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[ANALYSIS] HD trailer 1
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SeekerX
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FilmEdge wrote:
The 1080p downloadable trailer from Apple has only 2 audio channels.


Guess the same. I checked my .mov with VLC media player and only had two channels to choose from. What do you base your statement on, FilmEdge?

Edit: Just cross-checked in VLC with a regular DolbyDigital5.1-DVD. With the DVD I could choose "5.1", with the .mov I only could choose "Dolby Surround" which is kind of weird because the last time I checked I had no surround option at all. Anyway, seems to be pointing to that AC3/AAC-difference. But, like I said, I don't really understand that technology anymore. The "old" Dolby Surround used to encode the rear (and center) speakers within the phase of the stereo signal, hence only two tracks, left+right. I don't have experience in decoding that, though. Just thought I'd bring it to you all to experiment. The above mentioned article actually holds some info on exactly these issues.

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 		I based it on viewing Movie Inspector in QT Player which states the 1080p download video file has 2 channels, as Euchre alluded to.

As you say, decoders or hardware may attempt to split off these channels into surround mode during playback just for effect, but I doubt anyone can split 5.1 separate, distinct channels out of a file with only 2 channels. But don't stop trying on my account... I claim no expertise in audio technology! Smile

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nooneimportant77 wrote:
Face looks like a face.


or an explosion.





I keep coming back to this pole and the numbers on it.
Just seems like we have to look for what these mean.
Its gotta be deliberate since the only way to read these numbers from a train is if the pole was mounted horizontally across the tracks.. but looking at the pics, it seems to be knocked over like it was originally standing up vertically.. so if it was in a stick-in-the-ground position, the numbers would be sideways and unreadable.. anyway, who would paint them sideways in the first place..
Gotta be more to these numbers...

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Melodyman wrote:
nooneimportant77 wrote:
Face looks like a face.


or an explosion.





I keep coming back to this pole and the numbers on it.
Just seems like we have to look for what these mean.
Its gotta be deliberate since the only way to read these numbers from a train is if the pole was mounted horizontally across the tracks.. but looking at the pics, it seems to be knocked over like it was originally standing up vertically.. so if it was in a stick-in-the-ground position, the numbers would be sideways and unreadable.. anyway, who would paint them sideways in the first place..
Gotta be more to these numbers...
is it a math equation? i cant make it out fully it does look painted on it looks digital to me so what could these mean can anyone make it out fully? i agree with u its got to b something
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nooneimportant77 wrote:
Face looks like a face.


or an explosion.





The more I look at it I too think it is written from top to bottom. When you look at it that way the symbols appear more like letters to me. Makes sense if your trying to write on a thin vertical item like a pole or beam. I just cannot make all the letters out. The last (bottom) 2 look like "r f". It's so hard to tell but when looked at it that way it kinda looks like:

P
_
t
v
s
r
f

or

10
-
t
u
s
r
f

just throwing it out there.

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 		Oh yeah, and another tidbit..........the first thing on the pole that looks like a large bold i is the universal symbol for Information. And while I am tired and grabbing for straws, the message on the PDP-11 told us "I can answer your questions. I have proof." There is a giant i written on an I beam! Again, just throwing ideas out there........I will go to bed now before I hurt myself.

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 		Train Model
Hi guys. I just recently became a part of this Super 8 craze. I read through most of major threads here but if this has already been posted please feel let me know. =)

Anywho.

I was quite interested in what model of locomotive was featured in the teaser trailer. At first glance I thought it was the EMD GP-XX series. Upon further investigation I discovered that the front of the locomotive is actually the front and not the back, as seen in this picture: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1399951 You can tell this because the front is flat and has some sort of vent for the engine.

I used VLC media player to slow down the trailer to a speed at which I could examine the train. At the point where the camera is along side the train as it is derailing, you can clearly see that the axles on the locomotive mentioned above and the axles on the locomotive in the trailer are identical. Also, the slanted stripes on the side are remarkably similar.

The specific locomotive I linked to was discontinued from the USAF service in 1974. According to the link, the Air Force bought 27 of these, however this is the only Baldwin VO-1000 that is listed on that website and it did not operate near Area 51 or Ohio.

Just thought I would share this tidbit and maybe someone can find photos of the locomotives that operated/operate at Area 51. =)

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nooneimportant77 wrote:





Headman wrote:

The more I look at it I too think it is written from top to bottom. When you look at it that way the symbols appear more like letters to me. Makes sense if your trying to write on a thin vertical item like a pole or beam. I just cannot make all the letters out. The last (bottom) 2 look like "r f". It's so hard to tell but when looked at it that way it kinda looks like:

P
_
t
v
s
r
f

or

10
-
t
u
s
r
f

just throwing it out there.


That's an interesting way of looking at it. Still, I'm not convinced.

For me, the "2" looks too much like a two, the 1, 7, 0, 4, etc. They look like numbers to me. But, who knows...

Regardless, I concur that these numbers/letters must be the next step, or at least an important clue. They just seem so conspicuously there, meant for us to find and interpret... but what do we do with them?


So, here's what I make of it:

What everybody's been referring to as a + I see as a 7 (in the style of having a line through the base of it).

Therefore, to me, the message looks like "i 21 7 70.44".

Seven digits. Maybe a phone number? 217-7044? But then, what's the area code?

