Report territory *shudder*.[/img]

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 		Looking at the pic I posted.. it kinda looks like 2 ETs (one standing on the other's shoulder) wearing a longcoat (to look human?). the top one is looking to the camera while the figure is facing to our left.

On a more serious note:

A quick review of what we 'know'*
Trailer:
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Materials being moved from Area 51 to Hanger 18 in Ohio were compromised when the train was (seemingly) deliberately derailed.**
Something strong escaped, the event was filmed.
More in depth info will likely need to wait for HD trailer.

ScariestthingIeversaw.com
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We appear to be remotely accessing an Air Force computer system(STALOG) to access a larg-ish set of files.
This computer seems to have been Dan Morris' (Master Sergeant Dan Morris, USAF (Retired))', a figure involved with Area 51.

(testimony here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/disclosure/briefing/disclosure12.htm )


*'know' being subjective as it's all informed speculation based on available evidence.
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LittleLea
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Super 8
MOVIELORD101 wrote:
Bran wrote:
So a movie that takes place in the late 70s in Ohio? Seems like Spielberg's jurisdiction, but since JJ wrote it lets expect a big surprise... Lion turtle whale voltron wants out of him box


My god, people STILL think the guy in the Cloverfield teaser said "lion" when it was really "alive"? Riddle me THIS, then: DOES THIS LOOK LIKE A FREAKING LION TO YOU?!


I think he was kidding Wink

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 		Super 8
Scariestthingieversaw DL fix
AzureWolf wrote:
Narii wrote:
Any suggestions on how to get the DL to start? (Using Mac OS Snow Leopard btw)


Some people have reported that on certain machines with certain browsers, using the letter "Y" doesn't work, they have to type the number "1" instead.


Wow, I can't believe I didn't think about that LOL after taking all those scripting classes and dealing with booleans

But Yay, it works! Thanks a bunch, it works now, for anyone using Snow Leapord on a Mac w/ Safari probably will need to do this (or not sure maybe I just have some wired setting)

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degravedi
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 		I've been looking into some background of where in Ohio that train may have been going. Especially since JJ Abrams seems to be very detail oriented, and rarely just pulls stuff like that out of nowhere. Not that any of this really matters, but it's at least something interesting to peruse and discuss while waiting for the countdown to end.

So, I was very interested to find that there is supposedly a government facility equal to Area 51 called Hanger 18 on the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Allegedly, it was one of the places that housed wreckage from the 1947 Roswell crash for study.

Check out some of the information here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright-Patterson_Air_Force_Base#Operational_history (look for the Project Blue Book entry under Operational History)

And of course some more interesting reads that should be taken with a grain of salt, seeing how many nutters there are in the world. Laughing
http://www.abduct.com/features/f99.php
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=10849

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LittleLea
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degravedi wrote:

So, I was very interested to find that there is supposedly a government facility equal to Area 51 called Hanger 18 on the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Allegedly, it was one of the places that housed wreckage from the 1947 Roswell crash for study.

Check out some of the information here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright-Patterson_Air_Force_Base#Operational_history (look for the Project Blue Book entry under Operational History)

And of course some more interesting reads that should be taken with a grain of salt, seeing how many nutters there are in the world. Laughing
http://www.abduct.com/features/f99.php
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=10849


That would match the quote I snipped earlier from Dan Morris's testimony...
http://www.galactic-server.com/rune/greer6.html

"They went to Wright-Pat Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, where we usually send most of what we recover. There are about eight levels under the ground, and we store it there."

Some interesting links there! Time for more digging! Very Happy

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degravedi wrote:
I've been looking into some background of where in Ohio that train may have been going. Especially since JJ Abrams seems to be very detail oriented, and rarely just pulls stuff like that out of nowhere. Not that any of this really matters, but it's at least something interesting to peruse and discuss while waiting for the countdown to end.

