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[Player Joe]

Re: Dates

[asda]

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[thebruce]

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[Player Joe]

Re: 2nd

[AmblinAlong]

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[Adm_BlackCat]

Very nice SPEC Player Joe. Sounds very cat and mouse.

[Saiyan King]

I have to agree, this is a very detailed and succint summarization of the events so far. you even thought of a couple of things that i hadnt. i like your idea of how the newspapers are actually the kids trying to communicated with one another. very good. for your effort, one freshly baked delicious mama's homecooked brownie

[Player Joe]

[The Barmaid]

Trailer revisited. Thinking out loud - not for fish purposes. Most of the threads on S8 seem to have pushed into hidden eggs that there's not a lot being said about the story we got to work with.

Just wondering if it may point to something we've missed.

Train leaves Nevada with cargo intact, as per the radio transmission. Going to Ohio.


Truck appears to be in a hurry to intercept - recanting my original impression it lost control. Truck deliberately tying to intercept the train, stop its course, prevent it from going to Ohio.


Why?

1. Driver knows what the train has for cargo and doesn't want it in the secure facilities in Ohio
2. Driver thinks cargo is one thing, no idea it's something else, but doesn't want it getting to Ohio
3. Driver is some backwoods redneck with a death wish, playing chicken with a train and loses. Unwittingly unleashes shit storm.

The truck does appear to be deliberately going to the train, but suicide in and of itself doesn't strike me as reasonable. Presumably, it's a civilian in the truck, a civilian who probably is aware of the cargo.

If the cargo is known alien, civilian in truck could've wanted to prevent USG from getting it, and USG is probably the antagonist, as usual.


Collision happens. Crap goes everywhere, massive damage.

Driver either bailed out of the truck before it hit the train or didn't make it.

Something huge and alive is disturbed and wants out the boxcar. Could be more than one thing in the boxcar...because the wheel spins while something is banging it from the inside.

If it's one thing, it's smart enough to know how to open the door, but pissed enough it's also willing to ram the walls. The dual use here tosses me. One creature with multiple arms, great strength, pulled between rational opening of door and rageful banging.

Then there is the camera with the broken lens flashing the mystery letters. It also gives us the face of a dark haired child, and then a couple frames that look like melted film and/or foam stuff on a glass pane, window, etc. Some of the lines look almost like the backrest of a seat.

The camera's lens is busted, there's the face...there's been a bad collision.

Solving the website url brings up the remote access to an antiquated system that takes forever to download files (yay dial up!)...when it does, it provides:

1. message that someone wants someone to stop posting publicly, they can answer questions, they have proof.
2. 2 newspaper sheets that at face value offer a focus on popcicles, spaceguys, etc. with puzzle and mailing info to send in, but that are marked with a hidden code that resolves to, via three columns:

col1: No certainty if a live
col2: may be after us
col3: we go underground

Since they could've found words in asymmetrical columns to say this or more, I use the columns to divide the message into 3 separate statements. The sender isn't sure if whoever is alive - or that whoever is after them isn't sure the sender is alive, so is in pursuit. The sender thinks someone may be after them, and therefore it's time to go underground.

There are also more than just the message sender involved (we, us).

The individual behind the cryptic website has provided a hint that they can answer questions with proof, and then offers up the newspaper sheets with the hidden message. Mystery person provides an outdated paper; one page is about the rocketman, the other is Kennedy's address which is where the hidden message is found.

Whoever has the camera sends the cryptic messages, has access to that operating system in order to do so, and uses dated newspaper sheets to send message; Kennedy is relevant, and rocketpops are relevant to a point. Since the mystery person didn't likely have any pull to the editing of that paper's issue, they chose this specific paper for a reason, rocketpops.


We send the coupon...we wait.


Seems to me there's someone, more than just one person we need to be finding - the person who had the camera, the one with access to these files...this OS, etc. there should be some other clues to be had.


If they sent these papers specifically for us to send the coupon, then it seems to me that one, more, or all of us who sent stuff in will get something back that will lead us to the ones who can help us, the ones with proof...OR...we find another way in to find the mystery helper and the paper info is a warning to NOT follow that course or the rocketpop angle would be the antagonist.

So far, all our ways in and moving forward have come from the scariest site. Why did A51 section get shut down? What is the cargo that was intercepted by collision? Who owns the camera? How can we find that person - the one likely behind sending us the messages - who is unlikely to be the rocketpop people?

[slinkydge]

we do know where the train was going? WP

[Headman]

Re: [SPEC] What I Think Is Happening In The Game

[SeekerX]

Re: [SPEC] What I Think Is Happening In The Game

[FilmEdge]

Adding a wild idea: does anyone else think the deliberate inclusion of the Kennedy speech article in the newspaper about the nuclear test ban treaty might point to something involving nuclear test fallout/mutation in the 'creature'?

It's certainly an old school sci-fi concept and we know Abrams isn't exactly against such genre tributes. Nevada is literally ground zero for nuke tests in the '50s and '60s, no stretch at all to have Area 51 and nuke test grounds linked.

Why pick that particular news clipping for the coded message, especially if it wasn't a "current" daily news story in the supposed 1979 timeframe? Perhaps the coder had been studying and compiling nuclear test history/data for some "project", and in a pre-internet era would have indeed collected newspaper hardcopies for their files? Embedding the message in that particular story may itself be a clue to us, and a telling context to whomever was supposed to read it without being obviously literal. The medium is also the message, as it were.

Admittedly a long shot, but food for thought.

[comadarkvale]

[The Barmaid]

Yep Film, that's what's got me intrigued. Of all the newspapers in the world ever published, what's so special about this one? I do think the Kennedy speech is more relevant to this.

Kennedy speech, full spread - test bans/nukes; hidden message someone's gone underground

Poprockets & rocketman ad - astronaut recruitment ad, features link to real guy involved in UFO story

Crosswalk - J. Smith, kids nearly getting run over

Cabinet Planter - pest free indoor gardening with altered light


For me, I think the driver wanted to intercept the train but possibly not necessarily to save any cargo...maybe the whole idea was destruction, only thing or thing in the box got loose. Too early, sure, but a crazy local wanting to stop the government wouldn't be out of the question - the precursor to the teabaggers.

To the ones with the expertise on the scariest site, is there any command we could try to perhaps lead to the mystery sender him/herself? A way to get email?

What about a generic thing - most of them have admin at domain? Webmaster? Something? What about locations? Or phone numbers.

No clues from WHOIS? WE got Albert Pike and a few other leads from WHOIS on the Cloverfield game.



We're familiar with Abrams enough to know he didn't toss out some little useless thing that leads nowhere. Spielberg either. I just think with their M.O., they gave us another way "in" - not just relying on the ad, which could be a herring.

Why not make contact with Coop himself? He's been mentioned in this paper - that's either a real paper or fabricated one. Maybe he's been brought on board as a legit character?

ETA: nevermind, didn't know he was dead...mybad