However, maybe the larger 7 really is a plus sign, making it 21+70.44, which equals 91.44. So what do we do with that number?

I think someone mentioned already that maybe it's an IP address. If that's the case, where do we put the dots? It would have to be something like 21.7.70.44? Or, 217.7.0.44?


(A Few Minutes Later)

Okay, it's very late. Maybe this is nothing and/or just a coincidence. Also, trout me as necessary. However I just did an IP look-up on 21.7.70.44. See for yourself (under IP owner info) http://ip-lookup.net/?21.7.70.44

Quote:
OrgName: DoD Network Information Center
OrgID: DNIC
Address: 3990 E. Broad Street
City: Columbus
StateProv: OH
PostalCode: 43218
Country: US


DoD Network Information Center? As in Department of Defense? And, it's in Columbus, Ohio. Didn't we say the train wreck happens in Ohio?

Still though, it says it was registered in 1991. The other IG sites were registered with hosts like "GoDaddy". I don't think the producers are so well connected as to be able to use military IP addresses. Somehow I think this is OOG.

Trying to connect doesn't work. Ping says it's private or behind a firewall.


So let's try 217.7.0.44...


(A Few Minutes Later)

Quote:
OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre
OrgID: RIPE
Address: P.O. Box 10096
City: Amsterdam
StateProv:
PostalCode: 1001EB
Country: NL


Once again an inaccessible address.

Quite the mystery...

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 		the two channels, L+R
Just wanted to post the separate two channels so this wasn't useless after all:
Left channel: http://www.filefront.com/16605879/super8-tlr1_h1080p_lf.wav
Right channel: http://www.filefront.com/16605957/super8-tlr1_h1080p_rt.wav
(16 bit .wav, 44.1 khz, stereo each, used Audacity which only exports stereo .wavs).
To process them:
For 32 bit OSs I would recommend "Sound Forge", if you can get it and/or the "Wavelab Demo". For 64 bit I actually didn't search that much but "Audacity" works on the platform.
Windows that is. Mac, no idea.

Whoa, just noticed.... with "if you can get it" I did not mean to induce any piracy here. You can get a free demo version of it, or a full version with most features for about 40 Euros. Yet, it is pretty cool to edit simple stereo or mono tracks.

Edit: registry for EU citizens with the Sound Forge Demo seems ridiculous. Sorry, didn't know that. Go with another product. Well done, Sony.

Edit2: "Wavepad" seems to come in handy, works on 64bit. Experimenting with it as of now (05.31.2010). Nothing special though. Except the aforementioned strange sirene/sweep during the transmission. Might be just audio-fx.

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 		The 'I' beam has been mentioned earlier in the topic, seems the consensus was it read as "I -+ 21 70.64". Some went hunting to find that the most likely candidate was where that position was, kinda like a mile marker on a highway

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 		Yeah it's a railroad milepost. They are found all along railways everywhere. Specifically, they are commonly found at railroad crossings so that if there is a problem with the RR Xing signal, the conductor can pinpoint exactly the problem and report it to the DoT.

Several have analyzed the milepost and the consensus is that the numbers are 21 + 70.64 (some think that it is i 21 + 70.64). This can be interpreted as 70.64 feet from milepost #21.

My interest in this particular puzzle has be renewed and so I did some more searching. Some of it reinforces my previous speculation of the location of the indecent. I'll go ahead and post in the Where is the Railway? thread

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vapor wrote:
Yeah it's a railroad milepost. They are found all along railways everywhere. Specifically, they are commonly found at railroad crossings so that if there is a problem with the RR Xing signal, the conductor can pinpoint exactly the problem and report it to the DoT.

Several have analyzed the milepost and the consensus is that the numbers are 21 + 70.64 (some think that it is i 21 + 70.64). This can be interpreted as 70.64 feet from milepost #21.

My interest in this particular puzzle has be renewed and so I did some more searching. Some of it reinforces my previous speculation of the location of the indecent. I'll go ahead and post in the Where is the Railway? thread


Wouldn't it be overkill to use an I beam for a railway mile marker? I think the I beam was either cargo on the train or part of the train itself unless the crash took out a building we didn't see.

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Headman wrote:
vapor wrote:
Yeah it's a railroad milepost. They are found all along railways everywhere. Specifically, they are commonly found at railroad crossings so that if there is a problem with the RR Xing signal, the conductor can pinpoint exactly the problem and report it to the DoT.

Several have analyzed the milepost and the consensus is that the numbers are 21 + 70.64 (some think that it is i 21 + 70.64). This can be interpreted as 70.64 feet from milepost #21.

My interest in this particular puzzle has be renewed and so I did some more searching. Some of it reinforces my previous speculation of the location of the indecent. I'll go ahead and post in the Where is the Railway? thread


Wouldn't it be overkill to use an I beam for a railway mile marker? I think the I beam was either cargo on the train or part of the train itself unless the crash took out a building we didn't see.


I believe it's a wooden utility pole, not an steel I-beam.

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The Barmaid wrote:
I know yall are on the audio kick atm, but regarding the alien, this just popped into my head...

If the aliens are the grays, there's always a possibility that the captive cargo used its well known telekenetic abilities to control the truck, perhaps against the will of the driver, or control the driver to cause the crash ;-p


Just sayin! Never know. Them grays got skillz.


or one of his mates braking him out... I'm also assuming there's to be an element of some long running feud between said Aliens and Earth.

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