So, I was very interested to find that there is supposedly a government facility equal to Area 51 called Hanger 18 on the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Allegedly, it was one of the places that housed wreckage from the 1947 Roswell crash for study.

Check out some of the information here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright-Patterson_Air_Force_Base#Operational_history (look for the Project Blue Book entry under Operational History)

And of course some more interesting reads that should be taken with a grain of salt, seeing how many nutters there are in the world. Laughing
http://www.abduct.com/features/f99.php
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=10849


Yeah that pretty much follows with my current line of SPEC. With all this "Transport to a secure area in Ohio" "D. Morris" and "STALOG" business, I think we can expect this experience to revolve (at least partially) around "what happened" to the freight train carrying the Area 51 material.

Oh and to clarify an earlier post, STALOG stands for Study of Automation of the Logistic System. Automation as in data processing and logisitcs as in the movement of freight. I assume AF to mean Air Force.

I'm also fairly convinced that D. Morris refers to USAF Sergeant Major Dan Morris. I ran across one of his tesitmonies and...wow.

ETA: Project Blue Book took place in the 50s (after the roswell crash). Not saying that this doesn't somehow involve PBB but I kind of think this is "something else".

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degravedi
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vapor wrote:
ETA: Project Blue Book took place in the 50s (after the roswell crash). Not saying that this doesn't somehow involve PBB but I kind of think this is "something else".

Oh, no, I wasn't trying to say this was actually involved with Project Blue Book. That was just the prominent entry on the page about the base having secret facilities and ufo related tasks. Cause everyone knows, whenever the government gives a press release that it's shut down a questionable facility, it's actually still there and that's where they're doing all the cool stuff they don't want us to know about. Razz

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Just a couple of things I'd like to point out:

The pickup in the trailer for Super 8 is a 1964-66 Chevy Fleetside 'small window' truck


Ah thank you. I was convince that it was a 1961 Ford F100 unibody. Now examining the tail lights, tailgate and side panels I can see you're right.
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LittleLea wrote:
The more I look at that blog, the more I think he just randomly samples anything J.J. Abrams, puts up some vague text and pictures and voila.

Tada! 500 Rads solved!
Twisted Evil

(Now, if everyone else can start thinking that...)
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Banemore
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Animaniac wrote:


We appear to be remotely accessing an Air Force computer system(STALOG) to access a larg-ish set of files.
This computer seems to have been Dan Morris' (Master Sergeant Dan Morris, USAF (Retired))', a figure involved with Area 51.

(testimony here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/disclosure/briefing/disclosure12.htm )


*'know' being subjective as it's all informed speculation based on available evidence.


Well, I've been thinking/researching this fact. When we boot up thescarriestthingieversaw.com and get to the PDP-11 page, the first thing it says is that it's a PDP-11 Simulator, with a particular license. Then it says it has a copyright of 1977, DAC, Acton, Mass.

Then blah blah blah, you get to the countdown.

A big question has been, what does the countdown represent, right? Presumably it's going to show itself on the dates people have calculated, but in the meantime we should ask ourselves why it's being presented in the way it is. Why a PDP-11 Simulator? Why are we looking at a countdown from February 5th, 1977, with software that is owned by a D. Morris?

So first, I did some research on the PDP-11. It was one of the first minicomputers built to compete with big, room-sized ones of the '60's and 70's. (see http://simh.trailing-edge.com/pdp11.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-11 for info. on it.)

It was built by Digital Equipment Corporation (or DEC) that was headquartered in Maynard, Massachusetts. Maynard, Mass. is less than 5 miles away from Acton, Mass (where a company DAC apparently copyrighted the software we're looking at in thescarriestthingieversaw.com in 1977). Coincidence? I don't think so. But, I don't know if JJA has a tendency to switch up the little details in his ARGs. Someone please comment if you know better than I do.

Okay, back to the original question, why is the information we have being presented in the way it is?

