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Sylocat
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I've been speculating for a while now that Alex and his buddies went from shooting a movie to becoming a Slendy investigation team, and Alex said they were "gone" because Slendy wiped their memories one by one.

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Mr.Beyond
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This is a distinct possiblity; mind-wipe makes sense in the case of J and POSSIBLY Tim, although from his actions as Masky/TTA, it seems like he remembers pretty damn well what happened. Doesn't explain why no-one can find Brian, though. For all we know, Sarah and Seth could be leading normal lives and no one thinks to talk to them, but Brian is definitely missing somewhere from the sounds of the Tim interview.

And the guy who plays Alex isn't all that bad an actor.... ^^ At least he's better than the girl who plays Sarah. The entries do a pretty good job of making everything feel natural, really.

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Yeah, somehow Tim got his memories back... or at least enough of them to piece stuff together, go thoroughly bonkers and get a mask. And Alex had enough of his memories left to not completely break down when Slendy showed up in his living room in entry 26.

I wonder how that happened.

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I do like the cleverness of masking people who aren't actors as actors who can't act in the story. That was smart!

As for the goners, it's probably some mixture of the above speculation. Some were gone physically, others gone mentally, and Jay just backed out because he was only loosely orbiting the crew to begin with?

I would guess that after Alex dropped his tapes on Jay, he spent the next little while recovering from his experiences, enough so to lead a normal life. Three years is a while, after all... and they do paint him to be a stable character. Even when Slendy was stalking him he was only irritable around others and a little paranoid. He didn't seem to have been pushed over the edge into batshit crazy territory, like we see with Masky/Tim. In any case, he probably worked through what memories he had and put them to rest once he was starting to feel better... it could be that he didn't break down because, as terrifying as seeing Slendy back in the picture, he'd worked things out for himself?

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Or it could be he didn't break down because he'd escaped Slendy once before, for three whole unstalked years, so he was confident that he could get away from him this time, too? He certainly is portrayed as being pretty sensible. He took the "smart" path by attempting to burn all his tapes and make a new life for himself- it almost worked, too, except a camera came back to him. He certainly managed to get away from it for longer than J did- J had only barely managed to put himself together before he got dragged headfirst back into it. Alex had time to lead a normal life- which may be another reason he was so calm, because he had to reassure and protect Amy. That certainly seems like the reason he didn't freak out about the camera- I bet he didn't want to frighten her. Sweet guy, XD.

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Plus Alex didn't hav a masked lunatic after him. Although if skully is prototype mask, which im leaning towards, then what I just said is wrong ;P

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There's still the question of if the shaky red HELP sign was done by Alex or not. People think it's a setup, and I'm inclined to agree. I wonder if they both got away safe, or if Amy will have gotten the hack, buying Alex enough time to mail off the tape? Regarding the likelihood of it being a setup, seems more like they'd both have gotten caught and that Jay is plunging into investigations that will lead him to his doom.

Really, the only thing that keeps me from thinking that this is the end is that unexplained question of 'what is the ark?' that's been floating around since #9. (Aside from the outright 'hey guys, keep an eye out for Part II!' that recently came up.) If it weren't for that, everything else points towards 'everyone dies... some sooner than others' as an ending!

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That "HELP" sign matches TTA's handwriting and shaky-animation style perfectly.

On the other hand, it's still possible that Alex is TTA.

But even if he's not, I still don't think TTA is working for Slendy (unless Slendy's got a scheme so ridiculously complicated that the Big Reveal will make us groan, "Oh come on, why would Slendy go to that much trouble?"). Now, that doesn't mean it's not a setup per se, but I think it's a different kind of setup than just leading Jay into Slendy's waiting tentacles.

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What kind of setup would it be, then? To get Alex and Jay back together so that they can work on solving their dilemma together?

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That's a definite possibility. My guess is that the Ark is some special key that can neutralize Slendy in some way, and TTA wants to use it for that purpose or some other. Or maybe it's something that Slendy is after, and TTA wants to get to it first just to keep it away from him.

If either Alex or Jay is the Ark (or if they have it locked inside them somehow, or they are the only ones who can activate it for some reason), not only would it answer that question, it would also explain the thing that's been puzzling me this whole time: According to the mythos, Slendy has never taken anywhere near this long to finish off his victims before. He was stalking Alex for months and Jay for possibly even longer, while his past victims were finished off a couple days after they saw him.

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Also adding in that he seems to have taken no time on Brian or Sarah. Uh oh, if this is right, then that means unless Amy is important, she is going to die soon.

Edit: Fixed what I said.

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EDIT: Oh, so THAT'S what you meant.

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Either she will shortly, or she already has. If they're planning on running it in real time, so that the next time that we see Jay (or Alex, perhaps, or Masky/Tim?) after whatever has happened in the past month+, shit could be going down right now, however none of the characters have access nor want to communicate it with the internet.

:c That would suck, though. Amy should get at least some allusion to how and what happens to her if she disappears.

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>.< I know no-one has replied to this in a while, but after a long period of not being on the board and silence, i felt like bumping this thread to dredge up some old theories I had earlier. Course it won't get me anywhere, but I do love the discussing.

I started thinking about my earlier theory that Return was filmed or set three years ago, which was pretty much debunked by the evidence of J wearing the same clothes as the night he disappeared.

But then I combined that with the theory that had been floating around that J was warped to the NIGHT OF SETH'S DISAPPEARANCE on his visit to the slendybasement.

Well, all this is aimless speculation, but I started to entertain the notion that maybe he disappeared from his room and TRAVELED BACK to three years ago, which is when Return occurred?

I keep coming back to this "three years ago" thing mostly because it just doesn't fit to me that Mr. Operator would be out and about suddenly after three years of silence, and in conjunction with Jay no less, who he's never had any previous encounters with.
Some friends and I were actually entertaining the notion that Return was set the night of the entry where Operator sneaks into Alex's room and then we catch Alex bleeding. It's really groundless, but that IS the first time we catch Oppy actually INSIDE the house, whereas before he's only peeked in through windows and stood outside on the porch.

Course, this may be totally debunked and I'll feel like a fool. Nevertheless, theorizing in the gap between part I and II is a nice way to pass the time Smile

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G.I.R
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Well one thing associated with the Slender mythos is that the more you know and research about him, the more you become a target to him. Since J started posting the videos he was exposed to Slendy's presence. From that point on the more he researched the tapes and found out about Alex's predicament, he began to turn into a target himself until Slendy "returned" and took him. And I do believe that in entry 11 Slendy got into Alex's house and into his room for the first time.

I do like the theory that he was taken back in time. The only quip I have is we haven't seen SM have that kind of power. It would be very interesting.

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