Because we're told that it's a simulator, we know that we aren't actually seeing information coming from a PDP-11. But we are remote-viewing another computer with the simulator on it, and someone is allowing us to see it. What if someone (maybe D.Morris?) is trying to show us "the proof" he has for whatever we're trying to figure out? We know that the person has some sort of proof, because when we try to print, we're told to: "Stop posting publicly, I can answer all of your questions. I have proof"

The person telling us that has to be the person who owns the computer. I think that that's important because it might reveal the nature of the movie. In the Cloverfield ARG, the pictures we got and the trailer hinted in the way the movie was going to be shown. I think that JJA is doing the same thing.

In conclusion, I think that someone is trying to reveal information to the public. The owner of the computer on thescarriestthingieversaw.com has data that can only be accessed/analyzed by a PDP-11 simulator, and is trying to reveal it to us. Perhaps it was a video shot on a 8mm camera, or something else entirely. I also think that this hints as to how the movie will be shown, and the setting of it. I don't think that the movie will be set in 1977, but will be set in 2011 and we'll see footage of something that happened in 1977. This, again, is similar to how the Cloverfield movie was shown(since the footage we saw was from a recovered video-camera after the disaster occurred).

Now, I'm just trying to analyze the information we have right now. I don't think I'm grasping too largely at any straws right now, but if someone disagree's with me, please voice your opinions. I know that it might not matter at this moment, but I think there is more information here than we realize.

Edit: Apparently, there are downloadable software packages out there for the PDP-11 simulator and the OS's it had. I'm not very software savvy, so I don't know where to start when installing a software-package like that, but maybe someone download a PDP-11 simulator and give it a try to see if there are any major differences between the one we're shown on the thescarriestthingieversaw.com website and one we've downloaded. I believe that it's free to download, but I haven't had too much of a chance to look into it. http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/pdp11emu.html That site seems to be the best place to start.

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Nice research, perhaps the geographic data may be relevant (and true: JJ Abrams is always very precise with his stories)
And, yes, you're right about the situation. I'm also actually thinking the whole time, why and who "posts publicly". We (=unfiction) aren't meant:

1) PMs are pretty experienced, so they respect the meta level, for the reality of this person owning a computer, we don't exist (I just have to say it because there were some projects, where Unfiction was involved in alternate reality)
2) This message was in the computer before the page was discovered by us. So again, there should be some sources discussing something publicly.

And what are these four ">" signs? Perhaps really a hint to a domain?
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And what are these four ">" signs? Perhaps really a hint to a domain?


I assumed that due to the year that this is supposedly taking place the printers are all dot matrix. Thus the >>>'s are the indication of EOF so the user knows where to tear the page from the printer. Makes sense?
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kosmopol wrote:
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Nice research, perhaps the geographic data may be relevant (and true: JJ Abrams is always very precise with his stories)
And, yes, you're right about the situation. I'm also actually thinking the whole time, why and who "posts publicly". We (=unfiction) aren't meant:

1) PMs are pretty experienced, so they respect the meta level, for the reality of this person owning a computer, we don't exist (I just have to say it because there were some projects, where Unfiction was involved in alternate reality)
2) This message was in the computer before the page was discovered by us. So again, there should be some sources discussing something publicly.

And what are these four ">" signs? Perhaps really a hint to a domain?


Thank You. I think that the geographic data is more of just an interesting tidbit, and something that caught me by surprise when I was investigating the PDP-11, but not necessarily something immediately relevant to the movie.

But, what exactly do you mean by your first point? I understand that in game, we as a forum, don't exist. We exist out of the game, and are the players. However, this is viral marketing (marketing being one of the key words), so where is the line between being part of the game and not? If it is all part of a big marketing deal, wouldn't we, the customers, be the target/audience? And wouldn't that therefore make us part of the game?

God...I hope I'm making sense. This is really starting to remind me of the movie, The Game, with Michael Douglas.

This is really the first major ARG i've been a part of, I only lurked on the Cloverfield ARG. I might have to familiarize myself with things that are IG and OOG.

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